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On a wooden chair and looks silently into the eyes of the visitors and existential experience. The artist is present was the title of the performance that made Marina Abramovich a legend. Autumn two thousand and sixteen we need her again a new york for her seventieth birthday a woman who knows the effect she has a bit of a diva cool and very intense. Aids. That mother. Forgiveness. Longing. And. Loneliness. Marina abramovich turned her life into a radical and ruthlessly frank. The medium is her body since the night you seventys shes been exposing herself to her fears to pain to danger. And this is from a bit i think our first saw you in ninety six and you became fifty and you didnt really like it as far as i remember at that time so what about now you are facing the seven. That change you know its actually so great time do you need time for the study itself you need time to to actually learn things you know you have to time to to kind of understand to visit them of being auld and seventy is a big number so you know that you reach seventy and you know that you know that youre going to the last part of your life and you have to really concentrate on most important things and they decide to be happy this is my main you know kind of come to say. The syrian about that is seventy. Abramovich grew up after World War Two in belgrade which was the capital of communist yugoslavia. Parents had for the nazis as partisans the father was a high ranking officer a mother a historian it was a strict term discipline was more important than love. The child that was you know painting my dreams and then. And i was writing poetry and then i went to art a car then me and then i started painting and then from the painting somehow come this old idea of making a performance i really was thinking to be in the studio in paint something which is two dimensional sort of actually restricted what about going out or what about using fire the water use in the elements using the own body using your own blood and your own emotions and creating art with that and this was really my beginning and of course doing this in exodus slavia which had been every access to the other ideas similar in that time internationally i was like a black sheep in the middle of nowhere and everybody was taken completely crazy this war is nothing this is not you cant call this art my professors the shame of me my parents was criticize and Party Meetings and i just continued the only thing i had in that time it was my intuition somehow somewhere i was right up. To you to. Ask you. If i coast the pain to myself in order to free myself from pain than pain is a play and this was exactly youre not youre afraid of pain confronted with pain get free of pain thats exactly what i have to be done and is in my life to become something that i do with everything you know if im afraid of something or you are on end panicking or im going to unknown i would do it to see other side when i was trial when i was six years old i stay one hour year in hospital because the people think that the same ophelia i had when i took my baby to i believe three months i have to sit in the bed not to suffocate so the feeling of. Bleeding was metal the feel of pain of cutting the stuff because for me bleeding was like going just liquid is leaving your body for it to dart. It you hate this coming style so much that you have to burn it you know if you leave a child in that kind of comedy so restricted situation. If you dont like restrictions kids theres a white things were forbidden and i think i have a not just the problem with the with the sister but also the problem internal with my own family and and researchers i had so felt like i mean i can breathe im in prison i made a really important work which is really not very people know we school. The free before our eyes which we literally took postcard sobell great streets and they removed the buildings and they just have this empty spaces where the carson people walking the free horizon. Were such important kind it was a conceptual work was important symbolically and metaphorically that actually im removing all this and im getting this free space for myself which is interesting about this work which i made in the early seventys become almost strange kind of traditional because some of these buildings we want recently in bochum of war and they dont exist so i was always predict this for the horizon situation in one thousand nine hundred eighty five abramovich met Performance Artist in van nuys even better known as only. A couple two of the world in a van like nomads they lived with aborigines in history in outback with Buddhist Monks in tibet. I mean you met and you really had a right strong. Not only were but relation and you had first is a strong relations veteran of the war. First was absolutely a love story and then become more if you look back to this now are all important was it for you or i will never change for the world this was very important speeches but this was a really credibly. Radical time but also unbelievably romantic i mean its almost romantic like a movie romantic you know two people get together the same but theyre born they get the car the travel around the world they go to deserts they experience the different cultures and make the work and you know and be in a lot of it you can have better than that without compromising to that any art market because if they have any money but just believe in what were doing. You know its like after every sunny day there is rain so are alicia fall apart and fall apart more and more and i was even completely apart but its the process you know you have to look at this from outside you know and see how i am not angry and not disappointed