saying. neil: you hear it won't be anything like the heights of the pandemic when everyone was sheltering in their homes. do you think they're right on that? do you think we will avoid revisiting the worst of the pandemic? >> well, i sure hope so, and i think the things we've learned are that the young, healthy people especially given this new omicron variant is less dangerous, you know, the young, healthy people are really not at risk or dying, so we need to protect the people who are vulnerable, the elderly, the people who are immunocompromised, people with cancer, those sorts of things. and the rest of the world, we should go about our business and live our lives. catching covid is awful and terrible, but it's not the end of the world. and i think people need to put this in interprotective. i tell -- into perspective. i tell people this all the time, the most dangerous thing you're ever going to do, people say, i don't know, skydiving or something.