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times, i didn't watch any of that garbage either. i'm selective and i only watch tv that i consider to be a work of art, the creme de la creme. now, if you'll excuse me. >> he has that effect. why -- why -- okay. there's two instincts here. there's the person that has to have you watch these series. you mean, you haven't watched the queen's gamut -- or the king's gamut. i watch it, it's terrible. what does it matter. then the other thing is why do we lie? >> because we don't like the person who's asking us. we say i saw it, it sucks. then we move on. so, for you and me, it's a little different. we're select movie critics of the highest order. >> that is true. >> we discuss just everything.

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