something that is very unfortunate in the revelation of this. that is lots of criticism by both of these leaders, angela merkel by name, emmanuel macron by name, these are conversations -- neil: that is collateral damage. always good having you. thanks for coming in on a saturday. the president is defending that communication with all foreign leaders and asking if there are spies in the white house. mark meredith is in the white house this morning. >> reporter: donald trump continues to claim nothing improper happened when he had that call in july but the president is also making it clear he's not thrilled the conversation, details of those conversations were shared between government intelligence employees.