Transcripts For CSPAN2 Book TV 20130909

[applause] thank you very much. First of all i coauthored the command and want to acknowledge my graco author john oneill and i hope he is well. I could not have done it without johns assistance. He was a navy veteran and was a great honor to fight that battle. Two books i have today are equally important messages. I want to start with this one on that samaritans. The subtitle is the aclus Relentless Campaign to erase faith from the Public Square. In the beginning of the buckeye trees the history of the aclu because i wanted to make it clear that this was not an accidental development. Our Founding Fathers in writing the First Amendment articulate it many times that if the United States lost its belief in god, our Founding Fathers believed in god was the judeochristian, but we ourselves would lose our liberty to the and i began with a thinking well fees were geniuses that created the declaration of independence, the constitution bill of rights, and why would they think this . How is it that america has allowed the aclu step by step to make us into a very secular nation where it is almost a crime to even have an expression of a judeochristian believe in a school or in the Public Square or as i are giving the aclu is about to move into the churches to criminalize christianity. When i started researching bad samaritans i realized the foundation of the aclu was radical socialism and even communism. The founders, some of the original Board Members were writing books like the soviet america. It has at the end of world war i and the various radicals that opposed doing and the military including the founder of the organization himself. The evolution of the aclu was to embrace the radical principles some of the members being communist. I documented fully in the book and the goal was to attack america, to transform america into a revolutionary socialist state. To do that two things had to be accomplished. The belief in the judeochristian god had to be destroyed, and the fundamental family units had to be destroyed. If these social structures remained in place, america had no chance of becoming a radical socialist country or communist country. So the aclu decided one of its First Principles going back into the 1920s and the 1930s was to support any attack on god. The scopes monkey trial was one of the first efforts with the aclu jumped in, and again arguing that a and of the presentation of of pollution in schools that the whole argument in the scopes trial which was a very famous trial, Charles Carroll representing the aclu and William Jennings bryan representing the creation in schools. They published a very radical view of that trial which if any of you have seen an inherent the wind and sup portraying that provision as they have portrayed as stupid. Anyone who would believe in an idea of god creating the world remember the famous scene where Spencer Tracy is a lawyer and browbeating William Jennings on the stand who is reduced to tears. That never happened in the trial. William Jennings Bryan won the trial and the defense he gave was very strong popular image that has come out of that has been one that has persisted in demonizing christians. As i follow the history through a couple of the major attacks going on today and i want to emphasize this has been a skillful campaign that the west has waged to be the primary attack going on right now today is on the whole agenda of marriage being between a man and woman and it began with Public Relations campaign that the left began running to change the entire notion of the relationship between two people, homosexuals, lgbt agenda was advanced realizing that in the 1950s if someone was portrayed as a homosexual it was terrible. It was a stigma. But in presenting television shows, presenting homosexuals and a positive light, it got to the point where in terms of libertarianism people say if it doesnt hurt me that to men or to women are married why should i care . One of the fundamental distinctions between a libertarian as that for a true conservative the moral value, the fiber of the nation are worth fighting for on a Christian Giglio principal. What happens is we get introduced a former collectivism and again i go into the social darwinism. That all these ideas ought to be tested so you can see which one he emerges as the best as long as they do not hurt me. The next frontiers in the lobby and the arguments that will advance, take the Public Relations campaign, polygamy or multiple people involved in a marriage or even pedophilia. Once these barriers are broken, wants boe logic of a judeochristian faith is broken down so people no longer believe in fundamental issues such as sam or redemption, then of course why cant you experiment with all of these other forms of Sexual Activity and headed towards a kind of paganism. We have seen the results was sexually christianity coming in that overturned the paganism in the ancient world. Second of the attack on the family and the pushing of the abortion agenda. Pushing the feminist agenda has been to break down the idea of marriage and a mother and to parents raising a child. With the abortion you move into a thinking where sex is just fun experimentation. The consequences of sex can be just eliminated if it involves a child and we get the whole issue of, you know which the democrats exploited in the last election a true conservative would say we dennett what are we talking about . And 18 sent rut being paid for bye welfare . The reproductive freedom includes an idea of the unborn child having its own right to life to it i can show you many psychologists and