Thank you very much. The hearing has reconvened and i want to thank the panel for the work youre doing and your patience and we wanted to hear from the amazing survivors and normally the administration goes first and youre kind for doing that. Two distinguished witnesses with the honorable cindy dire ambassador at large and ambassador do i recollects congratulations and shes a human rights advocate and lawyer with three decades of experience working at local, international and national levs to prevent Human Trafficking, sexual assault, and Domestic Violence and Vice President of Vital Voices Partnership and i would note parenthetically three teresalaura that i went to highl with served on that administration. On issues related to Human Trafficking and prior to that, she served as director of filing and she began as domestic and social environment advocate and she earned bachelors degree from texas a m and masters from baylor law school. That here while deputy administrator and u. S. Agency for International Development, mr. Chairman walsh oversees the bureau for democracy and Innovations Center for democracy and human rights and governance and served in a range of Foreign Policy roles as the u. S. Mission to the un and lead adviser on the process and tourism from the rocket and afghanistan and no easy place to distinguish them at large and more. Thank you, chairman smith, wild, distinguished members of the committee and thank you for allowing us to appear before you today to discuss the United States department of state effort to combat Human Trafficking and thank you for the opportunity to hear the amazing testimony of the panel before me. I hung on every word, the time flew back and it was an honor to listen to them. Thank you for that opportunity. Human trafficking is a crime that exists in every country and affects people of every age, ethnicity and gender which historically and systemically marginalized groups at risk. The last few years particularly challenging as we as you discussed earlier and see new trends in trafficking. The covid19 pandemic, inflation with russias war on ukraine, and disruption by Climate Change and exacerbated entrenched challenges and poverty and heightened job security in many sectors and diminished access to justice and services and disrupted Global Supply chains and contributed to new ways of risking migration. All of these factors and others heightened trafficking around the world and in recent years eve seen increased online recruiting and exploitation of trafficking victims, especially online Sexual Exploitation of children. More forced criminallalty and growing Carbon Monoxide illinois criminality and exploited victims worldwide and the scale of traffic asking vast and the challenge we face immense, but were not helpless. And we have using all the tools at our disposal to face these challenges head on. Today more than ever the United States sustained leadership and commitment to combating Human Trafficking in all forms is critical. During the last year trafficking and persons report launch ceremony, it will continue to take relentless diplomacy, coordination, advocacy and truth to stop . United states is committed to fighting it because trafficking destabilized is undermining economies and harms workers and exploits them and undercuts legitimate businesses and fundamentally and so profoundly wrong and state Department Office of combat trafficking and persons tip office and i have the honor to lead is advancing the United States global efforts to combat Human Trafficking through a three p frame work, the prosecution of traffickers, the protection of victims and the prevention of Human Trafficking. We address the three ps octoberively by analyzing government effort, engaging in strategic bilateral and multilateral diplomacy and foreign governments and Civil Society and advancing federal antitrafficking policies through interagency coordination. Human trafficking outside and advance the fight of Human Trafficking and it is this fourth p for partnership that strengthens the effectiveness of the other three ps in the fight against Human Trafficking. Trafficking response including addressing Human Trafficking in the context of impact of russias war in ukraine, documenting and decrying Human Trafficking in the peoples republic of china, especially specific areas and highlighting cubas coercive export Labor Program and diplomatic engagement with countries hosting these worners to mitigate their exploitation. Engaging with survivors and underserved communities and preventing Human Trafficking in Global Supply chain and in the u. S. Government of goods and services. We too recognize that combating Human Trafficking cannot be done alone. Local government and Civil Society to further advance the trafficking efforts. Thanksto sustained support from congress in particular through the Ground Breaking trafficking victims protection act of 2000 and its subsequent reauthorizations, the department has a well established set of tools to draw upon in the fight against Human Trafficking. For more than 20 years, the trafficking persons report continues to be the worlds most comprehensive resource on governmental antitrafficking effort and is our principle diplomatic tool to guide relations with foreign governments. Our most recent tip report included narratives for 188 countries and territories and it is introduction focused on the engagement of human survivors of trafficking. The tip report is one of the most powerful tools to encourage government around the world to improve their antitrafficking effort. Ensuring it remains accurate, objective and effective among my highest priority for the tip