And theyre the losers because they wanted to buy and icy. Cme group down 2. 5 . The deal works out to 33 a share, a dirty premium. You have them all Electronic Exchange just 12 years old based in atlanta with the size and scale of commodity futures like Brent Crude Oil plus Interest Rate derivatives is huge and you combine it with the parent of the Oldest Exchange in the u. S. 200 years of independence. Charlie gasparino taking us through the day. When you got the first call yesterday and broke the story, what did you hear . Charlie the journal had a first headline, i heard something about this. I do not confirm the first interview but they had headlines of the merger. I was hearing it was a full out acquisition, the New York Stock Exchange getting bought by the Intercontinental Exchange and that blew me away. It is an amazing story. We fight for seconds here. Going on the air, basically saying at the New York Stock Exchange about the taken over, this is not a merger of equalss, this is a takeover of the most venerable, one of the most venerable institutions in american finance, the New York Stock Exchange. It is been there since the old button agreement. [talking over each other] charlie that is why they call it they became essentially a club of freighters under that and expanded to much bigger than a tree, beautiful headquarters, but here is the thing. When i started to digest it it was a phenomenal story. The Intercontinental Exchange was created only 12 years ago by jeff springer, a longtime executive in the energy industry. People dont realize energy is a commodity, commodities are traded in exchanges locking in costs. He came up with a system to forget about the pits of chicago where people icecream at each other or new york, the new york mercantile exchange, lets do electronically and he created this thing, the Intercontinental Exchange and what is great about this is it is something to be said for the Stock Exchange remaining independent but they are now part of an American Company and an american entrepreneur created 10 billion of wealth, that is what the market cap was before the deal and when you buy something your stock usually goes down a little bit, created 10 billion worth of wealth of market cap in ten years, something to be proud of and buying the Stock Exchange. Not selling for the germans. [talking over each other] regulators time it. Charlie regulators in europe, eyes and nasdaq attempt over the Stock Exchange on antitrust grounds, your company is in one place. I dont think theyre going to do that. [talking over each other] tracy attempting that. Charlie this is a perfect fit, not much overlap. They will sell some stuff, but i think this is a perfect fit. Duncan neiderauer had no choice. We should have a chart on Trading Volumes and this tells the story. Since 2008 it has gone downhill except for a couple blips. [talking over each other] charlie that shows you where it is going. In 2009 was pretty high, talking about less than half in a few years so they needed to do the deal and liz floor traders you were the one reporter who asked about that. These guys wondered, an Electronic Exchange charlie that is a pretty big story and other places dont cover that, they are not doing their viewers any good because what is it that this new Business Model has to offer over the nasdaq. There are people. O cf1 o that is the selling point. If you had a flash crash, stepped in between and rationally figure stuff out. The electronic trading for most of his career, when he came to the Stock Exchange. They both have appreciation for what the floor is. And you need something before i know, the floor traders tomorrow, theres a Business Model reason, that is what they told me. Liz that is important. The machines go crazy. Charlie to get carried duffy or bob greifeld. Liz schedule did not permit it, a good effort. Charlie bob greifeld said the same thing. I dont blame him for not wanting to go out, competitive, small player, competitive issues they have to do something to deal with this, all publicly traded companies. We should take a look. Liz it is up 2 . Charlie people see them as a takeover target. What is cme doing . Liz it was down. The only exchange that was down. Here is nasdaq. Liz charlie people think they might be the buyer of nasdaq. People think cme this is what is out there is going to buy the nasdaq that is what is going on in the markets and why cme is down and nasdaq is up. I have been out there asking people is there any talk about this . I cant get a good read on it but that is down 2 . There is Competitive Pressure with this deal, people are saying the cme will buy nasdaq, acquire stock goes down, the person that is being acquired, that stock goes up because people buy your shares. That is what we get. Of market is saying theres a deal, cme nasdaq. [talking over each other] liz we will be