psychiatrists working with women who have had abortions for the rest of their lives are haunted by the child of wasnt born. In terms of conservatives we need to assert these values and bring them forward to the eye and the book by saying the next challenge once the agenda achieve as though there is in fact a constitutional right to a homosexual marriage or lesbian marriage or whatever marriage is defined as legitimate than anyone who in a church a pastor who preaches a biblical judeochristian interpretation that anything except a marriage between a man and a woman is a sin, that pastore will have been committing a hate crime and the future will be to define these rights as if they were several rights. In other words, we understand that and properly discrimination by race is a crime. You cant vote for housing, jobs will truly skin color is an irrelevant consideration. Are we going to say male, female or that marriage and the idea of raising children where were headed in the United States is not only an environment in much the Catholic Church has to ask if it is going to continue operating if it has to provide contraceptive services and its Health Insurance program and abortions violating the fundamental principles of the religion we move to a point where its become freedom from religion of freedom of religion. The Secular Society in which the aclu would be fined for the rights of islam and defend muslims where they would never defend christians on the equal basis. This book is partly dedicated to Phyllis Schlafly and bill mary many of you know is now a very strong christian working to promote christianity throughout the world but was responsible with his mother for some of the initial cases which put prayer out of the school and bill donohue but phyllis argued decades ago that feminism was why should women have equal rights . Women always have special rights. How is it that we are going to eliminate going into a socialist agenda that elena makes the family. A country which should look at failure some of the times of failure have a child too early in your teenage years and of a husband or wife together to raise the child. The education and values are headed towards the future in which the future will be dependent on the state which is engineered the removal of god something that Thomas Jefferson his wall of separation phrase in the banbury calculation was never meant to mean separation of church and state. It was meant to mean the government cannot interfere with church and the aclu played a major part in that. Now, in some ways my next book the what w whi is about o the election is a continuation of the same thing. What im pointing out is you must understand that the Obama Campaign in 2008 and in 2012 for game changers. Of the Republican Party mitt romney i spent three weeks as the traveling press with mitt Romney Campaigning flying in on the Romney Campaign airplane. The last day of the campaign that rodney king to the end of the session and said he hadnt even written a concession speech to the and he was that confident he was going to win. The chief strategist of the Romney Campaign if he were equally confident, and he was, the whole idea is he said that a good message, a Good Campaign message would be the ground game any time. He said im not so sure of that. That is, morose thinking or before about the message. With the democrats managed to do is it shouldnt be underestimated im a professional political scientist. I have a ph. D. From harvard in 1972. I studied voting behavior in president ial collections for decades. The democrats were a game changer and have highly effected computer scientists, political scientists and psychologists working for them. The physicists are specialists in the movements because of the statistics and the mathematics has some mapping on the politics. These are people who are the same google Silicon Valley geniuses highly funded and are also putting talent in the National Security administration to be able to take vast amounts of data and all of your credit card information and free telephone call you ever made, every email you have ever spent and every web site youve looked at and to provide you on the microbasis and then run a very sophisticated computer equations so for the political scientist running the Obama Campaign it wasnt about winning all of the country. It came down to eight states and to the county in ohio. If you take the cities out of the United States you have a very rich country, very republican. You put the city back in the california without l. A. And San Francisco is very different. Its the same all across the country so it comes down to 50,000 votes. The democrats knew they had to get them and those included in getting the Africanamerican Community to respond actively and in florida, 50,000 additional hispanic votes techniques so that when the Obama Campaign email to you they felt like they were talking to you personally and the Obama Campaign Planning Interest Group politics to a level that would have frightened even Franklin Roosevelt such that i will make this last point and take some questions as this. Obama divided and has continued to divide and the Current Campaign for instance, trayvon martin. The fbi would be happy to testify and show or be forced to testify and show they have investigated zimmerman and he isnt a racist but the point is this race deviating rises up the supporters and gets them on the street. If they are angry they are intensified in their support for obama and same thing for rich dont pay their fair share. Obama knows they pay their fair share. Last point. But the point is if they are riled up and