office. Similarly the target u. S. Foreign assistance and we bring to bear and the tip office leveraged 700 million in foreign funding to support nearly 1,000 antitrafficking projects across more than 90 countries to address both sex trafficking and labor trafficking worldwide. Through bilateral projects and innovative programming such adds Child Protection contacts cpc, partnership and the program to end modern slavery. Our Investments Trust worthy produced tangible results. Weave helped thousands of Human Trafficking survivors receive vital assistance and repatuation, psycho repate repatriation and building legal policy and infrastructure caring for victims and bring traffickers to justice. In places where individuals are particularly vulnerable to trafficking such as in southeast and south asia and many parts of africa, our assistance identifying victims of trafficking and ensuring they receive the protection and services they need. Chairman smith and ranking mcellroy wild, thank you for member wild, thank you for holding this hearing as this subcommittee considers legislation for the 118th congress. I look forward to working closely with you and your staff on legislative efforts to reauthorize the International Provisions of the tvpa which remain the cornerstone of the United States global efforts to combat trafficking. Copting to provide the appropriate tool we need to effectively deal with International Challenges today and tomorrow for individuals. Thank you. Thank you, chairman smith and Ranking Member wild and distinguishing members of the subcommittee. Thank you for your leadership on combating today and i just have to acknowledge just so unbelievable and powerful with feeling emotion rising within us feeling inspired by courage and showing more than administration and allowing me to thank the staff at us state and state Department Working on counter trafficking and so smart and so accomplished. But lead with their hearts and have done immense amounts of help against this terrible scourge. In 2001, tvpa and theyve provided traffic assistance in 88 countries and many more Larger Development contribute in one way or another to unpack to the counter trafficking site. In fiscal year 2022, we obligated 32. 5 million and counter activities and thats more than 3 million above our earmark and indicator of how important our missions around the world are very organically considering this work to be. Beyond our direct counter Trafficking Programming, a very large fraction of u. S. And International Development work helps in one way or another. Theyre causing counter trafficking and corruption or poverty or violence. Natural disasters and building capacity and directly relevant to the fight against trafficking. Trouble supporting them with the threats on strong in country presence and allowing us to design effectively monitoring interventions by local context and adaptions to the local context. Counter trafficking work tends to follow and we think in terms of four ps prevention, protection, prosecution and partnership. So just briefly first on prevention, we work to raise awareness of trafficking, particularly with the most vulnerable groups and high Risk Communities by promoting Public Information and education campaigns across source and transit and destination countries for trafficking by way of example in columbia, usa working in very high Risk Communities to protect the rights of venezuelaen migrants vulnerable to trafficking. And this program raising Awareness Among the communities of different methods of exploitation and compliment it with tools like training almost 4,000 Service Providers on how to address trafficking issues, genderbased violence and thats just in the past year. Second on protection, when we think about protecting trafficking survivors, usas approach, states approach also, is survivor centered trauma informed and everything said in the first panel about that resinates deeply with us. We help with the development of antitrust in many countries with real penalties for traffickers and direction. The provide Technical Assistance for a lot enforcement so they are maximally effective way of example for programs across the caribbean region to improve prosecution. Identify and investigate tracking. Theres no way to do this alone across government and Civil Society and faithbased Organization Advocacy organization we are all in it together is an all hands on deck approach. We bring together all of these constituencies to work on the problem which you cant imagine a more honorable population but it is most in the country. To align with National Action plan for Human Trafficking and survivor centered approaches partnering across these groups refer to better coordination within our own government and agency your roles and responsible is for staff and that guide and field guide to help implement and monitor and evaluate programming more effectively but also in effect of the incrementing guidance. Thank you for calling the hearing, we do not have monopoly on good ideas and through the exchange. Thank you for your testimony and leadership. I have a number of questions and hopefully we can do a second round and i can yield to my colleague. In opening, the importance of getting it right, how did we get it so wrong in 2015 and we say who testified at one of the hearings the information provided was right on but when it went up the chain of command for other reasons is associated with Human Trafficking, two or three countries were upgraded to watchlist. Malaysia china, they thought they were going to get in at the time making his way but these are not to speak to emily, is speaking truth to power and honest with so i want