overreacting because they felt the rug was pulled out from underneath them. they were listening to the white house, the progressives, and they believed it was inevitable and suddenly they are also saying wait, what, so i think that's another reason you've seen this harsher treatment of joe manchin because of the progressives in the white house that made it seem like the bill was inevitable. howard: that's a great point because i was constantly saying that they would say it will pass by christmas, by next year, but no, it doesn't necessarily have to pass and what i don't see as much of, emily is commentators and journalists saying it was pretty major political miscalculation by the vented or senator-- veteran senator now president pushing for the three naturally and dollar bill with earlier emergency spending without knowing if they were close to getting joe manchin on board knowing full well you need every democratic votes. >> absolutely. i think that's the headline because joe biden promised the
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