Im not obligated on the pledge. I was just elected. The only thing im honoring is the oath that i take that ive sworn in in january. That is the sound of cracks forming in Grover Norquists facade. Hes the guy who gets republicans to sign a pledge that they will never ever under any circumstances raise taxes. But with the fiscal cliff looming, theres a growing consensus that taxes may have to go up. Norquist said those who reneged would pay a price. Would you target some of them . We would certainly highlight who has kept their commitment and who hasnt. Fortunately for grover, but unfortunately for those who want everyone to contribute their fair share there are plenty of republicans caught in the pass, plenty who cant accept that president obama won reelection there are some republicans who recognize they did lose and that new revenue new tax revenue will have to be part of any deficit deal. I noticed Mitch Mcconnells talked about tax rates. Hes going to insist that tax rates not go any higher. Youve got the mathematicians trying to raise the numbers. You can exact the rate throughout a persons entire income. Theyre looking for ways to finagle this. Republicans are going to have to retreat and theyre going to get a better deal before the end of the year than going into the new year. I want to ask you about that, what eleanor said about the end of the year rather than going into the new year. Who benefits, if anyone, if they kick the can down the road, get a new congress. Isnt there something to be said with this new democratic strength coming into the senate . Its a little stronger there. You have a stronger president picked up a few seats in the house. Doesnt kicking the can down until february or march and do something thats maybe a bandaid now help the cost. It helps to a certain extent, but doesnt help the Republican Party all that much, because again, theyre going to be blamed if we get a shortterm deal, theyre not going to be happy about going along with something that may not exist with the new congress coming up that they may have to fix. Certainly it benefits president obama. He gets a stronger hand coming in. Lets be clear the leverage all on his side is striking while the iron is hot and knowing that you have vulnerable republicans in the hot seat right now. Grover norquist is taking names trying to figure out who has been naughty and who has been nice. There may be some significant payback that hell exact at some point. All sciences indicate they need to do something before the end of the year because president obamas bargaining strength is probably at a premium right now and would only go down a little bit if he has to wait until the next congress, because certainly republicans will get blamed for a lot of mess that ensues. Eleanor the bargaining strength, the president s never been stronger. We know what hes like when he gets bargaining strength. Why does he even have to bargain . Why does he to have cut these entitlements . Is there any feeling in washington right now that hey the president won he won a plurality of the electoral votes, by 4 in the popular vote, maybe dont touch medicaid these sacred cows as theyre called. He campaigned oh on a balanced approach, and a balanced approach includes entitlement reduction. I think youve got some progressives who understand that if the medicare, medicaid isnt reigned in somehow that it will eat you the rest of the budget and there wont be any money left for the things that progressives want. I think hes got some Bargaining Power on the left, as well as on the right and to get 218 votes in the house he needs to get 3035 republican votes and then the democrats can pay us the rest of it, if its a deal that much to the democratics liking that he only needs to shave off you know, three dozen republicans. That would be a deal weighted toward the democrats. Will the republicans then totally resist . You know, nobodys ever gone broke underestimating republican obstructionism. Thats for sure. Is a listen to you though, as i listen to you the grand bargain was on the table, the president apparently willing to do it earlier this year, and now its, you know, now hes won a more convincing election. Does he to have give away as much as he was going to give away then when he was at the table with the republicans earlier . Well, i dont know specifically what was in that give away, but he didnt get the tax revenue he wanted then which is why he and boehner walked away from the deal. If he gets significant or enough tax revenue, then i think hes willing to deal. I suspect hes going to do something that his base isnt going to be entirely happy with, but you know thats the old adage in washington, if nobodys happy, then it must be a fairly good deal. There will be a lot of wreckage after this deal is made. I wonder, though, after meeting with progressives and after getting constantly reminded that theyre the ones, the coalition of the latinos young people and africanamerican voters, that coalition has been very, very vocal and president obama has to know that theyre going to try to keep his feet to the fire as much as possible. If there is some sort of entitlement reform, i think its probably only the nibbling around the edges tightening up regulation. I dont think theres going to be any hike over the qualifying aids for Social Security or qualifications for medicate or anything like that. I think its probably going to be in the waste and abuse category and not sweeping reforms. That may have been the mat at youration of this whole process from the summer. We have filibuster reform being talked about. It opened the