to thank carrie because she did a great job and we did lose in the one who broke the story things that changed secretary of state especially but we did this when he wrote the original law especially between what action might be taken, it is an administration call. I hope the wooden but i remember talking to a number of countries and they were angry because they were here three and others wrote it and therefore their records were worse so the argument is against this, its really against what happens when the goods chain of command and i will have them or try to give an accounting for that. Secretary great, i said make the decision and he said the book start with me it shouldnt be that way. They were very involved with Nuclear Negotiations with iran and the United States and partners in europe but i shouldnt give reason to get benefit the same with cuba and i tried to get to cuba and when we look like were moving toward this, he said he got to know deeper you get, thoughts about what human rights is all about but they were elevated as well. We hope the people up the chain of command will realize congress is that of and go where it goes which is an encouragement for you to be a report. Let me also ask if i could, obviously title 42 ending last night, have differences of opinion of what we should do. It established everything we would have mitigated illegal crossings. Chuck schumer botetourt, Hillary Clinton and others on both sides of the aisle and i think we would have a different dynamic today and im all for Legal Immigration and refugees, prosecution getting the help they need but one concern has lost 85000 Migrant Children unaccompanied minors and im wondering last year u. S. Included, it was pointed out our government continued not to mandate screening for adults in custody and did not scream trafficking indicators among the people it removed. Prioritize recommendations to screen individuals and immigration custody for Human Trafficking and wondering if home and security has followed through on the and do we know what has happened to the children . We heard today thousands of victims and children, we just dont know where they are. Thank you. First of all, i share your deep concern about not only unaccompanied minor children but all migrants and making sure those individuals making a perilous journey are protected specifically from trafficking. I know addressing the challenges of irregular migration specifically providing protection to refugees and offering lawful migration pathways are key priorities for the administration and during her previous testimony specifically called out offering lawful migration pathways and reducing vulnerability is part of the plan. We recognize placement in the western hemisphere has reached historic highs and im mindful of the comment about individuals who are fleeing under state of desperation to look at the crisis through that lens many of these individuals are fleeing in desperation. The administration is working with interagency groups in the department of Homeland Security which has the answers to the questions you are bringing up today health and Human Services and department of state for our role we see our highest purpose making sure we protect vulnerable and if they are screened. Are they . That was made a year ago. We agree with you all migrants should be screened. I will have to defer to my colleagues in regard to especially know the title 42 is expiring in title eight will come back up, i will defer to them. Its a perfect time to ask because we are having a change in authority under which we will be working. I do know as it pertains to screening, some of the work theyre doing specifically in the western hemisphere specifically encourages screening of migrants so they do receive protection and services and prevent individuals at great risk of trafficking from the systems of trafficking. We have programs in the region focused on screening and prevention. We have regional programs not just one country focus for the whole of region approach because we recognize the crisis but not one country can solve. Its important to know 80 million in Trafficking Programming, a region with the highest amount of programming which i think speaks to the administration sincere concern about this issue in addition to International Programming any we have, we are engaging in bilateral diplomacy making sure allies and colleagues in the region are doing what they need to for trafficking in the country before it goes further. We are making sure to call the efforts out in the reports, i share your emphasis and focus on getting it right and integrity not only because it will have my name on it but also i worked with ngos in the field who rely on that report to speak what they saw so we share your deep concern about that. We are working aggressively using all the tools os guinness and paying attention to Interagency Working Groups so thank you for the opportunity to address the. Do we have any idea, news media conflates coyotes to bring people up and im wondering because i havent seen the specifics, how many of these individuals evolve into a trafficking situation, being precise, obviously its dangerous when you pay somebody to bring you up but how many how many cases we have . We got a state Department Number 60000 coming in every year and now best estimate, i put in the findings of the bill. A couple years later its more like 17000. Its because of the reappraisal done in the was a big story so i load exaggeration, dont under count or overcome but if you could, how many of these cases are Human Trafficking and what is becoming of these kids . I wouldnt want to misspeak on the number and i think we should