relate peers. but we are still having a problem in rural areas especially. and that has not been solved. that has to be solved not only on a door to door basis but on an ideological basis. >> john: obviously, dr. siegel, the primary concern is public health. but is there a political one as well? don't forget president biden said he wanted to see the nation open up again by independence holiday. but you have to get to 70% vaccination rate unable to be able to do that. and seven or eight points away from that with one month to go. >> i don't like the stick here. i don't like the stick when he started to turn to those not vaccinated. or think you have to get there by convincing people it is the right thing to do. to be more afraid of the virus then afraid of this vaccine, which i agree with the president and every public health official. this is an incredibly safe, effective vaccine. the carrot dangling on the stick. the other thing that is never
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