it would be an odd call. perhaps a weird area code windows would be meaningful. and then they would talk about it subject that may have not have been what we were talking about. then the next hour we would get a different voice or different gender and different phone number but they would say the same thing, the same phrases in the same boarding on the same subject. the next hour we'd get another one and we called them seminar callers. we had no idea that this was going to be the beginning of a quarter century of election manipulation by the clintons. but i guess it's no surprise looking back that bill and hillary and at the dnc and democrat party have been up to this for a long time trying to mess with people's heads when it comes to elections. >> harris: it so seminar callers, why that? >> i called them seminar callers because it looked as though you took somebody -- and this was
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