watching. Great job, charlie. When did you get the call yesterday . Charlie i am not getting into that. I dont reveal sources. Liz all the emails, we were charlie we were on the air almost immediately. And we made the look bad. I know when i was there that would never happen. Never. We torched them. [talking over each other] charlie celebrated with a couple martinis. Liz thank you. In terms of the market charlie did well liz colleagues at the journal. In terms of markets we are bouncing around, 49 times we crossed the flat line for the dow jones industrials. That means the search for direction is on an folks trying to gauge what is happening in washington. Lets look where we stand with floor traders. Mark, your floor traders will stay according to the ceo of ice and the nyselisted the holliday, a lot of traders hoped technology would make strides and humans are still needed. We have a lot of reasons to be optimistic in 2013. The market has been acting well, resilience, decembers the best month for the s p up on average 1. 7 . We have seen good breakouts recently in materials and industrial and financial so the market plays well. It still looks like we should push hy into your end. Liz your calling for 1470. We only have a few trading days left and we are at 1442. This is where we are, 1442. A good move down in the u. S. Dollar. That should eventually act as support for commodities. You see negative correlation and my thinking is we should push higher and no reason for us to pull back at least in the short run. We have seen a little bit liz not even if theres no deal before the end of the year . Even though it has been no deal there still resilience even to stay positive. We have been dragging this ahead of a horse and investors actually have been buying protection which is interesting. Of vix has moved up 12 last couple days ahead of exploration. Liz want to let everybody know the house has voted on the socalled plan b, the procedural vote for plan b which was one speaker of the house john boehner put forward. We want to let everybody know where the markets are. We are 23 points. We will see if this has any move but it has passed. The president said he would veto it. Let me get to charlie in the cme pits, look. A floor trader is always happy to hear other floor traders are going to live but what went through your mind when you saw charlies interview . He said we need these guys. Humans of always mattered to versus electronic which we know can go haywire. I hope they make a better goal of the equity market than the futures markets because quite frankly i traded a lot of futures markets that are traded options in and it is hard to find settlement prices hours after the market closed. When you look at the liquidity of a lot of the stocks i think eyes hurt more than helped that situation. You saw a lot of liquidity dry up once they moved to the computers. There is something to be said for transparency but we will see what happens and how they trade the equities but it has not been such a great self the commodities. Liz look at any exchange, trading glitches or the flash crash. I am all for you guys. Let me get to the nymex comments. We are talking about gold, you got to show this at the moment. Gold again, this isnt just a blip of a move, once again we are dropping 19 and that is not even though low of the session. What is going on . Were seeing tremendous liquidation over the last three four days. We saw a lot of buying in the pits but fortunately the floor trading still exists. We are seeing a lot of buying a preemptive from 1750 down to 1700. I dont know that somebody is stopping themselves out of the long position or not but we are seeing a lot of liquidation. I think personally it could be because the bush tax cuts are ending and it makes sense for any fund or anybody whos long goal to has a lowcost base is to liquidate now and 3 initiate in the new year. I have a followup on that. Specifically what was and options trade on tuesday and rumored to be a chinese rolling position, they sold 75 calls, all those in effect, 675 calls, the scuttlebutt on the street is these are a hedge, that they are hedging along, futures position. Technically you came through the 200 Day Moving Average the same day you hit the ten Day Moving Average. We are down on major support, down on the 100 week moving average. Liz the fat tuesdays trade charlie talked about happen overnight and people said what is going on with gold . Absolutely right on that. Thanks for the color commentary. We love you guys, long live the floor traders. Closing bell ringing in 38 minutes. Dog eat dog world in the trading pits, especially for those exchanges, spreads in volume is down, water flow is not what it used to be. Thomas caldwell is chairman and ceo of coldwell securities. This term as millions of shares and at one point he was the largest