Senate Session today. Heres Mitch Mcconnell talking about the filibuster. Lets be clear. The rule changed being proposed is not an affront to me or the Republican Party. Its an affront to the american people. Its an effort, an affront to the people who sent me on the other 46 republicans here to represent them in the senate, but whose voices would be shut out if this majority leader and shortsight Senate Sophomores would have their way and permanently change this body. Short sighted sophomores. Mitch mccondition necessarily is going to have to be onboard. Is this a perry blow with the harry reid . The democratics, if they change the rules, can do it with 51 votes, so he doesnt have to be onboard but look, theyre not talking about stripping the minority of the right to filibuster. Theyre talking about instead of saying oh, im going to filibuster and everything comes to a stand still that you actually have a and up and filibuster, that people would have to take the floor and read the phone book. I dont see anything wrong with that. There are a couple of proposals out there nothing that significantly reduces the power of the filibuster, harry reid read has experienced 385 filibusters during his time at senate leader. Lyndon johnson faced one filibuster. It is overused and abused, and so i think mcconnell better get over it. It seems like hes going to have to. It seems hes almost resigned to be in the minority for a very, very long time. Thats the behavior and demeanor of someone who is going to be in the minority. We almost got through the fill buster without mentioning mr. Smith goes to washington, but i just blew it. Sorry. Thank you for being on the war room. Joe williams will stay with us and well have fun. Coming up, the sports metaphors will fly when we conduct our war room fantasy draft for the next cab knelt. You heard me right. Its a lot more fun than it sounded. Julian bond enters the war room. Voter suppression is not going away if youre reading the newspapers. If Michele Bachmann won the straw poll, why do we need a straw poll . Ill take a look at the situation, which is a mistake in the first place. Were just getting started. Stick around. I think that the audience gets that this guy, to the best of his ability, is trying to look out for us. You see grandma lives waaaay down here and you live way up here. Brian, your cousin, hes a little bit older than you, he lives here, in chicago. And your aunt lisa lives here, in baltimore. Uncle earnie . Waaay out in hawaii. But dont you worry, we will always be together for christmas. [ male announcer ] being together is the best part of the holidays and cheerios is happy to be part of the family. You just ate dallas right by those who gave their lives to for this country nearly 70 years ago. Youre back inside the war room. Im michael shureer. John mccain has been leading a republican attack on u. N. Ambassador susan rice. They claim rice who might be the next secretary of state purposely misled the American Public about the attack in benghazi. That led to four americans including am bass door, dead. He realized that his baseless attacks made him seemed like a crazy old coot. Hes agreed to meet rice facetoface tomorrow in d. C. She will talk to other detractors. Some current cabinet members like Timothy Geithner said they will soon be leaving. In tonights political round table, we will draft our fantasy choices for these slots. Here to play, joe williams. Weve never played before, comes to us from washington d. C. Joining me here is christine the chair of the California Democratic party womens caucus. We begin with secretary of state. Your fantasy choice is Samantha Powers christine yourself is chuck hagel and mine is james cunningham. Why do you pick power . If were doing a fantasy draft, you want somebody that goes hard to the left. Weve had enough who go to the right. Basically, Samantha Power has strong Credibility International credibility against genocide, womens rights and middle eastern issues. Thats something the Administration Needs sorely. Weve seen a lot of stuff going on in the middle east, especially surrounding the role of women and how women can be developed. Shes a very strong anti genocide advocate. Thats something a lot of actors in Hollywood Ben affleck and George Clooney have spoken out about but we have not seen a lot of action out of the obama administration. She can bring that to the fore, and get some stuff done. I dont know how hes a champion citing ben affleck. [ laughter ] minus three points, exactly. Talk to me about chuck hagel. First we have to start with susan rice. If she can handle the united nations, maybe she can handle the United States states senate. She does go hard left. Thats exactly why the republicans fear her. She is still my first choice. I would pick tim romer or dick lugar. Youve got bipartisan ship, somebody a lot of people could work with, including then senator obama who traveled around the world with him talking about nuclear disarmament. I think that is someone the president is comfortable with and the senators will be comfortable with. I think thats very important if were going to retake the center. If you cant get susan right one of the hoosiers. One of the hoosiers wins. Every fantasy draft every cabinet fantasy draft is talking about the hoosier twins. I say james cunningham, the ambassador to iraq, was to israel. James cunningham. Susan rice, from fantasy to reality, i say in reality the likely choice will be susan rice for this job. The secretary of defense you had a hoosier in the secretary of defense. I do see duke lugar here. You think that he will