come back to an estimate. We need accuracy on this as well. We get enshrined in the findings. Weve done bipartisan all along and need to speak out so i cant tell you how concerned i am of how many are enslaved today so that number is extremely important. It needs to be all hands on deck especially in arizona. I did a hearing a year end a half ago on cobalt and the fact that the use slave labor especially child labor to send it to china. Theres all kinds of corruption people are being paid off and they are being run by the chinese. Theres almost no seller to speak up, its been dropped by almost 50 so im wondering if it is something you are looking at. I met with the peacekeepers and they are there to protect and we had four hearings on that before and after the trip. They said they wanted zerotolerance, a strong statement, one we called zero compliance with the zero effort so in general how well we are doing or not doing in regard to these deployed and others, weve got to stay at it because a sense of entitlement and abuse and these are 12 and 13yearold being sold. Thank you for your concern, we appreciate you raising this issue and we are paying close attention in the broader influence prc has recognizing its not just a unique focus problem, i also appreciate not only is it child victims but other adult victims in equally deplorable situations, we are using the Interagency Working Group to the Interagency Task force and also forced labor enforcement, it represents the state Department Friends to make sure we take a close look at goods made with forced labor. Thats one of the things ive been able to do since january. Youve touched on peacekeeping, as someone reading this report, this is included. We are monitoring peacekeeping and whether or not they are engaging in it or contribute to trafficking, we are monitoring and calling out the report. That took eight years to get past and we know these trips are occurring. We did put the how to tell us where theyre going or face significant law. We put the language in and you open it and Border Security forfeited up and they say theyve committed a crime against a child and we will work closely with them to get that into law as well as members of the senate. We understand a lot of people not being included in passports that are good for ten years and whenever there is a new passport it is of course for children because we know why they recommit the crimes and youre doing them a favor and its possible that maybe they will so im just wondering what we should doing to advance, i am concerned 900 sex offenders, not all are child offenders but many are. First of all critics are you they should be capturing more through passport applications, right now that doesnt happen. First of all, we are supporting the goal of the legislation as a former prosecutor, i am well aware of the recidivism rates and appreciate your leadership and strict territorial child Sexual Exploitation and abuse is awful and we need to do everything we can to prevent it from happening. I know dhs has the Angel Watch Program which oversees an and i believe my colleagues at the department of state and Diplomatic Security for the department of state colleague staff overseeing that. For the specific mechanics of how it works, i need to refer to those i will say in addition to supporting the goal in recognizing important, the department calls us out in the report so its an issue we recognize the critical importance of. Were looking at the legislation changing from may register to show. Its wonderful but you dont have a full department of state it becomes more difficult. If you could, then i will yield for you here reports on the Mission Staff tend to evolve with participation in Human Trafficking and are know to what extent where that is but as you know and i appreciate you saying have you briefed and trained Service Providers and members as well, it is cognizant of that decision and problem and am wondering on this. I wouldnt have a lot of insight right now, the last few years they have tried to get down on this internally. Its across the agency that obvious things for any involvement in any way i staff by incrementing partners, contractors and in effect renders all members and eyes and ears watching as we work with an immense range of beholders and do something to find themselves adjacent to such an act and every member in the first few months are on board, they know what to watch for and its not always Common Knowledge for people coming in. Its an internal process and advances any findings they come up with. Thank you so much. I want to ask about the trafficking hotline, my understanding is when we minimally funded the u. S. Government and have done more on a private basis, is that correct . Thats overseen by health and Human Services but you are correct that its operated. Thank you. Ive been trying not to be scrolling but whatever and scrolling about is the topic and i was looking up the gip report and i think you made reference to the fact that your name will go on this report and i look forward to the omicron does not generally come out. It requires the report be issued by june 30 so its in my site. Thats great and i will ask my staff and to make sure we get a copy when it comes out but the 20 her a few to report most of the countries i saw didnt surprise me. I was a little surprised and the author of the philippine woman rights and that particular interest in what goes on there but i learned more as i evolve on the subject about the criteria but my question is, how often do regional bureaus within the state department for other parts of the executive branch argue for modifying, improving and countries ranking