shareholder, find out why he thinks the night she had to do this, we are also finding out whether he is concerned how this will integrate and analysts say the record has been sloppy. We have an coming up. I always wait until the last minute. Can i still ship a gift in time r christmas . Yeah, sure you can. Great. Wheres your gift . Uh. Whew. [ male announcer ] break from the holiday stress. Ship Fedex Express by december 22nd for christmas delivery. Liz carl icahn not having a lot of law, his plan to combine railroad operators took a detour. And you need to hear this, jeff flock at the cme watching in massive snowstorm develop and you first. Nicole lets talk about these rail cars and carl icahn, this is what is going on. Carl icahn trying to merge American Rail car. Theres American Rail car down 81 4 prison with larger rival green briar down 12 . A huge move for these two companies but as i noted now he has been forced to sweeten his proposal because now target has made a counteroffer so it is a backandforth who is going to win this one, it is not for sale. And this cash by 2, 22 a share. This is subject to the green byre shareholders approval. It is a backandforth, i am taking you out, this is like a poker game. In the meantime stocks are losing big time. Liz we have a lot of people picked that stock. Were watching that closely. Lets talk to jeff flock, huge midwestern storm. Do you see it yet . What is it going to prices . Raining like heck out there. Why do traders love a snowstorm . Look at the map . There is volatility in the markets. All through the midwest, a foot or more portions of the upper midwest and look at what that has done, if you bought naturalgas futures and getting beaten down last couple weeks you can pay off 3 for natural gas, not only is there going to be snow but a lot of coal heading for heating oil up 1 , so good news there as well. Here is the thing about the snow and precipitation. That is a drought mitigating. Huge selloff, corn, beans and wheat all down, down 7 a bushel, 1 down 0. 07, beans were down 0. 30 down almost 14 a bushel and the First Time Since may under a dollars a bushel down 2 , 0. 16. Traders love today, look at blood mess behind me. Was a good day. [talking over each other] liz i have been there. Thank you very much. You saw that storm barreling down. Cant blame this on the Alberta Clipper this time. Dont blame the canadiens for everything. We heard from Charlie Gasparino about the deal, the long independence Stock Exchange and very an Intercontinental Exchange, combining forces but what does it mean for shareholders. Not bad if you want two million shares depending on where you bought it because it is jumping 33 . Joining us now Thomas Caldwell has a lot of this stuff. You have two million shares. Correct . Portfolios are managed, two million sharesa lot more than that. Liz you were at one point largest shoulder shareholders, what was your cost basis . Are you above water . It sold out depending when you bought it. In this final position we will probably be getting some profit. Not get rich profit but great for profit. Liz so first a ferrari here. Obviously it is a positive thing for shareholders. Stock has been willing wishing ever since the failed. Aborts merger. It is down 8 and theyre about but popped out from that ritter possibility. Should have been approved. This wont have the same problems but the stock dipped in the 20s and has been climbing back, 23, 24 and had this bounce yesterday so people are happy with that. Is a tough business. The cash equity business has been obliterated in america for and parts of the world but particularly in the u. S. Liz we were showing the volume coat over the past several years, you have seen it volatile but always on a trajectory that is downward and here it is, Trading Volume on the decline so they have to do something to survive. Are you a little win some for the old nasdaq deal 42 a share versus this one which is 33. 12 a share . I dont know that when some is the word. [talking over each other] i am grateful no matter what is going on. The cash equity business, regulation, introduced hyper competition. It fragmented the market, pull off volume, squeezed margins and investors are investing less in cash equity. There has been so much in a way of scandals and regulatory overkill that people kind of walked away, looking at realestate, new york had to cope with a diminishing high, and cash equities, and it is a smaller pie. They have to merge. To bring their costs down. And lay off their people. Ice does get this international future. And it is that pretty good idea. Liz as we finish up, the macro picture, are you have the on equities going into 2013. I am an incurable optimist, it is beautiful and you are right, dont blame it all on the canadians. Look at the turmoil in america, america will eventually do the right thing after exhausting all the possibilities. You will get it right. Liz happy holidays, great to see you. Thank you for getting in the chair force. He is in the money today. We will be right back. Dow jones industrials losing much of its gain. We will see what happens by the closing bell. Tdd 18003452550 this morning, im going to trade in hong kong. 