send to ukraine. only half of those are operable right now. it would be impossible to close the airspace with those mig jets and that kind of thing could be seen and would be seen as an act of war by vladimir putin. and the risk of him right now possibly going nuclear is an enormous risk. it's a serious and grave risk that our military commanders and leadership and white house i know are considering and should be considering the consequences of that sort of thing. >> carley: you may say only half of those is operable. >> half. >> carley: car poland was goino offer ukraine broken planes. >> we have a sur masses plus. we have a surplus if poland wants better jets. i think that's a good idea. to deliver them, take them 1,00o ramstein and send them into ukraine doesn't make a whole lot of sense from a military standpoint as opposed to going straight into ukraine. if ukraine gets a dozen or two