Good evening assistant director of public programs. And it is my pleasure to welcome you here tonight to our program entitled historically speaking, songs that shook the planet. A conversation with chuck d. It is wonderful to welcome chuck tebow to the museum which he is championed over the years with support. He has contributed collections and ideas about the role of hip hop in Building Social consciences. He is contributed to the smithsonian. Serving on this project executive committee. Checked he is founder, cofounder of public enemy writing the lyrics behind the ear and told behind the anthem five the power, bring the noise and a state of the union while establishing a new voice of black centers activism. Chuck d is a rock and roll hall of fame and dr. E, Lifetime Achievement award winner, one of ssls top 20 emcees of all times a bestselling author and a member of the library of congress. And has audible. Com release entitled songs that shook the planet hip hops trustee takes listeners off on a journey along has path as the music and invader. If you can order your copies of this recording at audible. Com. Hes going to be joined by to talk to call these from the National Museum of American History and culture tiffany bernstein, Museum Specialist worked closely with owners and colleagues to build collections and develop exhibitions and programs that offer complex representations of history and cultural expressions. For her background includes Territorial Research and collecting archival work collections management and program production. Timothy contributed to multiple and grow exhibitions including musical crossroads. She serves on the International Committee for the study of popular music and was a contributor to the smiths those and smithsonian anthology of hiphop and rap. Also joining us is associate director for Territorial Affairs at the smithsonian National Museum of africanAmerican History and culture. Im on the exhibitions stance musical crossroads. An overview of 400 years of africanamerican music making. From the time when the first enslaved africans were going were brought to the americas to the present. Through the exhibitions, 345 objects have grown of lot. Visitors have encountered stories that explore the creation, dissemination and reception of a rich tapestry of music creativity. Dr. Reese is an editor and contributor a multimedia collection chronicling the growth of music and culture that was produced jointly with smithsonian records and which will be available for purchase this evening in the museum shop at the close of this program. Please join me in a while baucom for our wonderful panelists and thank you for coming. [applause] , and to those of you in the virtual audience hello to you too. We are here to celebrate june as black music month and to talk about chuck ds latest project. Songs that shook the planet. It was a great listen for me going back in time and i loved the talk context. We will talk a little bit about that. I think overall the project really speaks volumes to the power of music. Both personally and politically, particularly people of african dissent how it has been the voice since the very beginning, since the first enslaved people were brought here to the shores. So, we are happy here to have this opportunity to have this conversation with you. Chuck d has a tight schedule so we are going to end exactly at 8 00 we will have time for a few questions. Just keep that in mind, that we are going to stay on time, right . Its good to be here between my two bosses. The reason i say that quite, you know, so essentially because timothy showed met the this building when it was cardboard in my piece of dirt and from that inception got involved with seeing the making of this building, the program and everything from the blueprint to the agenda. And that was basically like the mover and shaker and the one that pushes the buttons and tells you yes or no. And that no had base. So thats what i mean by i am between my two bosses as far as this building is concerned and also Oprah Winfrey theater who is another boss. It feels were good to be back in this building and to talk about the songs that shook the planet which is a wonderful project but just because its audible and these Companies Might feel like they have kind of like authorities who have the songs in their podcasts and their programs and their story it doesnt mean that anything else in the world owns these songs. We, as the people, have ownership into these socks. These are the songs that i thought shook the planet. I would also save as a disclaimer to this whole program, we are in the streaming ipod casting generation of gadgets or everybody is a and asking what a top 20 is when you would have 3000 songs at your access is crazy. Now, we can listen to songs by the pressing of a button were back in the day you kind of had to wait until a song was played on the radio. Or you had to wait until you got home to take the record and played on the turntable. Or maybe later on take the cassette that you taped off the radio and play it on a cassette box. Cds, some of yall grew into that and sometimes you would carry a cd disk with you. When you were able to burn your own cities, i could go to cvs and get eight cities eight cds. Now you have people in the next two generations how oldschool burning cds or technology always rules the roost. The