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The stock up with other ones like arcadia and others in the space, but for you, youre on all regions of the map. They say real estate is low local, isnt it . Which area is best for you . Were a National Company and concentrate on the new york city metro, we have 80 shopping centers, and 140 in Obama Baltimore and wushz area. These are major cities, live, work, and play. One looking better than the other . The coasts are looking good, although, chicago is a major area. Texas is a good strong market for us, good employment growth. 12 of the properties in california. We know californias financial situation is dire at this moment. I follow it closely. Any erosion there or worrying trends . Not so far. Its hard to build in california. If theres an existing shopping center, its going okay, like in los angeles leading me to the next question. A lot of the guys are sprucing up existing malls. Theres not as much out right building, or what are you doing . Whats the choice here . The economics are not there to justify new buildings. Rents have not recovered to the levels they were years ago so in terms of buying land, getting it titled, zoned, and then building just doesnt make economic sense. Its easier to renovate and expand what you already own. Were showing what retailers are in most properties. Walmart, sears, petco, best buy, and then dollar tree, t. J. Maxx, ross, i dont know, is one area doing benter than another right now i think the analogy of a barbell works. The low eed discounts doing well, and the high end. Its the people in the middle struggling for the right Business Model. You have a juicy dividend, 4. 3 , but we have to let people know taxed at a regular income rate so if something happened in the fiscal cliff discussions, youre already taxed at 35 . Exactly right making these dividends look better as ordinary taxes go up. Absolutely. Important point, folks, and bet ere than your savings account or treasury yield. 4. 3 . Whats not to love . Good to see you. Thank you, liz. Liz happy holidays. Thank you. Liz closing bell ringing in 28 minutes. If youre trying to figure out who the winners in retail for the Holiday Season are, and, yeah, losers, too, you may need an edge, maybe somebody doing the leg work for you. Dont lift a peter. Wedont lift a finger, we have peter to do that, and hell tell you whats hot and not. His fund beat the s p500 by the wide margin, year after year, coming up next. Girl dont look at me. Second girl your hairs a bit frizzy today. Aw ha ha you should pick that up. Announcer every day, kids witness bullying. Poor you. Ha ha they want to help but dont know how. Teach your kids how to be more than a bystander. Visit stopbullying. Gov. Liz finally the quarter that research in motion turns it around . Probably not, but at least the blackberry 10 comes out in a month, and people are hoping on this one. Lets get to the news room. Blackberries. Yeah, research in motion in the hot seat after close today, high anticipation of bb10 on january 10th. The numbers were looking for, expecting a lot, 35 Cents Per Share on revenues of 2. 66 billion. As far as blackberry 10, thats the key focus for any analyst earning comem tear commentary they make. This is what i know, ive been invited to a big splashy event here in new york city. The device and operated system tested by 120 institutions including 64 fortune 500 companies. Theres two devices launched. One with the keyboard that we cant get rid of, and the other that we know and love and a touch screen device. Already major u. S. And european carriers signed on board. We want to know more, however, any preorder details will move the stock, and well talk about that after close today. The stock up already ahead of those numbers as well. Liz i dont know how the company fumbled such a massive market share. I know you are with me, i cant let go. You get the second phone for the pictures, but the dont forget well cover research in motions Earnings Report after the bell the second numbers come out. Well have them, and, oh, yes, nike as well. Dont miss nike. Supposed to be a hot seller, but the wii console caused a problem for a game maker. They had thousands and thousands of preorders ton this. Im sitting with my friends, chatting about game stock, and he cant comment on it because hes trading on it, but its down 5. 