Diplomatic compound . Like for the anex theres never a normal staff and, i mean, it just various on the location and what what help they need support, things like that. The consolate now, 2015 Different Countries at the consulate and embassies is not normal. Its allow number. Specially with no other security on their site. They had five libyan guards that were hired and from february 17 but that was gate and youre guarding eight acres. I worked state department contracts prior to cia contracts and it was very, very low, very, very under manned specially with the highranking embassador. It was odd. It did seem odd. You can watch the full interview on our website booktv. Org. Now on book tv chris enss discusses her book, mochis war, where 200cheyenne were killed over land dispute. Well, good afternoon, my name is chris enss and im one of the authors of mochis war, im glad that youre here. I hope that this will be an entertaining talk as well as informative but im sure a lot of probably know more about it and probably can hold up your hands and say youre wrong, sister, but anyway, i am pleased to be here and there are a couple of people i want to thank. First of all, i i want to thank the city of eads for allowing me to come today and i want to thank dr. Roberts for looking at emails, constantly going back and forth. I appreciate it. Eric as well as. We are wick samuel, i think thats how you pronounce his name. Thank you very much. I write books about women of the old west, primarily i write about women that were teachers or actresses, women that owned businesses in the old west. The first time i tackled a story like this, a tail like this i applied great detail because she suffered a loss and i suffered a loss of my brother and that kind of thing the kind of violence that took place at the time that mochi experienced it and it changes you, and when everything was taken from mochi including her parents, her husband, generally at that time an andian women would be able to gather something from what she and her husband had shareed, she had nothing. As i was doing the research for this book i thought if you have everything taken from you, all you have left is revenge and really empathized a great deal with mochi when it came to that. The story is not its about the tragedy of sam creed. The story is not completely about sam creek. Its about the things leading up to sand creek. Its about what happened after that and once put mochi on this trail that she was on. The story, mochis tale starts with a great deal of controversy because the massacre at sand creek has been a cause of many arguments, perhaps more than any other event in colorado history. 150 years ago kernel and force of territory soldiers flew 160 indians, women and children, from what i understand from jeff, there were elderly men as well as, some people that were unable to get up and take care of themselves and run as the others had done because they were under attack. Theres controversy of how many people actually died there. Some historians say 52 others says 15. Thats what i mean by this particular subject matter being controversial. Theres so many people that think that even shemmington did the right thing as this even happened november 1864, very cold out and his men marched 300 miles from denver to the sand creek area, 100 miles of that was in snow. Volunteers came in with shemmington and massacred all of the people that were living peacefully at sand creek. Thats what mochi watches her husband, her mother and her father being taken down. What i admire about mochi was the fact that mochi is not just going down silently being quiet about it and just running. She was running but she stops and turns and takes on a soldier who is saying her down. Shes a fighter, shes a fighter right from the very beginning, and thats what i admired her, the fact that she she stood up and she gave back to the soldiers. I want to call your attention to an event that happened in august of 1864 and that was another event with the chen chyenne, this was about two families that had settled in the area hoping to do a is have a homestead for themselves and just live peacefully and they were on territory that they shouldnt have been. Certainly i think that the American Government didnt stop anybody to do that, they wanted to west settled even though there were numerous treaties in effect that said we dont want you going into this land, we want you here. I think they were also encouraging people to do that, so you have the eubanks and the roner family. They have a homestead and you have a young woman by the name of roper who had came from fishing trip and they see the Cheyenne Indian come in and attack them and the attack was very brutal, they watched a young women, a young women being taken down but she wasnt quite dead but the cheyenne came back and ran her through with a knife. This is something that these young people saw and then they took four of these people. The cheyenne took four of these children hostage and it took a number of months before they returned home. I think when you see this kind of brutality, kind of violence, it does change you and what the government did this i thought was unbelievable, they took some of the people that had died in this particular attack, ropers and eubanks and took them in a wagon