beyond ours? what is bob wolf's solution and prescription to try and get us back up to where we should be. >> well, i don't think we're going to be able to catch up that quickly. the first thing i would do is pass the bipartisan infrastructure bill, that's $1.2 trillion. that should be passed immediately. that's the physical part of infrastructure, but it includes, you know, getting wi-fi and computer capability to rural areas, it includes an increase in -- capability, it looks at next generation gps, it looks at the whole electric watery discussion -- battery discussion that we all should be having as we move to a more climate-resilient type of environment. you know, what i was saying back then are the same things we're saying today, but back then it was a couple trillion in needs, today it's four trillion. it doesn't get better. and i remember that governor rendell once said you'd hate to see a sign don't go over that

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