5 right now for game stock, not ad good move there, under pressure, and thats because we have the analysts talking over, and they cut revenue estimates for game stop based on what they see from nintendo, the wii u, and i know kids with that on their holiday list, but its not all its cracked up to be, and they will not see the sales from the wii u they hoped. The Technical Details of the system were disappointing so with that great review, not so great after all, thats why you see the pull back in game stop. Liz a nice performance over the year, i will say that for game stop. Right, yeah. Liz thank you very much. So much of that is the supermario stuff my kid has to have. What is with that . Okay. A fund manager beating markets off your holiday shopping. You have two extra shopping days this year. Did you know that . Peter dixon Research Analyst has an excellent record picking stores you shop at, and its too early to see what the sales will be, but hes optimistic. We have retail winners and losers. Hi, peter, thank you for joining us. Hi, liz, thank you for having me. Liz youre up 28 year over year, and just the fund manager i want in front of our viewers because you actually have a good track record of success. Who looks good here with the winners . Well, you know, im generally optimistic on retail this Holiday Season, but theres mixed signals out there, and i think that its really too early to determine who the winners and losers are, but eng you do have to be i think you do have to be very selective. Im looking for the best brands and categories because i think that leads to the best Earnings Growth, and i believe stocks follow earnings. Best Earnings Growth should lead to the best stock performance. Liz how do you go about choosing that . Warren buffet picks best in class or second best in class, a competitive mote around the product, but whats your metrics in picking a stock to put in your fund . Well, for me, its really all about bottomup fundamental analysis looking through financial statements, talking to companies, talking to consumers, looking at whats going on out in stores, but, really, just paying attention watching to see what brands are gaining traction, gaining momentum, what are popular, and, also, what categories are growing the fastest or have the potential to grow the fastest. Liz what categories are growing . The ones that really look healthy . Sure. So theres, you know, footwear, accessories, handbag, things like that, a good example. Liz purses. Exactly. Liz i dont know. Its a thing with women. We love brand new bag every fourth season, okay, every second season. Okay. Footwear specifically, look at whats in your fund, and weve got a whole bunch of names here, but heres some stocks up there. Is it more the athletic footwear, off price, or we have seen that some of the boots out there are not doing as well. I dont know if you own ugg, but its not doing wonderfully. Is there a specific, a sub sector here . Well, speaking of footwear, certainly areas of athletic and fashion. Boots have been doing well in general, but consumer tastes can change, and it really comes down to individual brands and styles that are resinating with consumers. Liz lets go with the retailer areas that you feel are price sensitive that might not necessarily do as well in 2013. Sure. Absolutely. Well, if you look at the kind of moderate levels of apartment store department stores, certainly challenges there and areas of childrens apparel retail. The teen space, generally doing well, but, again, be selective. You have winners and losers, and i think theres some lagging in the teen space team space, and, again, you really have to be selective about an individual space. I could, you know, paint broad strokes. I talk about moderate department stores, but some could be doing well, and just a category right now, a little bit choppy is weather sensitive areas, and we know its been warm, and we have a very unseasonably warm winter last year. Certain areas of weather sensitive categories are more choppy, not weak across the board. Liz a couple snowstorms, one in the midwest coming. That could juice the stock. Nice to see you, happy holidays. Thank you for having me, liz. Liz up year over year 28 , he is the Fidelity Investments research and analysis portfolio manager. Closing bell in 16 minutes, uncertainty swirling into the year. We have cliffmas, as in merry cliffmas. Look, where the markets freeze and thaw in 2013 . Thats what scott freeze says mite happen. Get ready, he has a weather pattern he believes will happen with the markets, more than 50 billion in assets under advisement. Hell tell you what to watch for and when to buy. From the best players in history to the number 1 club in the world. The potential of Manchester United unlocked. Nyse euronext. Unlocking the worlds potential. Can i still ship a gift in time r christmas . Yeah, sure you can. Great. Wheres your gift . Uh. Whew. [ male announcer ] break from the holiday stress. Ship Fedex Express by december 22nd