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now? >> i think if you're talking to a military analyst they would say absolutely. i think a lot of people who have watch this closely are aware that russia is not throwing its hole might into it. if you talk to ordinary ukrainians, i think they are terrorized. i think they are absolutely out of their minds with fear with what's going on. you saw the scenes of the train station. they are putting together emergency trains to get people out and guards had to fire into the air because people were packing to the trains to get out. so yes russia is holding back some of its main forces, not throwing everything at it. they are rumbling buildings. but 200 missiles is enough to terrorize the population. small arms fire is enough to keep people in their house so yeah, they are scared. >> bret: it's more about you guys, "washington post" reporter says our hotel just ordered us back into the bunker. the kitchen staff whose families are sheltered with us including grandmothers and children served

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