intensified in the streets and their support is the manipulated that way, when youve got is not looking at other stories in the news these very effective media people want to play out dont have any coverage of the fort hood shooting. How about the irs is examining Tea Party Groups and talking about trayvon martin. Phyllis was right. She wrote a book and i dedicated this book to phyllis for her book in the 60s. The Republican Party does not run a real conservative traces. The Republican Party has no future and that is the major theme not to underestimate the degree to which the obama people have changed fundamentally and forever the nature of president ial politics. Thank you. [applause] its great to see you again, dr. Corsi. Thank you for coming here. You have written a wideranging but i followed you would throughout the book to the wideranging talks of israel to the birth certificate. It appears to me that the world of you that you have mentioned with antisemitism on my perspective deception and the Obama Administration has created a downward spiral of american culture. From our research and data that you have gathered and you and ken have written. Is it true from your research on the trend that have been continued on the downward spiral and if so, is there hope for what you call true conservatism . Thank you. America for sale was one of my books exploring the free trade with china and it echoes the themes of the previous speaker. The United States has to have a true conservative who can explain to people do you really want your future defined by food stamps . The young people in the room youve gone through college, you have student loans. Do you want your future defined by the job far below what you were to do . If we decided that the economy is too expensive to employ people and we go this direction of having people be constantly manipulated not realizing the techniques being used to get you not to care dietrichs bankrupt today after decades of socialism of the welfare state. When i was a child growing American Cities for the great treasure. American cities are a waste land they are a waste land because of broken families. The tragedy that is going on in our inner cities and around the country which will spread to the suburbs where children are not raised correctly and dont see a future where the family has broken from the beginning. Someone has to stand up and say this is the law i the alladi and dont be satisfied as young people to be told your not needed. Dont be satisfied to be told somebody in china or anywhere else can do your job is better than you can do them that fight for this. And if you listen socialism always comes along to help you and then in the end it in prisons you. Obama is a very intelligent extension not to be underestimated what some of the best advice around. Political science, computer science. Dont think for a minute that the nsa is surveying the terrorists because you have Homeland Security saying that he party is the terrorist. As soon as you have the information why do you think the left doesnt care . The left knows that the nsa isnt watching Silicon Valley. The left is watching conservatives every bit as much as the irs target of conservatives for. Darrell issa is doing a remarkable job in congress and we need to support him and the policies like ted cruce. We need to acknowledge that the me too republicans, john mccain, lindsey graham, and unfortunately marco rubio if thats the Republican Party to the conservatives do not need the Republican Party. [applause] you want to get joel . All right. My name is joe gilbert from highway 61 and i have two questions. The first one is given the history of failure and socialism and communism what is the psychological recommended on the system and second, would you be willing to be interviewed for my new movie . Ive been in your movies before and i would be like it again. Let me answer in terms of the appeal of socialism is very strongly seductive. I remember every one gender than you read the communist manifesto. It promises a workers paradise. Do not hesitate also to study the collective the millions of people killed. Dont hesitate to study the millions killed in china or what we used to call indochina were some of the people in china or russia who are desperate for freedom. Whenever anyone is telling you the government is going to help you run from them and of the fortunately in the schools pool indoctrination has been so effective going back into the last century of the United States. But our schools are dominated by the progressives who became progressives increasingly today because the communists and socialists understood they didnt want to be called communists and socialists. The agenda is indistinguishable and the party knows that. Some of the greatest supporters if you want to prove it read it the papers and the United States. So, dont the educating is so heavily laden with a class analysis with an attack on republicans. Dont forget it was Abraham Lincoln though spielberg did a great book did he mention lincoln was a republican . How about the civil rights law brought forward in the Eisenhower Administration at a time when the democrats were watching out of a convention and the dixiecrats because they were segregationists. Dont let the democrats and the socialists write the narrative of strong republican conservative candidates not mitt romney who was a centrist to begin with wouldnt let the democrats frame him. Thats what i point out in the minute the democrats ran commercials on romney saying he was able to capitalist. He threw people out of work and took the money he had to get up and say that