are we closer than ever to a bigger war? >> we've been in a broader regional war for a long time. october 7th just underscored the point. the biden administration by attempting to restart the iran nuclear deal, take sanctions i think ignore the fact that this war has been going on. some call it a shadow war, others call it a twilight war. iran's attempt to destabilize israel by using proxies in lebanon, syria, iraq, yemen, this is not new. this has been a wider war for a long time. if you just think about this year, the fact that the houthi's have attempted drone and rent -- drone a missile strikes against iran. what they have succeeded is that the wider conflict of disrupting global trade in the red sea. >> trace: that's what