further we have gone on in time is that people have access to a lot of songs in a short span of time. Coming up with their top 10 is a difficult thing when you know you can touch 100, 200 songs real easy. And you can carry them with you. I remember when i was going to school and i was thinking of a song and i would be on the school bus and thinking of the sock and thats one song staying in my head the whole day. Its different now because when you want to think about a song, you can hear a song as a matter of fact not even think about a song you can see us on because today people listen with their eyes. That is a great segue into something i think is a beautiful connection to the territorial work we do here and kind of idea of storytelling. In this case using a sock kind of as artifacts in a way. A sock as an artifact . Were you explore each song and so the connections are really interesting. I am curious giv given all of your experience how you got interested in this in the first place. And do something that is strictly audio. The interest is the project because the whole world of hiphop is based on the mastery of records, understanding records. You did it just go in and make a sound. The sound came from somewhere so the best archivist especially in their early years of hiphop so the years from 1975 to 1990, every dj seemed to know a little bit more the uneven people on the radio to because they would dig for records. Thats why they would put the records inside the crates. Sometimes they would scrape of the label and to the producers and of the songwriters so nobody else would that record. But before they even scripted off they knew how did that record. People knew bands and the players especially in the dmv area, you know the players. Everybody has their instrument. Groups come into town and they would play at the Capital Center to what they call the mci. I dont know what youll call it today. I cant keep up with that either dont worry about it. People knew, not only the musicians but they knew the engineers, the studio, the Recording Companies sound and they knew the artist. When it came to enter the artist, the artist could not to art and a betty duke where the artist was coming from. You knew what Curtis Mayfield was going to deliver. You knew what Stevie Wonder was going to deliver. People knew motown stocks, atlantic. In jazz from clues to rock n roll. The average person listened, you know, and listened and imagined with their ears and in their minds and when you were able to see something be it a bit american bandstand saul tran, hullabaloo all of these places you can see on youtube now you were able to see the artists you could see and imagine. People felt music. It wasnt just hearing music. People saw artists in concert. That was what they were able to match their imagination from what they heard to what they were seeing. Usually concert bands played faster because everyone is hyped. They would play like five beats per minute faster. On radio thats like that funky, you know 96 beat per minute groove and live there at 105 like a disco record. So that was the importance of the dj, being able to curate and say this is what this is and this is what this aint. That was definitely a beautiful time for a. Were djs for our best curators. I dont just mean the ones on radio, the ones off radio. We will talk about the anthology project. A lot of, you know the widespread knowledge about the dj and at element. Im not sure how all not that duration, the knowledge that the general public knows. It strikes me as something else, that history. It gets for granted. Its not just being a dj and scratching. The knowledge, the information is really critical to hiphop. It strikes me that different popular stories we tell how often we struggle to remember that hiphop is part of history. It is a continuation and even from the getgo it was infused with the richness and substance. It makes people sure that they remember that. What hiphop arcs in a sense of melody and harmony except for in it since of reminder especially in the early days when it would make up for a lack of its melody. They are not singing but you know what, Everything Else about the groove and how they rocket is taking you back to the original source anyway when kanye west was able to do has song and it was based on, you know, otis redding. People are like, well. Early hiphop artists became quite introductions at anybody that says hiphop is to itself is making a gross mistake. No, im in, hiphop comes out of these genres that you need to Pay Attention to. It is not this thing that you move onto hiphop and forget Everything Else. It should bring you closer. That is the beauty. That is what locks into what this museum is doing, what other sonic reasons are doing. You know, the music automatically is like tree lines. You follow the music, you will get history by default. For black folk, we were disenfranchised and separated from speaking our mind in this society. All you have to do is follow the music. The music is code. With the music code, you can follow a trail and if artists going back almost two before 1900. We have an absolute beginning to recorded music. The first record, or the first recording of sound in music, you have to point to thomas edison. Mary had a little lamb was the first song on his apparatus or his invention. Just because he made the gadget