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far? >> a couple things. one is i don't see a tie to the money, the funding, the aid. specifically. and i don't see eight times joe biden being mentioned. i count three. so some of the early reporting may have been something different. i do see that democrats will jump on it because he mentions joe biden and hunter biden and the investigations. but to the president's point, you don't see a direct quid pro quo in the language tying this to that. i also think that the ukrainian president appears to acknowledge that he wants to go into these investigations and our reporting is that he may, in fact, say something about that today that they are going to continue these investigations that were dropped after that prosecutor -- >> sandra: they will be meeting

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