cross the aisle, the president will go for a republican secretary of defense . He could go for olympia snow, who was on the intelligence committee. You could put snow over at defense. I think john kerry has a strong case to make for defense. Putting a republican, it works with bob gates it could work again. William cohen too. Absolutely. Bob kerry for you joe tell me about bob kerry. He lost in the senate race. They owe him a favor . They owe him big time. If indiana is going to be the bread basket of the cabinet members, i say lets go outside that particular box. Bob kerry of nebraska, war veteran, knows what its like to be in combat, kind of an innovative thinker president of the new school in new york, very creative outside the box kind of guy to the point you dont know exactly what hes going to say. Whats not to like about a wacky secretary of defense. He could be somebody who is he is a serious ideas guy Someone Congress can respect because they know him. He served in the Congress Many decades. He also is very good credibility on military. And somebody who could talk credibly about the weapons system that we need and dont need and convince congress to go along with some of these cuts. Joe makes a very good argument. Hes the first term in the history of television to say bread basket of the cabinet. My choice, because of preparedness, et cetera. I think panetta isnt going to go anywhere anytime soon. Very quickly treasury. Joe said paul krugman you said sheila bair. Barney frank would be mine, send him back to the political world in a role thats important. Would make republicans continuing to see him at treasury. I dont know that hed get confirmed. On paul krugman . Was right on a lot of things, and in a role on wall street in the great recession. She will give the king to the kingdom, very solid adult during the financial crisis, helped pull back from the brink. She is not used to being in the spot light. Thats a good thing. For certain cabinet members you dont want them on the t. V. Circuit so must have. You want them doing the workday to day with the american people. Sanberg is another one shed be good too. I think it takes a woman. Absolutely. Weve seen that theme. You know, i said that barney frank, but i think jack lew is going to do it. Another game, chief of staff. Tony veragosa. Joe said deval patrick. I said the u. S. Attorney in new york. I actually think in the end eric holder is going to stick around. I dont think hes going anywhere right now. This of course should be a guide for your own draft that im sure is coming up in your own home. Joe williams, thank you so much for being here, christine pelosi, thank you for coming in and playing. Its a little silly. We are fighting for the right for all americans to vote, not so silly. Well that you be and much more with former get irresistibly clean and fresh carpets in your home with resolve deep clean powder. The moist powder removes three times more dirt than vacuuming alone while neutralizing odors for a clean you can see, smell and really enjoy. Dont just vacuum clean. Resolve clean. We have a big, big hour and the i. Q. Will go way up. How are you ever going to solve the problem if you dont look at all of the pieces . Tv and radio talk show host Stephanie Miller rounds out currents morning news block. Youre welcome current tv audience for the visual candy. Sharp tongue, quick whit and above all, politically direct. You just think there is no low they wont go to. Oh, no. If al gores watching today. Just 16 days since Election Officials called the state of florida for president obama and republicans there are starting to reveal the dirty tricks they placed. Charlie crist told the Palm Beach Post that there was a coordinated effort by governor rick scott and others to suppress the democratic vote. Former florida Republican Party chairman jim gear said at said even as it becomes clear the voter discrimination is still a very real problem in parts of this country. The Supreme Court will hear arguments about getting rid of section five of the voting lights act of 1965. The act signed by president johnson said areas with a history of discrimination must get approval for any new voting laws. Nine Southern States plus counties in new york, and michigan fall under its jurisdiction. In the case, Shelby County v. Holder, one alabama county is challenging the law saying it unfairly targets their state. Six other signed on. Joining me now to discuss is julian bond, the former chairman of the naacp and instrumental in helping get that law passed. It is my absolutely pleasure to welcome you inside the war room. My great pleasure to be here. Thank you. It has to be surreal to you just sitting here listening to a conversation almost 50 years hence about the Voting Rights act, that in fact people are trying to strip part of the Voting Rights act. How does that make you feel sitting here . A little more than sad, such a great struggle to win the Voting Rights act. It was thought to be the crown jewel of the civil rights movement, the one piece of legislation we could not have done without done enormous good and faces the prospect of being tossed out. Its terrible. What has to happen here . We talk about, you know, the idea that ok, there are some states, different parts of this Voting Rights act that some people in some states seem to think puts an undue burden on them. Its because of the way they behaved in the 1960s that nobody trusted them, you look at the same states in 2012 and the things they are trying to do among other states, especially these states. How important is it to protect this part of the