same experiences we have had. but they are doing it anyway. they know this is going to set things on fire even more. how do you explain -- is it just the theory that they are invested i this idea that they want to have an accomplishment and that theyr are just as connected with the real impact of their action. >> the only explanation i can come up with is that they are out of touch with the reality of the lives of the american people across the country and are more interested in getting the political win, the political victory that may lead to more power, more money, or whatever it is rather than actually looking at hey, people are in p we are in a position of responsibility to do something about that, help work to make their lives better. and it got to be able to come together and work together in order to do th that is exactly what we need right now from our leaders as a and unfortunately we are just not seen at. >> tammy: it's

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