>> the 13 heroes we lost, the state department spokesperson said the most important metric was the number of people we airlifted. jake sullivan -- that is something different. >> it's not different. >> what the most concerning to me is 20 years ago we pushed the taliban out, 20 years later they know what we do, how we do it and how to accomplish it. we own the night and we own the air and we've given them the upper hand and that is devastating for the next generation we have to fight them somewhere, maybe not afghanistan but islamic terror -- we are the ultimate enemy, the reason they can't accomplish their mission and that won't change. we are the horizon and they will hate us as much. >> jennifer griffin asked john
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