doesnt mean he owns the music. He aint make the music. He aint make park music. Black music. People get tripped up or think they have followers out there. No, you dont have any followers. Twitter has followers. Instagram has followers. Facebook has followers, unfortunately. You dont have a follow forth. The same thing with selling records. Companies excel records. General life. Dad dead or alive. However has the mentality of thinking they on the music says that you have to separate the difference. If i had to come up with the socks that shook the planet im going intrinsic to the soul of what people felt. I wish i could name more songs i could have put 6000 to put people to sleep. I meet them up off the top of my head and also top of your head is good if you do the research. Dont rely on the gadget. Its almost like telling you can you get from a to b without using the gps per you have to Pay Attention to landmarks. Just because you have a Search Engine doesnt mean you now, do you know how to search . Do you know what to search for first . Hopefully people can come up with their on choices, their own chart. We talked about this earlier. It was like ok why do you have one woman out of all of your socks . I did i said that. I said it just happen to be that way. If i had to name saltandpepp a named each one of them i can go on and on aretha franklin, of course is easy for everybody and i could have made 100 songs significant by a woman but that came to me off the top of my head. We had to come up with the project and turn it around quick for black music month. I want to i got away with that right . Im going to talk about that question. I want to talk about something that really excited me because this project is a history. I know this particular they are year i have been going back and looking at the music. I am close to your age. I am thinking about what my parents had, what i was listening to and i feel like i am discovering new things too in the process. I want to talk a little bit about what this was like for you, the research. And im curious did you learn Something Different as you delved into this . You are familiar with this music but the whole history, can you talk a little bit about that . You should always learn something about something. You should read a book 10 years apart. Read it when you are 20, 30, and 40. Read it again when you are 60 and its like oh i didnt pick this up before. I just came from toronto yesterday. I was in los angeles doing the same thing im doing today on wednesday. The difference between the United States and canada, and had to go back to d. C. I felt when i went to canada i got my iq halved. People read around the world. But they comprehend. Once upon a time, they taught reading and comprehension. That is when you are reading and comprehending it and a lot of times you are reading and comprehending it and then you go into practicality. How do i make this work for me . I felt this, its good for me. How to why live this out . Sing from experience, how do i avoid it or use it . Those things are important things to open up listening. Listening is a very important thing, as specially when you are talking about music. But music today is sight, sound, story, and style. I wanted to be able to put a site, sound, story, and style to music i grew up. Of course, the artists that we chose in the 60s and 70s, the technology came up to a point. Musicians came up to a point. Black, white, different races and ethnicities came up to a point with this technology that could record them almost to her it sounded like they were live. And their skill level was high. They were also trying to take each other out playing against each other for being in the same band. , you are not going to cut me. We are going to be in the band and we are going to be nicer somebodys going how. You get that magic in the recordings. You have but to feel a certain way because it deals with vibrations. Understand, these artists would automatically be invited into our households and im growing up and my mom has the record player on. These artists are invited. Aretha franklin, some jazz artists even if they were considered crazy because no one is going to understand at six years old what mingus is saying anyway. But you grow to 20 years later and also this is where curators are important and journalists. You go to appreciators and go wow i didnt know about this. Thats why journalists are important too. Thats almost like people, fight, in any position. You have to take your ego out and you can read about something that somebody worked on for a year because you have four days to work on it. So you have to be fed into the work that went into it. Artists sometimes do music not to be understood in this moment they do it for you to understand in the future. So it brings a stunt to a point where like the biggest question, even with the music Business Today whatever you hear, it might be popular but some artists, especially back in the day they had disable how do you make to be able to say how do you make that . Bob dylan sold less than 80 billion records. Go look at Backstreet Boys masters versus bob dylan. I remember one time i stumbled inside this room and it was bob dylan tapes and miles davis tapes. I was on the wrong floor of this building and they were getting ready to lock my asp up. Ass up. Whenever you base anything on the quantity