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where there were hostages x. at this point they had to look to slow it down and got negotiators involved and started negotiating with this guy because they knew if they went in there prior to that, there was 11 hostages, as i recall. there would have been -- >> yeah. -- they might have been taken out. the officers might have as well. but those innocent victims would probably also have been victims of police bullets. so they know that at this point right now it's talking through this incident. while he's talking he's not shooting, if he has a gun, and that's the approach right now. and how that will change is if he decided to change that. >> yeah. >> at which time the miswill go in. police will go in. >> jack cambria, i want to thank you for your time and your insight. obviously, we're going to continue this coverage of the hostage situation in that synagogue. next we're going to talk to a reporter who is at the scene right now, his firsthand account

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