based on consideration having nothing to do with this criteria . I assume that happens and lets go with that first. It sets out clearly what can be considered in the tier ranking and what cannot and i can assure you the conversations we have are firmly rooted in the parameters set by the tpa and one of the good things is we dont just communicate or consult with regional bureaus report time, we have ongoing relationships with them so it makes it much easier, these are not discussions is like an employment review, you dont bring it up for the first time at the review. Its something we should have talked about so pretty good ongoing record conversations regarding not only the tip report but government and we are mindful remain within the parameters set by the tpa. I take it from that response no matter how much internal lobbying by region or bureau, the criteria is strictly applied . That is correct. In all of my conversation, we are focused on minimum standards laid out for us. I love being able to have it because i can often use this when explaining to other governments why they may or may not have a ranking they like, the clarity is like a security blanket, i can say this is what i am here to look at and it is grounded. Im glad to hear that suggest that brings me to my next question, how long do you have to interact with other countries, governments on the issues of their ranking . We will insert ourselves into any conversation that they will let us in the door. We engage in robust bilateral engagement with countries as well as multilateral. Of note, just yesterday secretary was having a meeting with Foreign Ministry and we were able to attend the meeting to make sure the issue is even though it wasnt the topic of consideration. Due to the hard work you have done, it is relevant in so many conversations and we will squeeze in the door whenever we can. I am glad to hear that and i will watch closely for the report. I want to switch gears, i have the honor of representing the district, one of the largest populations in the United States and on their behalf, my constituents behalf and i hear from them often. I do want to ask about the ongoing invasion and Russian Forces in various forms of trafficking, it extends extensively, im not sure that its documents to the true extent but we had another hearing, a full Committee Hearing on the issue of children being kidnapped and taken to russia and i think the numbers are probably lower than what actually happened but its based on anecdotal evidence so you tell us generally how it is looking to address the situation . Long before russias war into ukraine again, this is a major area of antitrafficking work for usaid and others in a partner government and many partners across society to work across, that included ukraine set up its own National Hotline that created a lot of reporting mechanisms. Do they have that in place now . They do. The hotline for example is one of preexisting things weve contribute to to this when the true crisis hit so we had 6000 people i think it was reporting to the hotline, able to receive reports of emergencies and a moment so many of those are hard to get but it does mean a Large Network to help ukrainians conduct and we absorb their way back into ukraine to provide Survivor Services and by way of russia it creates vulnerable populations across the board so i think this is true in a lot of programming but preexisting is a valuable foundation to turn into high gear. You let me to another thought, would it make sense for the United States to work with other countries who dont have this infrastructure in place that you mentioned ukraine has or has before the war . It seems a vital component worldwide, i dont know many countries have trafficking infrastructure, an idea of percentage . I would struggle to new mayor says it but in countries either where the government is serious about the problem or where the embassy is exercise on it or both, what we try to do is essentially whole of Society Approach in the first instance preventive it is also very much protection of survivors, upholding and strengthening rule of law to go after violators and 35 countries currently operating we have, it often setting of resilience that can catch every trafficking. We tried to be agile when theres an opening in the country so the chairman mentioned not everything is easy but one thing is they reconstituted antitrafficking commission nationally and work with each of us so a moment with the worlds focus for much larger geostrategic regions, we can build out into resilience multi stakeholder approach to chip away at the problem. Thats good to know and i would love to continue engagement with our committee and what we might do in congress to system that endeavor in ukraine and the rest of the world and other countries that needed. My impression of the hearing with the children in ukraine, the prosecutor general is cooperative and proactive, its encouraging to see, i dont know if you have that in other countries not from a row that is the case so if theres anything we can do and believe me, i fully understand ukraine is not the only place we need to focus on, it just happens to be right now the most visible one and have special interest because of my constituents but if theres other things we should look at improve, please bring it to our attention. Thank you. Thank you very much for appearing today. U. S. Aid has been included in the policy field guide, code of conduct and Standard Operating Procedures for work on combating Human Trafficking staff and abroad, assuming u. S. Aid has Human Trafficking experts that read and understand related laws, why is the term sex word is throughout