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that he didn't mention by name but is he polling at 2%. steve: i don't think joe biden is the nominee, i don't think cory booker is probably going to be his vice president. cory booker also in iowa yesterday said every election since before carter never had anybody leading this far in the polls went onto the president of the united states. so, in other words, joe biden, according to cory booker's metric will not be president of the united states. he might be the safe choice but he is not going to win according to him. brian: joe concha weighed in the safe choice traditionally isn't really the choice. >> the safe choice never wins. let's just look back the last couple presidential elections, hillary clinton safe choice, 2016, lost. mitt romney safe choice, 2012, lost. john kerry in '04 lost. gore 2,000 lost. bob dole 1996 lost. all chosen by the establishment. all the safe choice and the best chance to beat the

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