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washington. there's going to be a huge learning curve for anybody else. bill: have you met most of them? >> i've met all of them. i'm with faith and freedom coalition. we've had candidate forums all over the state. bill: did you ever waver from trump? >> initially, i flirted with desantis and ramaswamy, but my big question on trump originally was how is he going to flip pennsylvania, michigan, wisconsin, and thankfully joe biden's taken care of that for ugh. dana: we'll have a lot more to talk about when it comes to the general. whitney, you are leaning firmly desantis, and tell us why. >> i am not leaning desantis, i am desantis. [laughter] you know, governor desantis is the most proven candidate right now that we have. i trust what we says. he says what he's going to do, and he's the only candidate with a backbone who is willing to be up front and be honest with his people. dana: what's the number win issue for you? >> life. i am a -- i used to say i was

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