these documents . The term has been commonly used across a wide field and trafficking apparatus. I would say we are not assigning value when its been used and it is not meant to legitimate legal work in the group places but we are not trying to. Are they promoting it as a legal form of employment rather than treating it as exploitation . The purpose of commercial sex trafficking. As the administrator aware of how this compromises safety of u. S. Taxpayer beneficiaries . We are not promoting this work in our programming, that is not the intent and if we were to find inadvertent programs that have the effect it would be addressed immediate. Our focus on the immense amount of trafficking that infiltrates this in many different ways and trying to provide support especially through survivors and accountability and concentrators and help local partners. Thank you for his hearing and he asked you the Human Trafficking expert network, i am glad, im wondering if there is an attempt or plan to bring in and make fulltime employees in strategic positions, i can have a lived experience and overcome what they have. I clearly share your focus on including survivor leaders and those with the expanse, they are critical in every space of our program, not just talking the law but also how we implement and it has been an honor to work with members of the Advisory Council, even in the highest levels during the most recent task force the Advisory Council and sat at the table next to the cabinet level and amazing and i began work in 1993 so its wonderful and we are considering ways to better inform our work and always weathers hiring, using this network, we currently do the best training ive ever personally attended produce offered in person and divided by a member of the network, Consultant Network and did it in connection with another expert, it is tremendous and one of the priorities to make sure we are including survivor forces and it will remain a priority. You have every embassy during data calls and the like but you actually . I believe its about 86 fulltime folks and 27 additional consultants. We also have some Foreign Service officers and i could let you know specifically and you are right, she works closely with our colleagues and officers and the embassies that are food on the ground and it is an honor to collaborate with them. You might not like this question but sufficient for money to do more with more resources . Im not going to turn down a pile of money but. Was not being done . We are a mean green machine and really see our meeting our mandates, we do have terrific staff with amazing expertise. I have enjoyed getting to work with Foreign Service officers so we appreciate your focus on us. Thank you. The question about the role of survivors in agency such as prevalence and any agency as large as u. S. Aid will have many survivors and theres no way around that. Second, we formally incorporate survivors designing basically anything that has to do with trafficking. For instance, global antitrafficking policy was based on consultation of survivors were brought in for a rigorous backandforth exchange. Versions of that are true and Program Design around the world and i was saying we often see virtual following effects in one example in bangladesh is a major antiTrafficking Program that included training and vast range of services. The graduate to the program self organize into their own National Advocacy network of survivors and they are pushing it which is receptive in many cases in a way that we ourselves could not possibly change, it is a Virtuous Cycle and i will not go too much into funding but i refer back to the first thing which is you dont have centralized dedicated antitrafficking money so missions are looking at discretionary budget making choices among virtuous causes and it is clear the demand for antitrafficking resources is quite high, easily outstrips every year the your mark and at the center trying to inform the programs and make them effective as possible but it reflects not just the problems but its harder to do something about it. Im sorry to step out, i have to get to a 1 30 p. M. But im going to be following up with thank you much. Will submit a few questions for the record. When the inter agencies occur, this home and security given to what prosecutors are doing or not doing . To make it as a priority . Every administration we have tried hard to say please make this a priority and is it comes to attorney general, it is a priority and especially huge numbers of Migrant Children, unaccompanied minors and others who potentially and i hope to get back to us asap on those numbers, i believe we have a catastrophic situation underway for the gone missing being exploited while heavily focused and your classically Law Enforcement with the idea that its about rescuing political after the perpetrators will make a difference. Does that get discussed and you have these interagency meetings . With all due respect when certain people say the border is secure its not the evidence everyday with lines of people coming in, i couldnt be more worried. Several people including how many of these women and young girls are socially assaulted, it is outrageous. What is discussed about going after this with everything weve got flex when he was first began when it took a while when he did, rescue and restore conferences all over the country and the local prosecutors, everybody on the Faithbased Community say make it a priority, quickly priorities become less so we dont promote it, im wondering, it is it a priority . Thank you for asking and as you are asking, i was wondering if you were eavesdropping on a meeting i had yesterday