and not you know i just see this that was you know thats what happened and it was worth every minute. And you made you not just decided to separate like other couples two you made a performance out of this you know the will of the fourth you said to me ok you have to walk to an after hours a kilometer each to say goodbye can you just make phone call i cut the humans we didnt we didnt because we never give up anything and you know took us a to use the permission to train his gift to us finally we got permission we was and a for a ship and then instead of come getting together and mary on the chinese wall we say goodbye. You discovered the passion for you also after the separation or think in the fortys it was kind of new are you and you didnt allow it before to yourself if you look at the funny performance fashion of the of the Performance Artists it was make it ugly black or dirty white this is it with any other thing to wear and leave stick and nail polish you know fashion was totally disregard its like a family feeling something that is ridiculous that its like you know its just you know kind of completely borg our idea that artists not look like that and then you know i got i was forty i fell as a say i glee i be i wanted and fat. And they sold the work and this first time i saw money i was in paris so the next day i went to the motor shop i bought my first first question cause i remember coming out of the shop i feel great this is why i should not feel in this was the wrong with that. I dont want to be like that kind of abandoned and on and miserable i want to feel good. And this and this really works with the with the sun with the you know just for just about fashion is about i do meditation winter retreats im going to wear you away the places in india i have there all system of actually how i work with my body my works planted doesnt fenty i dont space to breathe for the souls to bring you know your performances and trying to do different projects collaboration works so all this mess and then comes this island of quietness which is the performance of self which is one direction. Performance and moment was really a long list told me the title he would like to have for the show will be artists present and when you say art is present and the proof and and this is three months mama i think i didnt have any other choice than being present at the time and also i know it was very difficult i know that was huge the man the process but they also know that it was my huge chance to learn to short to the public transformative force of performance and with absolute simply nothing. But done this artist is present with thinking that this chair will be empty because this new york nobody have time to sit and have several scrapes it was weird to sit in front of you chair was never never empty i had people slept in the front of the museum. Curator of the night the new york has known i mean abramovich for over two decades. I remember when i look back at our first encounter. So i go to amsterdam and shes surprised i came to amsterdam because she is like so open to everybody and she is so. Generous with her attention and i remember i was upstairs and there was a plumber coming ring ring ring the doorbell rings and the plumber comes into been country anyone and she is so generous with so much attention and the plumber goes and i certainly arena. You what so it was a chair if you are always the chair because whoever is in front of you youre giving all this attention generosity but thats literally who she is she cant do differently is thats where she is and that is something that is best placed in her work because this is the incredible generosity that the artist as president sitting in the atrium gives to everybody who sits where cern everybody around her. And i was thinking why this important performance got such incredible you know attention i think because the public right now is so much ready for this kind of spirits twenty years ago would not be right that there was will be Something Else going on to try to now we are so tired of looking things when so tired. Of goddess of technology all noncommunication on the completely not the ability to have emotions to to have relationships on good things to separate right now so the public want to be part of something that they can back their own experience which would give to them i think it was definitely a groundbreaking moment that her exhibition also was so present and so popular and so strong that i think it encouraged as a curators and other museums to revaluate so history of Performance Art and it encouraged and inspired lots of young artist to bring forward Performance Art as a viable practice as an option in her in her upcoming. For some time now Marina Abramovic has worked closely with Young Artists. In spring two thousand and sixteen they developed a joint performance project in athens. To me doubtless was one of the most fantastic experience or building a new community you know we arrive in arkansas with a huge refugee crisis with the economic and political crisis with the country is unstable which binoculars sam had the seventy people that week. And recreate it completely Something Else we had in this period fifty three thousand people which is like even the biggest audience that ever had in greece was thirty thousand for the for the going to show that this is fifty three thousand people coming from islands from anywhere to experience so the blithely say we occupied we made the opera call and we had more than three hundred twenty i think the applications which was six and this for six artists we you know we made the washer clean the house of the mountains oh my god this was snowing and ice cold water there to swim and all that not to eat and all