just make things worse. and the american people don't believe that. and unless you have the i.q. of a garden pest, you know you cannot order a civilized society based on that worldview. and that's the problem that we have. >> dana: senator, as you said it's a complex issue and i don't have a loved one in my life that has one of these addictions and the just say no campaign and the fried egg as your brain really worked on me. and i wonder, though, if we look at this and health and human services says they have the harm reduction plan. they want to expand use of fentanyl testing scrip and syringe program. maybe that helps. widen access to reversal treatments and stop overdose campaign which is a public service announcement. we had a story that said 100,000 people died of overdoses last year and i

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