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i've been trying for years and also i do find her extremely annoying. it has nothing to do with her being trans everything to do with the fact she behaves as if a show tune sing along were a person. [laughter]. >> it's the over enthusiasm, the fake enthusiasm >> kat: it's so annoying. >> it reminds me of the she was, let's say she was a biological women, because i know men like this, too, who are over happy and you know a minute before they got there they stuffed their head the bathtub and were screaming, you know? she kind of reminds me of that. it's like fake, it's too happy >> kat: i don't know about the bathtub thing. but it does make me a little uncomfortable because people -- i'm not going to be able to match that energy and that doesn't make me a jerkment you have so many notches.

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