Voting Rights act . Nobody is saying lets get rid of the entire act. Its very important. These are the states that committed the crimes that kept black people from the polls by fair means and fouls did everything they could to keep black people from vote. They have a history of having done so and should expect a history of being told by the federal government that they cant do it anymore. Chief Justice John Roberts talking about the role of the courts in this, we dont have a tape of it. Things have changed in the south. Julian, can you respond to what the chief justice it is. Im holding in my hand a list 16 pages of 102 examples of alabama being told that it cant do the things it said, 102 times since the Voting Rights act became law alabama has had to be told by the department of justice that it has behaved badly, discriminated against people of color and it needs to stop it. Justice roberts is apparently not familiar with this, doesnt know the vast record the congress apassed the last time the Voting Rights act was extended. I hope he learns about it before this case comes to trial in this courtroom. Those are the kind of things that hes going to hear. If it comes to the courtroom in a way is there a benefit to have it make it to the Supreme Court so americans can once again be reminded of the importance of this act. You like to hope. This is very much like the health act. The question is here not whether or not the act ought to do these things but whether congress had the power to do these things. The question with the health act was whether or not congress had the right to mandate a Health Policy for the whole United States. Justice roberts voted yes then, lets hope he votes yes now and takes the four votes he brought with him with him. Thats what we talked about so much during the election to why you vote for a president even if youre not thrilled with him. The president is the only person who can leave an indelible footprint with the Supreme Court justice. If this makes it to the Supreme Court, what kind of backing do you think something that is going to strip the Voting Rights act of some of its power is going to have. Wheres is going to come from, governors . People . Well, it culls from the power to strip the Voting Rights act comes from other states. All the states in the south that have been subject to it and states in the north who are sympathetic to them and want to help them along. If it turns out that the Voting Rights act is thrown out because it only affects a few states, lets have it cover all the states. We now see in the most recent election that it isnt just the Southern States that try to suppress black votes, on its others that admit they did all they could just as florida has done to keep black voters from voting. That ought to be criminal in every state. The more i listen to you talk about this, the more it seems to me as ive thought all year long that this is again a cure in search of a disease. You know, i understand, i mean, im not talking about the act. Im saying these people are trying to put those voter i. D. Laws in and trying to strip something from the Voting Rights act. How does that get communicated . You had the movement in the 60s. You had people in the south people marching. What has to happen now . You have to have the same kind of uproar, the people power that created some of the United States for the Voting Rights act, the same kind of activity, the same kind of concern from people not just southerners or black people, but all americans when people are denied the right to vote. We rose in an unroar then, we need to rise in an uproar now. If this act is thrown out, were the poorer country for it and our people will suffer because of it. We are a Richer Country because of people like you and so many of your cohorts who fought so many years ago. Its up to us now to continue that fight. Were privileged to have had you on the show, julian. Up next after winning a couple of huge victories gay Rights Groups now have a new foe to deal with, and that foe is complacency. Thanksgiving is over. Fox news has to turn offer the game, get up off the couch and go pull out all of t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t and youre back inside the war room. The election may be over, but the fight for Marriage Equality is not. Voters in maryland, Washington State and maine approved same sex marriage measures and minnesota, a ban on these unions was rejected. It is allowed in six other states plus washington d. C. The Supreme Court and state legislatures will also take up the issue and now the Human Rights Campaign. The nations largest Human Rights Group is running a quarter Million Dollars ad, hoping to enfluence the outcome. Its the dawn of a new day. Freedom, justice and Human Dignity have always guided our journey toward a more perfect union. Now across our country, we are standing together for the right of gay and lesbian americans to marry the person they love. Of course that was mar gone freemans voice. I think he could get me to do anything he wanted with that voice. Joining me now is fred gains welcome inside the war room, fred. I want to ask you fred, i want to play a little more of this ad now and ask you about it. With historic victories or marriage, weve delivered a mandate for full equality. The wind is at our back, but our journey has just begun. I want to ask about the wind being at your back. Do you feel that now, do you feel that after this election that the wind is finally at your back . I know a lot of people i speak to. Its only anecdotal but a lot of people feel this is inevitable and this is what