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the most reliable source is your local doctor. get your source of information from a medical professional that you trust and that's what we urge people to do. >> dana: as you mentioned the hospitalizations in arkansas saw the biggest increase yesterday since march of 2020. has the confusion from the cdc, they are being roundly criticized from all sides. has that frustrated your efforts in arkansas? >> well sure. there has been some inconsistency and that's been challenging because people point to the cdc and they look at that as big government now versus a ted messenger and that's a problem. now to cdc's credit, whenever you had that breakthrough -- those breakthrough cases in providence, massachusetts, they reported that and they did the study. they have been transparent on the data. whenever people have questions

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