[000 00 16;00] ukraine, my love , and the world of fields, our wills are perishing, i am in the sun in my own and in the morning, i am oleksandr sklyar, born and raised in kharkiv, in a city that suffers daily from russian weapons. I know that poltava has become a home for tens of thousands of immigrants, and for me a second hometown where were the best years of my career . Thank you to the armed forces of ukraine for the opportunity to play football. I have such a head in the weather. There are various reasons for the headache, but there is a solution. Combispasm and a normal head skillfully overcomes pain and spasm combispasm. 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Greetings viewers espresso traditionally on our tv channel we record an interview with a sign personalities, and today my guest is a worldfamous director, a laureate of cannes and other world film festivals, a film and theater director, actually a zanussi joke for those who do not understand cinema and may not have seen the films of mr. Zanussi, then i will say yes a descendant of the same zanusi who manufacture household appliances, he is a pshestafa there. Good day. I greet you and all the tv viewers. With your permission, i will make a small introduction and confess to our viewers that i know you well and not as a journalist. In fact, mr. Krzysztof has been doing a lot for ukraine since 2014 as only russia started a war against ukraine, and actually in that struggle he stood on the side of ukraine. He appealed to the World Community for russia to free oleg sentsov, and of course he supported the ukrainians. And also my family because in 2014, when yanukovychs posipaks kidnapped my brother. He was then a student of the acting faculty and he had to flee the country. He ended up in poland, i dont know if he doesnt understand the language. What should he do and the belarusian journalist my friend said, lets introduce him to zshishtof zanusi. He supports such young people who have a life position that wants to change something , and i didnt believe that it would be possible. Sheltered him and not only helped him figure out how to act in poland, but also later his brother played him in the film uh, a joint ukrainianpolish film, one of the main roles. The city of khodoryv in the lviv region and also visited us in buch and yours truly, you probably remember how you visited us in buch. It was in the summer even before the fullscale invasion began. He probably said that he had about six months left, maybe seven months, mukpan. Could you then believe if someone said that bucha would become such a painful symbol of the struggle of ukrainians against the russians that it would be occupied, that the russians would rape women, kill ordinary unarmed people, shoot children , did you have such a premonition . In general, we will once again live to see what we already remember, i can remember because i am already quite old, so i know what the Second World War was, and the fact that we will live to see a new war in europe seemed impossible to us it seemed that it had already passed forever and in the meantime it has not passed and thats why its even hard for me to imagine that this is real, that this is not the world on the screen, that this is not a virtual world, but the real one, and all this is actually a fact, it is very painful and very sad evidence about the fact that our hope for the progress of humanity is still a little premature, the progress is quite slow, and maybe even doubtful. The war in ukraine began in 2014, and actually at the time of the fullscale invasion, it had already been going on for 8 years. I can definitely say that russia may to do something similar with ukraine that started on february 24, 2022, similar thoughts that europe is tight because we live relatively tight compared to other continents. That in that tight europe there will be some corrections of borders implemented with the help of violence. It seemed that this was already in the past. Some 19th century, when was the last time such things took place, and it really seems that what is happening in your ukraine is like the last colonial war that is being fought, because all other colonial conflicts have been resolved , sometimes it even hurts, because when i think about france, which ceded to algeria. Despite the fact that this land was inhabited by the french for centuries, it was necessary to turn this page. And now something is happening nearby when one country does not want to allow another country to exist as a sovereign and independent country. Is a historical anachronism, lets look at us like this, but it is also a terrible pain of patience for those who are victims of that and on chronism, which wants to destroy another, always repeated that it has a great culture and not only russia spoke about its culture, but also the world he repeated this, how could people of such medical culture allow a fullscale war and the one that began in 2014 to resort to these barbaric atrocities that people in buch and other ukrainian cities felt and that ukrainians still feel in other cities of ukraine and before the holiday, you know, we already reworked similar considerations after the Second World War, because what a wonderful culture the germans created. At the same time, it was the german people who elected hitler in democratic elections and in principle supported his proposals, so culture is something what really has a great importance and is related primarily to some part of society when they make clear some aspirations of the masses who want to somehow find their place in that life, i could because of this tragic that we recognize in the most beautiful russian culture also the sources and beginnings of those thoughts that can be seen in this war , but actually this is probably such a complexity that different conclusions can be drawn from the same thoughts and ideas, which conclusions that flow from russian culture must be completely different, because this is the culture of the great humanism is a culture in which chekhov or tolstoy, in short, predostoevsky, showed the entire depth of the human soul and the entire depth of such a variety of potential meanness that lies in the person of others. People probably did not see themselves enough in their own mirror. What is russian culture . But is that travel condemned in their works . I think so, i have no doubt that dostoevsky is a strict judge of his people, and above all of himself, whom he actually depicted in his works, so i would not suspect that there is any hypocrisy here, unless there really is some such a nonencouragement to such a passive view of life here, for example, that nothing can be done, that man is incapable of his own meanness, that he must obey it, and this is actually not true, and everything western culture is permeated with the idea that it is impossible to completely eliminate evil from this world, but evil it is possible to limit the resistance instead and the incompetence of handwringing and so it must be because they are already like that, unfortunately, it is the very bad legacy of eastern thinking with which russia is imbued, i dont know to what extent it is under the influence of the mongolian where did such thoughts and reasoning come from, which are completely different from the western european type of thinking, which assumes that a person is looking for realization so that everyone has a platform where he can change something in his life and actually i think it is very important today that you remember that we still can to change the world, sometimes it requires huge sacrifices, do you know putin personally . Well, i can say this, the question always arises , does putin know me . I have met him several times in my life, maybe five or six. Once i sat next to the president during to the moscow film festival, many years ago , it seems somewhere in 2002. So i can say that i had a little closer contact with him, although