the rest just to kind of create the stamina and willpower and then we came to museums and the perform the absolutely the racial performances eight hours a day the time of the museum for you know two four months. Into your work i mire that way she has accused her body all these years like without any words she was making very strong statements by the way she was using her body and that the way she uses time as well the way she acts plants die as expounds here experience as a performer for the audience as well. The last thing i like the marina was like when i was in the exhibition the way she was moving in the museum i always had the feeling like shes at home and sometimes when i was performing i could feel her energy like i knew our floor just look at our performances because you could feel her. Face think that right. But i want you to be my friend because we hear talk about everything about about. People about. This i mean thing experience because she was talking. More awareness about her life about about everything that. How shes watching and everything and it was very special because that day we took all the energy to start our project. Having reached the pinnacle of the young world and i know im much wants to share her Life Experience most only with Young Artists but also with a broad audience. That took me fifty years to come to the point where i am now that i know all that i actually i can give the tools to the public to experience that on problems that also on pain on things come to the rise to such a simple example of the salty you take a month of rice about the separate after why you see me using maybe forty five minutes later you go crazy youre bored you get angry while doing this and with all this emotion sponsored by you come to the street to throw cream into two very spins before your heart has been beating there regularly your breathing is regular and time dont matter anymore and that could achieve that kind of peace through creativity is just rice is just that i mean youre dealing with that quite a long time already why did you do that or what you know i dont know one of us actually deal with that nuff because you have to deal with that every day you have to wake up in the morning and all that maybe its your last day if you have this fortitude to life you really can enjoy life much more if we really think we are there forever and you forget that kind of moment of complete oddity that because that could come any second and we have to know what that means to be ready someone who works for permission for this. Oh. Here you are you. In the performance of words there is one sentence i think at the very end you will be alone whatever you do and this truth. Becomes that if youre not dying in the groups. You know and that kind of think its important to learn and to also accept that you know not to and to be kind of afraid of so many people dont think about that because theyre simply afraid this culture here not nobody think about that because that they have to be every young and and i think its wrong you know if you go to india you go to tibet you go to these places i mean the debt is like everyday life you see it and thats how they deal with this is so healthy i just something that i learn from them what the book just came out. And youre writing a memoir. Part of the purpose is to clean your memory so making now the memoirs it was very important step because theyre trying to skim like you know like a snake you know you just get in your skin and you leave the past behind and the moment you leave the past behind youre free so in this new period i called the cleaner clean the past you claim you sold your claim your physical body and youre ready for that last part of your life and this have to be happy and lived with full of joy. You know i just want to say the book is that the kid to france an enemy is important. Yes that you have those three parts in your staff like the girl and no way and the warrior of the soldier the fighter and this kind of spirital person so you think the spiritual takes over now when you get older or i really think when i come times that i feel physically not able to deliver what i suspected from me i would like so much to actually go to monastery and rest leave part last part of my life in there with monks this is really my really wish because really going to this passage of between light between life and that its important you have to kind of get ready and you can get ready only spiritual way you could i think this is horrifying to me to to to live in newark you go to all people houses and just wait for that there this is like the not the kind of life i want well kind of preparation i want to have. But im not. Going on. The. Good. Oh no. I will save some more by buys some more things i think by by list is getting longer which would it be they also say already say by by our happiness by by suffering by by. Intensity i actually will bring back i dont want to say bye bye to intensity im intense human. But i will say the byebye will bullshit. Well supported by. Jenny. Marina abramovic has lived in new york since two thousand finally we conducted an interview with her shortly before the u. S. President ial elections what did this free spirit say about the little country. Im really european and im looking with a huge amazement with separately in this country that regard to the the the kind of a level that political took place this is my boy. And. Violence and its. Violence. Stop. Fashion. Pleasure the thugs. Joyful chocolate. Oh yes. Heaven no legged tell me fifteen minutes go to apologise but i can go to church but this is the truth this is why so good if not freedom i didnt put myself in any case at all. The book. 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