for christmas delivery. Liz fox Business Market check, cruise operators, carnival, lower by 6 here, a weak outlook for the fiscal year blaming the trend of cruise goers booking their trips closer to when they set sail for foggy visibility. This comes ahead of the wave season when travelers book the majority of years business. Right now, looking at shares there, royal crabbian down about caribbean down about 2 there. Not a great day for the cruise lines. What are the telltale signs that tell us what the 2013 economy and markets look like . Signals that tip us or money people out there, a, the mayan apocalypse, a baby bump, or, country, new tax laws in the u. S. Guess; right . Scott freeze, street run financial president , the answers in the fox business exclusive. I know really smart people scared about the mayan calendar tomorrow. Like, dude, no, chill. You have 50, 50 billion under management. What are you thinking about in 2013 as far as investing is concerned and how it pertains to what the economy might do . First of all, no fiscal cliff deal. Were going over the cliff, best thing that can happen for us. People have to remember, even if theres a last minute deal, it looks like its over the cliff. First quarter next year, probably a tough road to hoe. The market corrects 8 , unemployment still stagnant, wont turn around liz how long does it last . Three or four months. Were not looking at an an extended president , but companies have to figure out whats going on, how do the handle the tax situation, whats the rate, how do i handle obamacare and this. Once theres a couple months of a known environment, they can position themselves for the future. Like anything else, the economys cyclical. Its been a bad depression or recession, whatever you want to call it, but we are coming out. There could be a slight doubledip, but its been something in my opinion, over emphasized. Liz watch out for a 8 10 drop nearing the beginning . Beginning of 2013. Liz not cash out, but how would you go into the value names because the value names look like risk stocks, and towards the second quarter, go into the Third Quarter, get out of value names and the growth stocks. Liz how do you define a value name . As we discussed before, oldschool technology is one of my favorite plays right now, the 1990s names opposed to the newschool technologies, oracles, microsofts, and intels. Liz intel was out performing the first part of the year, and that fell off. True. Liz what has microsoft done . Not exciting, oracle, definitely. Not exciting, but if the market drops and its flat, you make up the 8 . If you are flat when the market drops 8 , in my book, youre up 8 and thats a win because youre not losing with Everything Else is benchmarked. High yield, the hyld that we talked about before, hyg. The tax implications, just dont by 3m or ibm. Go into high every yield strurmts so higher yield instruments so after liz spreads relative to treasuries narrow the, narrowed, which they have, is this the trade picked over too much . I think it has, but this is the next three to four months, nothing to model your ported folio on for two years. Liz its a trade . Its a trade for the next three or four months to be stable, get the returns youre used to, and you have to see how it shakes out. Look at everything. Okay, i understand the tax consequences, what were looking at, and now i can plan ahead, and then by may or june, its that turn around where youre going to be starting to get out of the products back into the growth names. Liz what do you say to friends who im just scared im going into treasuries . I just laugh at them. I really dont have any friends that act like that. Liz i say youre not my friend. Thank you so much. Thank you. Liz scott, happy, happy holidays. You too. Liz good to see you, scott freeze, closing bell in six and a half minutes. At the top of the hour after the bell, full coverage of rim earnings, the blackberry. Whats going on with the company . They had a nice move in stock, but we have an exclusive with randy potts, ceo and president of winnebago industries. They crushed it. 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A lot of good economic Third Quarter gdp revised up to 3. 1, the market completely ignored it. We will focus on what is going on in d. C. John boehner more optimistic a little earlier, just a hit. That is why we are slightly higher. Liz a procedural vote happening, neil cavuto live with everything you need at 8 00 eastern because that is when the vote will take place that the traders watch it and so is Nicole Petallides on the floor of the Stock Exchange, standing at a place that will be changing the ownership, intercontinental that has to be the topic. Nicole this is the topic. Monumental day on wall street. This is the 200yearold institution and now
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