as opposed to the quality, then you look at music site present at codes off because of the road somewhere. Everything is beautiful in harmony. Youll make things happen. People will bill you. He said thats music talking. Money comes in he said once money comes in god wants out the room. So these people were invited into our households, played very loudly. I try to play with my friends to get away from music because what music meant in my household it meant that you had to do chores. [laughter] and you better not touch that record player either. Even if it is playing the same record over and over again. Palm, would you just change this one record . That was the invite. A lot of it has changed after 1980. R b is not what you think. In this town its reagan and bush. All of a sudden its going to change the attitude of what is coming in. If you dont see it in then is that someone is going to say it somewhere. So thats that. Lets talk a little bit about the audible book. Some of those songs, i think there was one particular pond there was technical insight and aha moment for me. We have living for the city and you were talking about audio street space, and vocal style. For me it was like listening in a different way. As like you say with the book, every time i listened i hear Something Different. I think we just have a clip if we could play it. Created four hours with Stevie Wonder including anna visions, helping create the signature sound that makes up living for the city. And other unique moment, an element of the sock is stevies vocal style. There is a distinct grow in his voice that punctuates the story of a young, naive mississippi kid misadventure after a fresh migration to new york city that ands ends with a 10 year prison sentence. They were trying to make stevie angry on purpose. Several tactics were used during the recording to irritate stevie. They would stop the tape recorder in the middle of a tape. To break his flow and to make him sing local multiple text so that had voice his voice would become horse and they would delay the session so that stevie would get tired and irritated. In the end, they got the result. You could feel the tension and sorrow in his voice as he sinks. Living for the city stevie shows us clocking in at over seven minutes stevie introduces our young hero, has mother and father and his sister. We learned this is a product but loving family has members live in impossible situations. The lyrics highlight the hard Labor Conditions of the soap, lack of proper education and low wages. At the end of every first we are reminded that they are living just enough for the city. When you go back, take a listen with that in mind. I get tired of hearing myself talking. But you are bringing us into your living room. That is the beauty of the project. When i hear myself i have to cancel out things. So, yeah. In this project, it was try to do the audible project. Try to do a vocal rating. Gentoo e clear vocal rating. Do it like you would do in your own voice but less. So it was a lot of words sliding and explored i had some rich work done not too long before that. I cant hear it but it is full of jewels to listen to and people said its fun. I have to give props to the person who helped me cowrite it. She cleaned up the script, did great research, and added it to the research i had done. Things we guessed at aunt script was very important. When they closed the book i was like well this is the age we are at now. I guess gadgets. I would suggest everybody, audibly teach people how to listen again as i could way to look at how we are going to figure things out with the rest of this crazy third decade of the 21st century. I mean like i said not only that we read and comprehend but now we have to learn to listen and comprehend. We have to remember to listen when you talk about the visual and style. Dont get so caught up in ur seeing and focus on what you are hearing. People listen with their eyes. The next, the next two generations will listen with their eyes. There is a game called three card monte. Is it over here, over there . People are duped by this sorcery and at gadgetry is increasing. The minute, especially in this country, anything that you see is suspect. But i wrote a song called dumb believe the hype. [applause] but that is what was coming at you with things that you could pick up or people heard. The biggest difference between now and 1989 as there was a lot of people in the mix. Many of them are no longer here. Also, people in the mix now, many of them wasnt born then. These are different human beings. Thats not being derogatory, thats just how it is. They are programmed and processed differently. What they call music be something people star at her from something from the past. You can take music from 60s, 70s and if you are playing james brown and they start you they just stare. You play some Duke Ellington and that swinging and if they are not like this and they are staring at Duke Ellington, that is another human being. Meaning that an order for you to teach in order for you to know that this is something good, your teaching has to really be thorough on the story. What is the style of it . What did it lead to . When did it disappear . How to pick up on it . How to use it . We were able to do that for 100 some odd years or for oral recording. That period might be over in dead. It might