because not only do we talk about it after President Task force and the senior policy operating group, we have meetings where we go into deeper detail. I had a meeting yesterday, the head of the Human Trafficking unit and the National Coordinator at d. O. J. On Human Trafficking and we were talking about this yesterday so we are focused on it, trying to make sure another thing we talked about, i know people who previously have been in the role of prosecutors but federal prosecutors. I was the prosecutor who had a can of corn at one corner of my desk because it was Dallas County and we didnt have the resources but many of state and local are getting these cases and we were strategizing about that so i dont want to over emphasize because i know deeply i could not do it because i work at a shelter nine years in the nonprofit but we have a role to play and it is top of mind as recently as yesterday so thank you very much. Is there a ballpark how many of the Illegal Migrants are trafficked . You bring up such good points. Migrants are deeply at risk of trafficking for the reason you spoke about, many times they have paid someone to get across the border and once they arrive they are not able to pay off the debt, they are ending up in a place thats one of the most common ways. I do not have specific numbers but i will commit to looking to see if they exist because we certainly recognize they are deeply storable. I would ask that it not be smiling because we need this even though it is antitrafficking situation and we need to i appreciate you getting back to us and we have a final question my friend and colleague. I have two questions. The revision of these policies and generate 2021 the first time survivor informed by survivor consultants for expertise and review of the documents, what steps u. S. Aid take to ensure revision in december 2021 was survivor informed, the policy highlights survivor informed approach, what steps are being taken by u. S. Aid to co create local programs and are survivors being paid for Consulting Services and usaid . That policy is essentially guidance that washington puts out to any Field Mission that wants to do Trafficking Program or to renew it. Overall priorities it was survivor centered which you want every program to be designed. I wouldnt cohabit as new but it is priority. Now when they do deny these programs, topnotch expertise to help them and convene survivors to inform local context of any given program. My time is short, youre not answering my question. What steps u. S. Aid to ensure revision december 2021 policy and also survivor informed . We survivors, i could come back and was paid versus not paid but they were central drivers and that policy and by Extension Programs are designed best for that. With your permission, survivors like trafficking organizations often have difficulty in competing with Large Development organization and funded programs because contracting complex to say the least and usaid. As for antitrafficking intimidation to help smaller organizations to set aside for survivor led organizations or increasing the number of smaller grants or grassroots organizations and likewise, and they are efforts, if not, why not . I really appreciate that question. I work at a nonprofit and we focused on supporting locally led Women Leaders and organizations. You are so right they were unable to apply for not just funding but any federal government funding, it is public and. One thing i think theyve done a good job is many programs require a local organization so some big programs have the main organization, a nonprofit able to do Financial Disclosures and having a number and all these things but required to work with a local in the field so that is one way the benefit is a lot of times local ngos get on the job Capacity Building with hopes that they can learn to do it himself so i know weve done that in modern slavery we are grateful for help, i know weve done with that program and one thing i am focused on as a former grantee his hands for week make sure our programs are not only available to smaller ngos our grantees are survivor led so really focus on that so thank you for your question. First of all, localization is a top priority across areas, theres a continual balance between ensuring accountability for the money we have put out with minimizing the parking such that local organizations are able to compete for and implement any large conglomerate so look at it as number one, the percentage of money going to the organizations but localization on program for anything also about designing it and how involved they are in monitoring the program and helping gather localized data and it tailors to local needs. One example i would say in global will organization, and Inspiring Group sense of direct implement of a whole of Society Approach across all four, theres no International Intermediary which is an Effective Group of locals in a country experiencing human rights openings so an important moment and asking about the senior official, i regret to note we are in the center vastly smaller in terms of dedicated antitrafficking office, by the fact that there implement the utterly centralized way. I want to thank you for your leadership and your patience, a long but incisive hearing so thank you for that. I want to thank cspan for being here, have an editorial. They are here today and provide opportunity for americans to hear you and the externally panel and victims poured out their heart about what they went through but also what they are doing to healthy and this horrible scourge of trafficking so thank you. And i will conversations. 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