>> no. >> ambassador volker, you testified during your deposition that aid in fact gets held up from time to time for a whole assortment of reasons, is that your understanding? >> that is true. >> sometimes the holdups are rooted in something at omb, sometimes it is the defense department, sometimes it is at the state department, sometimes it is on the hill, correct? >> that is correct. >> so when it was held up her 55 days for the ukraine, that did not in it of itself strike you as uncommon? >> no, it is something that had happened in my career in the past. i'd seen holdups as assistance. i just assumed it was a part of the decision-making process. if somebody had an objection and we had to overcome it. >> in fact, there were concerns that perhaps president zelensky was not going to be the reformer
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