be part of something that is part of a museum. How to listen to something and make it work for your mind. We are in a zone where now maybe we try to see the narrative of what we see. That is also the action of a museum. Come in, you are watching and it is a story that comes and informs you are watching. The same thing has to happen with music. I think that we were able to cover a large piece of earth with the songs that shook the planet, talking of a particular time. I think further things that grow outside of a podcast. We have the term podcast that the average person today has forgotten why it is even even called podcast. Why do you think it is called podcast . Younger people do not know. It is not their fault but they do not know. Older people forgot. It is because of the ipod. Why give apple all the credit . When did you get your iphone . We know the absolute beginning when we started to get iphones and android. These things have been planned long before we became zoomers and just became consumers and just jumped at it. It is almost almost 20 maybe 15 or 16 years of quote on quote smartphones. Artificial intelligence is not getting any dumber. Matter of fact, it will get really smart. Phones are smarter than human beings right now so it is our time to catch up. But the music has code in it. There are a lot of things i need the music that will set you free if you listen to it. Everything the last poet said 50 years ago is applicable until 2025 but you know you have to know what they are saying and do some excavating. I think that is what is so great about this program. We encourage everybody to listen to it. You get to hear chuck walk you through songs and tell stories in a way that only he can. What is so amazing is that you are doing this from the outside looking in. You are also an contributor to this trajectory of social justice and music and songs that shake continuous leave. No one is going to deny open deny that public enemy has become any less relevant today. You are not a scholar outside, orbiting the stuff. You are speaking about things that you also actively participate in. It is a really amazing perspective and we are really grateful that you took time to talk about this and we can all listen to it. Yes, it is like, the thing about these things is documenting with documentation. That is why you are my bosses in this building. [laughter] you do to shut the building down as well like everybody go home at five and we do in the become back the thing again. What i like about you chuck is you are doing this, you are an artist and you are professional but anyone of us could do this too. We have our own histories and songs. I was really listening carefully about this changing nature and listening. It is kind of scary. I wanted to ask you, and im sure you cannot answer, what can you do . With your projects, we have the museum to decode the code and encourage people to engage. To engage beyond the easy, passive being. As the world keeps changing as Technology Gets more and more sophisticated. What are the other things that we can do . I do not want to consider it a lost cause. Number one, if arts and culture, heres the thing about culture, culture brings human beings together, not societal differences. Governments like to split up and divide culture unless we have good people close to governments that keep in check like you guys. It is a fight. When it comes down to School Systems, if you have culture that is not cultivated inside a School System between zero and 20 years old, and what you are doing is letting corporations take over the culture. They are going to sell it to p who have people out there trying to look for themselves but they have to buy it back from sony or whatever company is out there. And increasingly as we are going to the future, we have a war against pods that is trying to get fulfilled. Other countries have figured out, how are we going to teach coulters in the schools, in the curriculums. They have smaller populations than the u. S. , 300 million, and that is why they say we cannot get anything done here. Because there are too many people. Let me tell you this much. China is very nationalist. You may say, oh they are very different and they are controlled but they have a focus of what they need to learn collectively and where they need to make a practice for people to live there particular live. The music, the culture, the spirit, the history, the teacher is all here to be in a School System. It is enjoyable when taught right. The curriculum can be made to be enjoyable. We have pockets that are teaching it and turning sadness into joy. But, if you are not teaching it, and you come in with Everything Else, and about the World Without people even going to the world and only being connected to the world by the wide web, then you are taking the power and the gift that music has an you are not using it where it could be used to grow so many people and make them a part of the world. The rest of the world is already enjoying world already enjoys being fueled by black sick. Black music. I say black music because black people to being was expressing ourselves when we were not allowed to express ourselves. That is why we feel it more than we hear it. We can put all those things in a loop and make it all work and we have something going on. I guess we have the q end right now. That q a right