a few hours these cases like mans that we just saw where people were taken away into secret prisons all into occasion facilities. much rarer what we know is for of course the case of one. british consulate employee simon schama who was held there for 15 days and who has just given an account off torture that was much worse than what our man here describes ok so we're not only talking about torture though we're also talking about as stanley wang expressed one of his fears of being disappeared now now what is being disappeared and how much of a threat is that for hong kong protesters. well people can be disappeared in china at any time they would be taken into some facilities that