if talking to anybody who's trying to manage the immigration system, it is so frustrating to them how unclear all of the rules are, what a mess it is, how they are constantly being told one thing and that another thing happens, to watch congress squabble over this and blame each other while they continue to not fix it is very frustrating. if >> steve: has been broken for decades and just as with the previous discussion over what's been going on overseas, he is trying to fix it in a pragmatic way. just a couple of things on this. first of all, it's a perfect example of what we were talking about earlier, the point you made in response to ridiculous julian castro about the president's negotiating abilities. as a direct result of the president negotiating. he said i'm going to put tariffs on unless you start doing something serious about immigration, everybody totally freaked out. he did it and it totally worked,
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