information urge. brian: this is what the president was referring. to say know he what the conversation was about. i think there was no pressure. this conversation was long. it was friendly. it touched on many questions, sometimes requiring serious answers. they are concerned because ukrainians need our money so much and support so much they don't want to get involved in american politics. >> right. brian: they are front and center. big story with ukraine is president obama let them get caught up with the russians and gave them blankets and mres and this president gave them lethal weapons to defend themselves. >> no one was concerned about russia until after hillary clinton lost the election. of the republicans on the house intelligence committee and in the house were pressuring the obama administration, hey, here is money. get weapons to the ukrainians they didn't care about russia until after the election. then all of a sudden raush was the biggest problem on the face of the planet. i think what this ultimately
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