america is going to look like. There is two ways basically to answer the question. Weve come an awful long way in the 44 years since stonewall right, but really, the hard work the hard miles are still ahead of us, in spite of the fact that we have Marriage Equality in nine states and the district of columbia, the truth is you can still be fired based on your Sexual Orientation or gender identity. There is really sparse relationship recognition or the recognition of gay and lesbian families across this country. So while we definitely have amazing victories to celebrate coming out of election day this year, the truth is that we have an awful long journey ahead of us. The one point i would definitely agree with you and i think there is absolute evidence of this fact is that really Marriage Equality, it is a question of when and no longer if in this country. Yeah, and thats what i feel, but, you know, i cant help but think we just had julian bond on the show, he was fighting 50 years ago for the right to vote and here they are the Supreme Court hearing that. I understand when you say the fight goes on, we have to keep going and look for all the different protections we can find. When it comes to gay rights, though, you have an entire other party like the civil rights marchers did to convince on the other side. Do you see any movement at all . Do you see republicans as you were once a republican. I wish i was a republican once. It must be so much fun to say that you left the Republican Party over an issue especially over this issue. Do you feel some people in your former party are going to start coming around to this . It seems like that has to happen in order for it to become the extreme. I think its important to distinct between Party Leadership and mainstream republicans. I feel the Republican Party left me. I didnt feel like i left the Republican Party behind. I also think its important to extinguishdistinguish between every day republicans and the hierarchy party. There are very few ideological differences on Marriage Equality. All walks of life view it as a fundamental issue of basic fairness and integrity that basically all americans should be treated the same way. The problem michael is that that message has not yet reached capitol hill. That beautiful building behind me, the Republican Party leadership has not gotten the memo that its own mainstream across this country have really come to accept the basic premise that all americans should be treated equally. I think the unfortunate reality is that until the Party Leadership understands that thats the way in which all americans are headed, and especially younger americans and women the future of that party, i think the Republican Party is really going to be left behind on this issue. Yeah, i mean i have to agree with you. I want to look at the Human Rights Campaign and what they gave to candidates this year. Of course, candidates that are going to help support their agenda this sort of progressive civil rights agenda, and its this year they contributed 695,000 to democrats and just 17,000 to republicans. Do you sort of see a day coming where there are republicans that you are going to be jumping behind to give money to . Yeah, i mean, look, we fight for the day when the issue of lesbian, gay buy sexual and transgender rights are not divided by party affiliation. We look forward to the day when really, there is absolutely no difference in between the two mitt well parties on the very simple and straight forward notion that all americans irrespective of their Sexual Orientation or sexual identify should be treated equally. Thats among the american values. Its not a republican or conservative value its really a value that all of us should agree on. Yes, we are, you know, we really look forward to the day when those numbers can be completely different, and when we get to support candidates from all Political Parties and persuasions that are really supportive of our issues. Yeah, i would suspect by the time those numbers are completely different and turned around one wont need the Human Rights Campaign anymore. Thanks for being with us, the Human Rights Campaign. A time of year when we all rub our eyes in disbelief i guess continue running our ice. Everything we see hear, smell or touch will have christmas written all over it, and yet fox news will tell us that somehow christmas is the endangered speaks cease of holidays. That story is next right here in the war room. You know who is coming on to me now . You know the kind of guys that do reverse mortgage commercials . Those types are coming on to me all the time now. Laughing and the thinkers thinking. Ok, so theres wiggle room in the ten commandments, thats what youre saying. You would rather deal with ahmadinejad than me. Absolutely. And so would mitt romney. vo shes joy behar. And the best part is that current will let me say anything. What the hell were they thinking . Before the sneeze, help protect with a spray. Before the tissue, help defend with a wipe. Before the cold flu season help prevent with lysol. Because when you have 10 times more protection with each hand wash. And kill 99. 