concern about this even when they're saying he's not, and the more there's a will he run or won't he run, that prevents a new face from saying, hey, this will be our next candidate. especially because kamala harris is the most unpopular vice president in recent history, even less popular than mike pence. he made that point as well. you know, obviously, this is not the kind of speculation you normally have when you have an incumbent president in his first term. you normally don't have that. so it's going to be different. and whether that's a distraction that's bad or, you know, would be worse as a lame duck, that's up for debate. howard: that's not going to be happen. but what does it say about the media view of the president that there is all of this skepticism just 11 months into his term? >> and we wonder why the approval ratings aren't good -- [laughter] when legislation's being passed that a majority of the american people favor. and this is why. this speculation is completely wrong. joe biden, unless there is

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