is a lie. He had to explain why and say i will sue anybody that runs that commercial. We dont have like Phyllis Schlafly said in the 50s conservatives who have strong principles. Articulate principles and defend them. Dont go for the kgb did you oppose obama you are a racist. Thats nonsense. And it has to be articulated as nonsense and confronted. The Republican Party has stood in this country for equal rights before the democrats ever became aware of the issue. [applause] the New York Times book review is getting of redesigned in did is debuting this weekend. The editor of the New York Times book review. Ms. Paul what are some of those . We gave it a new look. The goal was to maintain what we fundamentally are which is a book reviews the to keep the number of book reviews in their color of a length of the book reviews this is a section for the readers so while the design looks more open and a bit more acceptable accessible it is the section for reading but there are new features which i think will make the issue overall more accessible, a little bit more relevant and unpredictable and exciting host what are those new features . There are major new features in this issue. One is called the short list. These are brief reviews the New York Times book review had always run. But the change here is that they are grouped according to the genre and subject so that the kind of takes the short review from something of a Second Thought to something that if youre interested in Science Fiction these are the looks of interest and it enables us to find a review where that has the experience and expertise and interest in the area to give those books a strong and coherent review. So that is one feature we traditionally had an s. A. From contributors. It is called book ends and we had ten regular columnists who are going to rotate matched up in different pairs and theyre going to take on a question that is out there for the first issue. Are the novelists weary of criticizing other novelists . There is a lot of debate on whether twitter made their riders too nice and fearful of offending and whether the book world is so small and in such a desperate need and that its not right to criticize or together authors books down so that is the question they are taking on this week and every week it will be a new topic within it is related to nonfiction or fiction or the way that weve read or poetry in translation and pop culture and these will always be paired up again in different combinations looking at that issue and trying to address it. What its not is a he said she said. Its not a thumbsup or thumbs down. Sometimes the writers might agree on a particular answer but because these are strong writers with different backgrounds and approaches they will look at it and write about it in such different ways we think it will make a nice sort of companion. The idea again is that to really promote conversations and not only respond to the issues out there but to generate the discussion because so much of the reading is about recommendations about the conversation and about the debate. Who are some of the regular columnists going to be . We have ten columnists and they come from all around the world both from fiction and nonfiction and also criticism. So we is in the first issue and she is paired with adam so we have a novelist and perhaps best known by her recent novel believers and the scandal was turned into a film. The Senior Editor at the new republic as well as a published poet. We also have in the coming weeks part of the media group. Jennifer is another columnist and francine has written more than 20 books on the fiction and nonfiction. Estimate we appreciate you naming some of this. One of the things that you mentioned is the book world is or may be small. Is the book world a small and insular. I think it can feel that we especially if you are in it from the outside it might seem like its this huge impenetrable force that doesnt let outsiders and the. I want to open up. I think that people continue to read in the same numbers they always did. The number of book reviews and newspapers in general have gone down. People crave stories and it doesnt matter whether they are reading them on the phone or taking a book out from the library this is a conversation people still want to have and they still want to know what they can read and should be reading. What is good and worth their time. How does the New York Times review treat fiction . Its usually important. In the first issue we have a new nonfiction. We have reviews by a book by kenseth who has a new book unthinkable and the days on the memorial. I think our readers look at nonfiction as much as fiction. I read more nonfiction and fiction. But i think that we are trying to devote as much space to both given the limited number of reviews we can write and include. In New York Times book review traditionally has only reviewed about 1 of the number of books in a given year so its about finding the best from all genres the editor of the New York Times book review has threatened a starter marriage and help pornography is damaging our lives, relationships and families, and parenting incorporated. What does it mean to in author . Its huge and for better or worse its become more important because we are the last freestanding newspaper book review out there. So its different from the daily review we have reestablished critics or sometimes reviewers will take a step back, especially with nonfiction that the author is writing about and its a hugely important review for the authors the july of getting a positive review in the times and a very negative review