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considering question 2 on the ballot that would replace the police department with a new public safety department which is different. they would not send cops out when there are emergencies per se every time. and in austin, texas, proposition a would hire more cops. currently they have got 1.6 cops per thousand residents. they would up that to two cops per thousand. so, in other words, after the big move last year to defund, now essentially they are talking about refunding. >> they are trying to see -- do you know what? they have tried to refund all these police departments but minneapolis hold out. minneapolis wants to change the whole concept. let me be clear. they were forced. democratic cities were forced to refund the police. it is political suicide if they come out, steve. have you heard any of these democratic leaders say i want more police officers? i want more, more, more money for police? they can't say it because it's

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