9 of germs around the house with each spray. Those Healthy Habits start to add up. This season, a good offense is the best defense and lysol has your family covered because thats our mission for health. Youre energized the war room. We dont like war but we do like anything that uses war terminology especially when it comes to politics or craziness. First up, the war on christmas. The fox nation site already that its war on christmas section in fighting shape. Headlines like a gender neutral christmas . A swedish toys are us store are trying to be gender neutral showing a boy playing with a doll and a girl a toy gun. Oh my god how will we survive . I guess this is news because scandinavia is so close to the north pole and santa claus lives there and a traditional marriage with a man woman and some elves. You can click over to the fox news opinion section with news on the war on people like me, men, the author of how to choose a husband explains this battle of the sexes. If men today are slackers and retreating from marriage en masse id like to call a truce on both a very real war on women and this very odd war on men. After all, this is a Holiday Season when all genders and people should come together to celebrate life and plat our attack on santa. We turn to media matters senior fellow coming to us tonight from new york city. Eric, welcome back inside the the war room. Thanks for having me. Eric, fox news just, they are at christmas time the gift that keeps on giving. Do they what kind of currency do they get out of the war on christmas . Whos that resonating with at this point . Yeah, it seems to have diminishing returns. Bill oreilly really started this almost a decade ago. Back then, they could actually find 10 or 15 news clippings from the United States. They didnt have to go to scandinavian catalog where there was debate about the role of government and christmas displays and were Public Schools going to be putting on religious pageants and things like that. Most of that controversy has evaporated. Every year, they have fewer and fewer actual news clip to say rally around, but theyre determined. Look, this is part of the war culture that they have, you know democrats liberals are secularists, trying to drive religion out of the american life. We dont know what religion obama is, christian muslim. As you pointed out with your examples theres no theyre there, but they feel they to have fill the hours with something p. M. Theyve got their christmas ornaments packed away, they have to make good with what they have. Of course, they cant blame everything on barack obama so they have to go in another direction when it comes to christmas. You know. Yeah, go ahead. I was just going to say there is an interesting debate about the role christmas has in our culture now and the corps rottization of it and the fact that big business that sort of turned it into a consumer extravaganza. On thanksgiving, lots of retail workers were forced to work on a family holiday. Theres a logical place you can take this discussion, but fox news cant attack big business. It cant attack corporate culture, so its got to be somehow democrats are ruining the holiday. I was going to say its sort of war on exploitation that other people should be having against those people. Thats not going to happen. Thats not what fax is after. Fox loves war of any kind. Today, rich was talking. For 90 seconds. It was a big i promise youre going to be on this show longer than he. Lets watch. When i see this focus on what was essentially a small firefight, its impossible to figure out what happens in them sometimes. Second, i think that the emphasis on benghazi has been extremely political partly because fox was operating as a wing of the Republican Party. All right tom ricks thanks very much for joining us today. That was fantastic. Im almost tempted to do that as a gag with you but im not going to. It was a short interview, also a very serious thing. He comes on there and he tells the truth to fox news, who has no interest in the truth. When will the back lash come to fox news. Do you have any idea if it will come and if so, when . I mean, theyve got a dedicated audience, two or 3 Million People are going to watch whatever lies they tell. This was very telling the fox bubble being punctured. If you watch fox news, 90 of their guests are on staff. Even the people who come in to talk about military or politics, everyone knows what everyones going to say. This was very rare, they sort of leeched out to a Pulitzer Prize winning journalist and he told the truth said fox hob hyping the benghazi story politicizing it and was a wing of the Republican Party. He just had the guts to do it on fox news. Once someone tell little the truth on fox news, your interview is over and as tom ricks told the New York Times a fox news staffer told him he had been rude afterwards. So this is what happens when the fox bubble gets punctured by someone of National Stature a National Security expert who called fox news out for this benghazi madness theyve pushed for 10 weeks now. It was so much fun to watch it. I understand when you get the kind of predictions like dick morris gives you youre going to have to pay for information like that. I totally understand where theyre coming from. You hear him go to the New York Times. Does fox ever answer to these events or incidents . No, there was no comment today. I guarantee with you there will be no mention of this ever on fox news. It was flushed down the memory hole. It never happened. Everyone saw it, and everyone commented on it, and its about time more and more high profile journalists have the nerve to say that fox news is operating as an arm of the Republican Party and this benghazi madness is disgraceful what fox has done to a very important issue. Eric puller, thank you for coming in here. We will always be patient with the truth in the war room. Thanks again from new york. Up next, the in straw poll. It has a long history of embarrassing the Republican Party, but then again so do a lot of things. Right after the break. And good luck. nrrenttv