so i take it very seriously and i know what its like from the other end to the estimate does it affect book sales . I think that if everyone knew what really affected book sales there would be about selling and author. Its hard to know what exactly it is that made the book jump off the shelves. It can often make a book. Its been a Marketing Tool a lot of books use either on the cover or in their marketing materials is a New York Times bestseller splashed across the front hauer your best seller lists formulated . That is like the cocacola recipe. That is done by the news and a survey group at the New York Times so we dont have a direct involvement with a gathering that information what we do the book review is really present and have columnists and best seller columnist the cultural perspective way but we dont actually tally those. What is selling and not selling has become a lot more transparent in recent years. You can look at something amazon as ranking which 15 years ago you couldnt do and or maybe a little longer than 15 years now and you can there is nielsen books can which supposedly captors about 85 of the market. So people who pay for that service can have access to those numbers but its still one of those areas where its difficult to figure out exactly what is selling because the books are sold in so many different ways not only on line but at conferences and in book sales as well as in the bookstores and things like this. Booktv is celebrating its 15th year this fall. Our house the literary world changed in the last 15 years . Its been completely transformed. The last 15 years it is like ancient history. Everything has changed from the number of publishing houses. It was the big six and now its become the big five. The launch of e readers and all kind of the internet has totally transformed not only where people are buying their books but how they are reading them. The coverage in the media and print media has gone dramatically down a. At the same time we have seen the rise of a vibrant and an exciting Online Community of readers whether its on the sites like a good read or book belongs or any of the online magazine that regularly run reviews or that all mind extension of magazines that are traditionally covered. So that is all basically changed. I think the only thing that hasnt changed is the readers fundamental interest in a good story or finding out information from a great Nonfiction Book and of being moved and transported by literature. Pamela paul what is Available Online from the new york book review section . Everything is on line and increasingly theres more content of line than is in the print edition. I personally am a huge print reader and i love to see it in that format. But we offer additional content on line or by the book interview for example in an edited version in a print and then on line and a full this is the q a with the author or public figure of some kind about their life for reading. Pamela paul the new editor of the New York Times book review and has been redesigned and it has been viewing september 8th. Thank you for your time. Thanks so much my father used to tell me stories about our ancestors to plantation owners. If i ever tell you about all, she would say. He was a mean of fellow. He fought in the indian war and he owned about 100 people. Did i ever tell you about isaac, the confederate . Isaac the confederate was my fathers grandfather. He enlisted and fought throughout the civil war and ended up in Central North Carolina in the last stand against sherman. But for all his stories my dad never said much about the slaves that our family owned a by learned later they control 20 rice plantations north of the city of charleston and it goes to 4,000 africans and africanamericans over a period of 170 years. And i leader calculated that the descendants of those families number to 75,100,000 living americans today to intact my dad had a joke. There are five things we dont talk about in the family. Religion, death, money and the negros pity it was some years before i gathered the coverage to break the taboo of my family a round of the slavery. When i did they were there and he shepherded this book to the completion. In 1998 the recipients were Edward Larson author of summer of the god for history how do you deal in a town like this when someday somebody is your lawyer and the next and the government moving around did you ever get confused . No, because once people are in the government relationship you can be friends with people in the government they remember and you remember. Sometimes the paper attacks your friends or does things and sometimes you can reason with the others but mostly you have to stand by them. To watch this program in its entirety and to fight factors from book tvs first year find us online at booktv. Org. The quarrel on the island has been going on for some 300 years. It started on the streets of my own city 300 years ago. But the last 30 years have been particular and a lot has been happening in the last 30 years. But there is 1. 5 Million People and 3. 5 thousand are lost about. Over the next few weeks book tv in its 15th year on cspan2 is looking back at authors, books and publishing news that stood out. For more information, check out the web site, booktv. Org. Up next after words with Dina Cappiello Associated Press energy and environment reporter. This week Environmental Leadership Program founder paul sabin over the bet. The historian analyzes the wager between an economist and a biologist over the long term effect of deleting Natural Resources and examines the opposing perspective that part of the climate change