it was really insignificant. What can you say about him after those meetings . What is his impression on you as a director of rules, you know , it is very difficult for me to evaluate a person, especially a politician. All politicians have elaborate masks behind which they hide, probably like a person who is looking for actors for theater or cinema. I would say that president putin to a certain extent is a gloomy old quality, this gloom is felt for people who are connected to the special services , a lot of such people carry themselves and in the company of a very dangerous profession, this is immediately noticeable, and Everything Else is here and banal things, such as what he is he is an intellectual person , closed to himself, but these are already such traits that are visible in his every public appearance. You had the opportunity to meet putin several times. You also know many russian directors , actors, actors, because together with them worked on joint polishrussian films russian polish ee cheater do you maintain and now contact with familiar artists from russia is now very difficult this year i received several calls and emails to my relatives tickets formal signs that we still know each other but it probably cannot be for someone else, because our communication is not so free, probably all our conversations are recorded and theirs, besides, only Nikita Mikhalkov of my acquaintances is a person who openly stands on the side of the authorities, and with him it would certainly be it is difficult to communicate, although we always knew that he lives in such and such a myth of imperial russia, he can complete the origin of the policeman by the fact that he is from a boyar family, his father was also an employee, he was in the service of stalin, in the service there was no rethinking of those years of communism, which is not recognized, no one is to blame , but also about those who praised the decision of an unsuccessful, illconceived industrialization simply in the conditions of a dictatorship where there is no criticism and where there is no competition. Everything then happens in such a deformed way that russia has not reconsidered the past has not reviewed the reasons for its backwardness, it is not as developed as the United States of america. Because it should be like that even before pyrotechnics, only then can you talk about such a thing, but in fact you are a critical view that allows you to move forward with some new ideas, because for russia, for russia there is a place in the whole World Community for russia , there is a place in europe, which needs that eastern lung, as john paul ii once said, well , its like the number of languages lvivians ruled second but russia has not rethought its own past and this is a huge loss for russia itself, and this should be taken into account as a misfortune that has befallen this nation, and what if you look at history, it would be clear that bad things happened there in the past, and it would be much easier to look into the future. I wanted to clarify about Nikita Mikhalkova have you been in contact with him lately after february 24 or did you talk no no no at all no contact really after 2014 no close conversations eh mr. Trust me already i didnt understand my communist past so now she will have to rethink also new mistakes, new sins, this war that it started against ukraine and which continues until now. This is true, but for rethinking, freedom is needed. Creative power, so that people do not go abroad when they are in some controversy, even with the majority. And so that they can participate in that controversy while inside the country. On the edge, then they serve that country , because a huge number of people from russia, creative people, left the country, and i do not know them i meet a huge number of emigrants in the baltic countries, georgia, germany, austria they are usually the intelligentsia, Young Creative people here. Actually, they are leaving. And then who should liberate russia if there are only those who support putin and where to fight against ukraine or those who say that they are not interested in politics, but we already know from history that it will not be possible to say that this is politics that does not concern me, politics applies to everyone as uh, as it was during the times of various totalitarian regimes in europe. Above all, under hitlers totalitarianism, all germans were in to a certain extent responsible or did not resist it is some kind of mistake a big historical mistake when people do not resist the sound but evil must be fought accordingly mr. Ukrainians dont quite understand rome recently, the pope addressed the russian catholic youth, im quoting nick, where in your city of great russia did they receive the great russia of peter the great, catherine ii, there are empires of course, he said of the great, enlightened, great culture and great humanity, the vatican immediately began to explain that the pope does not admire russian imperialism, but not only ukrainians were outraged by his words in other countries , which saw from their own experience what russia is , they also did not accept what it is and what it is. Communism as p how do you evaluate the words and actions of the current pope . I think that they are dictated by his south American Perspective and perception. He knows little about european history, and this is clearly visible kateryna ii are not people who have served christianity, rather the opposite already exists, and this reverse, er, you seem to me that this is a very unfortunate statement and i am very sorry as a catholic , but i know that contrary to dogma there, the pope can be wrong in such matters, he just said that something very its not like march is the month to pay tribute to the positive contributions that russia made to the history of mankind, not thanks to the empire, peter i, catherine ii, not thanks to its rulers, but more thanks to its artists, talents , scientists. The contribution to human wealth is ultimately great, and the pope formulated it very poorly, we know that he improvised it then , and the improvisation was unsuccessful in my opinion, well , we have a puppy museum , the territory of Terror Jewish goethe lviv was transformed by the soviet occupiers into a prison with which the path led to death a better example of the symbiosis of two totalitarian regimes cannot be found, the nazis created this ghetto in order to destroy the Jewish Population of the city, from this place there was only one way to the death camps , the bolsheviks used this experience to make their the prisoners of their enemies of the people are also sent to death camps in the capitals and today, modern ukraine is attacking the regime that became the heir to both of these totalitarian dictatorships of both of these people on nazism practices the road to auschwitz the road proved leads to the deer vasyl stus is always relevant for everyone his own Akhtem Seytablaev the one who was called yours the one who chose you forever to him from a young age you confessed to him the lord himself your year elizaveta zharikova life is incapable of competition the past would teach and let Yaryna Chornoguz to the mirror directed on me exactly that mine and no goal you are really here you are really here you are definitely not here like that not here where are you and where are you and where are you Taras Kompanichenko god forbid summer from your fury god forbid laskin let us break mutations these chains will be distributed exclusively on the air of the vasyl zimi program, viewers of the espresso tv channel will be the first to learn the name of the 2023 vasyl stus prize laureate. 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M casarolli and im already on a mission. I think she sometimes comes back. But i hope that it was just an unfortunate incident and nothing more. The episode is the same as lars von trier. Strange things about the war in ukraine to our