>> he's dead. well. >> harris: what are the he's dead as a doornail. objectives in terms of those reportedly, behind the scenes of he didn't die bravely, either. isis, because they were putting oilfields, for example? is this a long-term commitment? i will tell you that. people into place in their how will we know that protecting hierarchy. he should have been killed year the u.s. and forces will hunt them, the mission is over? the leadership. ago. that other president should have who backs up al-baghdadi at this >> they were there and supposed gotten them. point? what do we know about the backup to be there for a few days. they were there for ten years, but to me, it was very important. plan? as we now know. i would say, all the time, they the president ran on a platform would walk into my office. >> there are always leaders ready to step in, especially of putting people back out of these endless wars. "sir, we killed this leader at a low level." with an organization like isis. but he also understands the i said, "i've never heard of during the first eight to ten importance of making sure these oilfields are secure. months of the fight in 2014, them. i want al-baghdadi. putting people in the proper that's the only one i know now. 2015, 40 of the top 50 isis i want al-baghdadi, get in." places. leaders were killed. and they got in. to create vacuums for people, to >> harris: meanwhile, they are saying al-baghdadi's death shows come out of the woodwork and a need for the u.s. to maintain create isis, for example, this a presence in syria to fight president will not do the same isis. thing. however, he does want to >> our options in the region are ultimately bring all of our becoming fewer and fewer, as we isis has a way of regenerating their leaders. but it will be very difficult now. they will have somebody in charge, but their organization soldiers home. have fewer and fewer places from is in tatters. that is his goal and he will do but they are still, again, that as prudently as can be which to launch these operation dangerous as a terrorist organization. >> harris: major general, how done. >> harris: the major operations. general who was just on with me frankly, the loss of the are they able to metastasize in moments ago, i don't know if you more than 14 countries? can hear him, but he let the northeastern third of syria at can they do it again? exactly the moment when isis will make its probably strongest >> they can do it again. forces in 202014. effort to try and reform, i the way they've been able to do the initial commander on the it as they've been able to find ground inside iraq, against
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