mitchell had polio as young children and i think that in the 1990s joni mitchell how to post polio syndrome. i think they are focused on vaccines here. even if they're not using the word. i think they are vaccine zealots. they are passionate about vaccines because they didn't have the polio vaccines when they got polio and they have suffered a lifetime for it and they are allergic to the words of peter mccullough and malone. he started with mrna technology we didn't really work on the vaccines. they are saying that the vaccines don't work but there is a lot of evidence that they decrease severity and a lot of evidence that they decrease spread to some extent. so i think that's where this is coming from. here's my final point. they have a right to remove their music. he has a right at the podcast there. he has a right to have whatever guest on he wants, period. all of this stirring around as anti-american. >> shannon: many of the