now. I am one of those guys who stays around for three hours and gets kicked out of the building. Unfortunately, going to toronto or another place, i cannot. Dulles is one of the craziest airports. I do not even understand. How is it still there . It is like i am going to mars. The design of the airport is like 1961 and it is like i am going back in time. Unfortunately, i have to deal with dulles. But, i will plan to do this again and i am almost sure that i will be here for what we are going to share in a little bit. Writes. Now that our moderators told us we are accepting questions now. We have a few questions and we are doing good. Here is first question. From our virtual audience, virtual audience member ash. How does chukchi sea hip hop transforming in the next does chuck see hip hop transferring in the next 10 years . Number one, artists need to listen to each other. Number two, if you have any artist in the world, understand the rest of the world as hip hop that is connected to the element. They know the gift of language. When you run to places like it africa, which is the future of the world, they have already been chopping up linguistics. You have african rappers that can break three languages and move the crowd. I am not saying that it is worse here but i am saying it is not taught here. I am going to go out there and do mixed martial arts against somebody out do not leave home and do that. Hip hop is not taught here. Rap is not taught here, it is done here but it is done everywhere in the. We are 50 years in. It is not little boy and little girl music. It is 50 years. You have ogs that have been wrapping so you want to be able to elevate the odds and teach them to everybody. People are like, who are you listening to . Rap stations, and station challenges. We have an old woman station called see movement. We have an international station called planet earth, planet rep. He spent time curating rap music so you do not come away from it stupid. Anything. We cover it. This is why you all probably love sports but you watch espn and every time abc and disney goes like this on sports, you are tuning in and subscribing and all that. We do the same thing with rap music and hiphop because there is a right way and 1000 wrong ways. I do not tell a person how to do their thing because art is inside to how to get the most out of your expression. If you are going to be in front of a crowd and to engage in the sights, be the best that you can be. If you are a martial artist, you have to take martial arts areas sleep. Cannot go out there and say i took one class and go kicking but, do not leave home like that. There is always something to learn. The best teachers learn from students, you know. You also cannot say i am in to hiphop and rap but i will not follow anything else of any of the other music that happened because i am only hiphop and rap. I am like, biggest mistake. You better learn every single music that ever was recorded in order to be the best possible one. I hear people say jc. A lot of of people hide their intelligence and where they come from. Not him but people who hide their intelligence and where they come from, they are really geniuses and it comes out in the wash. Being dumb is not going to help you. I am not saying that to be mean or derogatory. Being dumb means that you are acting dumb, you are acting dumb, you are not really dumb. Second question, another from our virtual audience member. Do you feel streaming has introduced public enemies music to new artists . I have been on 216 countries. Streaming helps. I started out africa. Islam took public enemy to all those places in the world that were taboo. We were able to go to africa and parts of asia and places that nobody else would ever dare to go and we were treated like kings. Now, streaming goes to those places where were they called it black orchid. Black market. I am not just talking black places but places like yugoslavia and the Czech Republic and being able to have your music in serbia and montenegro and poland. Now, streaming goes everywhere. Do i like it as much as going to get a record or getting an even an mp3. I loved when i could download it on my device. I bought it, i want to keep it. Now, i set up my itunes and itunes takes all the stuff i bought back because it is lost in the cloud. We have to try to figure out how to end that uckery. Right now it is really ridiculous. It is almost like a dollar gas. After a while, you start saying i am tired of these high prices robbing me now, even in my culture, my music and my subscription, they cannot figure out how to make it better for my subscription. Everybody is trying to charge me. You wish music was like being there but they have had highway robbery for a long period of time. How much do you pay for a concert, a contemporary concert now . I have heard other people saying they pay 350 for the ticket. I am like really . What did they do . Did they bring you on stage and give you money . Back in the day, this is a bat in the day comment about music and the artists i named. In the 50s and the 60s, you better not play around with black peoples money. Your ass on that stage, you better turn the audience out. They better be like oh my god, that is the greatest thing i ever paid i saw in my life and they only paid five dollars for it. There was one group that was a hot group and they played a