matter. she said the president has not spoken with the attorney general about having ukraine investigate anything relating to former vice president biden or his son. so that's a pretty clear statement there. you have this in usa today. quote, make no mistake, these facts now implicate the attorney general, the nation's chief law enforcement officer directly in the commission of acts that many of our country's leading legal experts consider federal crimes. whether as election law violations, bribery or other offenses concerning public corruption. the revelation of the possible involvement should alarm all of us concerned with the rule of law in this country. at a minimum, it's no longer sustainable for the attorney general to oversee the handling of the ukraine scandal. how do the facts implicate the attorney general if the doj says he wasn't involved. >> i think the real challenge as you point out, eric, correctly, is this question of what did the ag do and when, what was the involvement with