that consolation around the president at the time. when i'm interrupted these days, i actually just remind people that if their argument is really good it's worth waiting for ungetterred because if you begin talking when i am talking, i'm going to finish. >> yes. >> so no one will hear either one of us. >> yes. >> so if your argument's really good, waits until i'm done it's draw. i remember you and i siting here on the couch and i said oh, my gosh i just got an alert, justice thomas just asked questions in oral arguments he never had done so before. i wonder if it's this new system, the last one was chaotic and now he feels i'm going to get my voice out there because i won't we interrupted. >> it can happen to everywhere. i think dagen raises a good point. i think an apology comes more often from women. >> that's typically in society that we are really quick to say, oh, sorry or excuse me and be differential in that way. i appreciate the reminder that we need to own our space. every human should own their space and interrupting is always about the interrupter. the speaker, it's about their