show in brooklyn in 1975. A couple members did not show up and they robbed them. They would not let the group leave the building. They said we played our money, you are going to have to get tom, did, and area to get on that stage and play the songs. Today, they are play for five minutes, the tickets were 250 but we were all happy that we were there. [laughter] that is the biggest difference with between before. It is like now, we have to tell audiences that if you are in a audience, at least the audience awedience. Audiences should always be awestruck. They should look at a stage and say you know what, i cannot do that. But, you do the same thing with sports. You look at sports and say they suck. The wizards suck. But the closer you get to that court, you reach in your pocket and spend money and start looking at that like ok, they are dope i guess. Yes, they are doper then you. [laughter] you spend all the money, you are not getting on that court, that baseball field or the ballfield. You are a sand, going to be a fan and nothing but a fan until you are the wrong fan and they kick you out. That is how it used to be with music. The closer you get to the stage, it is like you will set youra pop your ass 25 feet away. This is why collecting craft is a beautiful thing. I collected the songs and hopefully people can say it is a b inning and an introduction a beginning and an introduction. That is the biggest difference. The instruction, not the artist. The instruction. We need people to cure instruction. It can start with this museum. Do not just come and check it out. Comprehend it. Copper hand, look, ask, discover. One must question. I am keeping track of time. We are doing ok. You have your own plane right . [laughter] this is an easy one i think. What are you working on . What is next . What is inspiring you and where are you going . Pull out the app rstvapp. Com. It is easier than explaining. That is wonderful. It is to teach a 10 week course at ucla on rap, race reality and technology. I am a Rapid Service person. That is my music, the genre, the craft. I am a Service Person for culture. And i just tried to make it better and thorough. I think beauty and grace is something that a lot of us can have. When it comes down to teaching. People just call music whatever it is but also we have to be like, ok, this can be whatever but keep that to these keep it on wax and keep it on whatever. Do not make the stage the outside world more than it is on what you do. You are what you do. That this rap sticks is a good start where you can find things out. We have curated and broke we have really broke 500,000 songs over 13 years. And 50,000 artists. A lot of them are thankful for it and we are thankful for them to be on there and to have the gift of moving their music. I am not the person that does not like to hang around but trust me, i have to do this or i will pay the price. Lets we want to thank you for being here. We have a little what i would like to end on is if you could just say a few words about the anthology be released last august and the impact of having Something Like that from the smithsonian . Just tied to it this conversation about education. The big book . Yes, this big, heavy book is for sale in the museum store. There is a limited number of signed copies by chuck d available after this. I also want to give you your moment too. The ability would not resist exist without chuck. This goes back to a conversation that he and i had in 20 that led to this becoming an reality in 2013 that led to this becoming a reality. Many people were. Lonnie, the museum, yourself. A lot of people came into play. At the end of the day, you need a lot of different voices to make sure you document at least a starting point for what hiphop is into cover that first 50 years thoroughly. Just like you read any other book that you are reading that you want to have a discussion on. This has got to be beyond a barbershop. The barbershop has what they call what you put in bright, used. East puffs up yeast puffs of the story. Need to not freestyle mythology. You need facts. Facts can be worked on. That is what the book does. I am not the register of any of it. I am just a beginning of the creation but it is law is a lot cheaper than your average rubes average groups concert. I can tell you that. [laughter] it is a good start because there are a lot of people out there, and whole lot of things. Let me tell you this much. Espn. I am going to name them. They are going to allow you to be stupid on sports they will not allow you to be stupid on sports, and we are in a sports town. Imagine you here somebody and this person sounds crazy because he does not know or she does not know what they are talking about. What happens . Tell the person to move away from the tv. Tell the person to leave the club because there are talking crazy. We are not going to get that crazy because this is a gun toting nation. But we are saying that with sports you are thoroughly knowledgeable because they show it over and over and over again with analysts and exball players. This country is smart on sports but stupid on music. Before the djs on the radio use to break everything down but over the last 40 years, corporations took it over and the first thing they said, especially in new york is soandso, soandso more music, less talk. But you kind of need somebody to talk you along and let you know what you are listening to. Remember the cd era when people had both cds and would say, i like track nine and nobody cared about the title. Track six. Now, it is like give me a top five of the last month and nobody ever house one. They forgot. Not to say the song is whack but to say that the lifespan of a song attached to your memory is that of a mosquito. You know what im saying . That is intentionally done. It is not even your fault, it is already made like that. The other day, i said what do you think a song in the last five years that she felt that you need to be embedded in your head . That you need to go on . That is why when Kendrick Lamar came out he was refreshing and generation. He had some joints in there. But also, the song that he did when he was doing missys verses, people did not get it until they saw the video. People were listening with their eyes. It was the video that turned them out. Later, they had the lyrics and all the paradoxes and stuff like that. It might not be a thoroughfare like that for everybody but it was helpful. Sites, stories, sounds, and styles. This book is a great introduction to be able to say this is where it came from and now i can follow where it is going. When you take the voices out of black music on the radio, you are going to have everybody going solo for dolo, trying to figure it out for themselves. We say that we love hip hop, you might actually have questions about it. You get all of them wrong and then you say what does it mean anyway . I am not trying to be on jeopardy. [laughter] that is you trying to get out the door. It is not like i am the master said say here but anything that you say that you love, you should know thoroughly about. Alright, i dont know about a tesla by have one. People are light, all i want to do is drive it. We are in that era right now. And it comes down to culture, we can at least know about it before we say we did it and love it. It is not a requirement but a good way to start to bring us together for the love of the gift of music. With those last words, i think we are going to end tonights program. Timothy, do you want to say a few words of what is coming up this summer . I will give my email address because usually i give out cards and shake hands into elbows and all that. My email is simple. Chuckd channelzero. Net. You can catch me on twitter c huckd. My daughter runs my instagram. I dont go on instagram. I am not on anything that Mark Zuckerberg has. I dont know if he owns this building. [laughter] as i go on facebook or instagram. I have them though. I go on twitter to give point of view and my artwork. Again, we were talking earlier and it is almost six years to the day that chuck came in for a hard hat tour of this building. Then, fastforward a little while later and public enemy was performing on the National Mall for the very first time with the use them opens. If you are not familiar with the building, you can find public enemys history upstairs and in musical crossroads as well. We are really six years. Right out there in front of the wash to monuments. Yes. It was a time. It was a different country, wasnt it . In that same vein, you are getting the inside scoop this evening. We are about to announce that we are going to celebrate the anniversary of the hip hop anthology and kick off a year of celebration of hip hops 50th year with Museum Block Party on august 13, saturday. We are going to literally close down madison drive and build a stage outdoors you all. It will be free, all day. There will be a lot of elements of it that will be rolled out. I encourage you to stay tuned for more information. The museum will share this for real for real on monday august 13, pencil in 12 00midnight. Noon to midnight. We hope to see you there. He might see some familiar presence faces present. Want to thank you so much for coming out this evening. Thank you so much for the fans watching online as well. There are a few copies of the anthology side upstairs. Encourage you to check those out and chuck just gave you his email. For those of you who want to come back, we do have a page for the anthology on our website. It features stories and other things in the collection. And, a repeat of an exhibition that opened here in 2018, represent. Photography from bill jamies iconography collection that will be here for another year. Early fall. If not tonight, come back this summer and definitely come back in august. We not only have Community Day but we did a special program in new orleans in may working with a center for religion, looking at hip hop and faith. That will be a fascinating discussion that will air on the museum. August 14. The day after the block party. It is going to be a busy weekend. A big thank you to all of you who came in person and all of you at home. Hopefully a couple of my relatives are out there so shout out to you too. A big thanks to one of our best friends and best supporters, chuck d a favorite and lasting memory of my knees shaking her hand at the jerry blossom festival in the spring 1973. Cherry blossom festival in spring 1973. The first lady was taking time with every person she met. She gets up in a very special way, taking my hand and class giving it taking my hand and clasping it between hers. Her eyes met mine and we exchanged a smile
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