and put them in denver, put their bodies on display which would further make the situation worse within the cheyenne, arapaho and the whites. You have all of that going on and then you have the 100day volunteer who is are looking to get themselves get themselves out of the situation, theyre bored, not by any means that that was an excuse, there was a lot of going on, this man who encouraged them to go and attack these indians on sand creek. And it just goes back and forth and back and forth. Of course, these military men, malacia did horrible things, cut the indians down, dismembered them, but you have in this time period people doing inhumane things to one another and mochi sees this and this is what precipitate her going further to make shes having a war within herself. Shes got to rectify this in some way. Mochi does get remarried after this tragedy and marries a gentleman by the name of medicine water. Medicine water is with the string society. Hes a great leader. Mochi is not satisfied to be the typical cheyenne wife. He has a daughter. I think his wife was killed at sand creek. Mochi takes the daughter and is very close. She also has two kids with medicine water. She wants to be with the bold string society. She wants to be a part of this war and she does take up arms with medicine water and they go out and they are theyre battling against the settlers coming in. The settlers, some of them were peaceful, the government said theres no good indian but a dead indian. Settlers were leaving food, other kinds of food, poison, leaving it behind so the indians that were hungry, the poisonous food would be left along the trail. So you had trained notion from many sides that its only good if the indians were dead and you have people doing horrendous things like leaving poisoned food. You have mochi who i like this part of mochis story because they had the government had said, we cant go in there, these are treaties, we are not going to encroach anymore on indian territory and they send surveyors from washington to survey the land and mochi and medicine water decide they are going to wage war against the particular surveying party. And the cruel thing is not just kill these people out, some of them chained to wagon and sent them on fire. Those people had seen violence. Mochi and medicine water have an encounter with a family called the germans and they had five girls, a son, of course, the mother and father. I also am shocked and horrified by the way that cheyenne treated people and the way that the government treated the cheyenne. Theres a part in the book that i marked, its from the september 8th, with 1865 edition of the weekly times, it says the sworn account of witnesses of the affair is enough to make any man had blush for his species. And i think that that can be held true whether it was the whites attacks indian or indian attacking the whites they did despicable things to one another. I want to read to you a section here about when they take over the surveyed i think i do. Hang on a second. Kind of nerve wrecking because this is being filmed by cspan do i sound very serious enough for cspan . Have to be i want to read to you 77, 78, the account of what was going on with mochi when they came upon the german family. When participated in the raid scanned bodies before she dismounted her ride with an ax in hand she walked to john lifeless frame, patriarch studied blood gushing from wounds and tribute to own family who were slaughtered at sand creek drove and who was the matriarch of the family. According to germans took with what they wanted from their wags began in a short time once happy family life was forever ended. I think the same could have been said for mochi if she could have written down she would have said the same thing hope and happiness that i had for my family was gone. And thats what this book is about her life in prison, not what she endure at fort marion but the train ride from this part of the country all the way to fort marion and the horrible conditions that the indian were made to travel there, and i want everyone to know that half of the proceeds from this book, sale of this book will go right to the massacre national site. So when we leave here, dont just get one, get two. And i hope that it will continue to do well and then it will make the people who come to sand creek mass u proud and also raise tweerns what took place here and to this womans life. Do you have any questionses from anyone . Thank you very much. You have a question, yes. In hoament she did, she died in 1881, she was 41 years old and she died of tuberculosis after years of being at forte marion. Yes. [inaudible] to an article written by a wonderful author by the name of linda womack. Shes done several books about the history of colorado and there were a couple of paragraphs in there about mochi. I thought wow, i have to know more about this woman. So i started digging and just kept doing that for a long time and i just didnt want to do a regular telling that everybody else does or o has done about sand creek because this was very seemed like more of a Human Interest piece and not just facting about how many people attacked whom. But it was about the emotion and horrific things that you see, that i think we see so many things in our country right now. So many horrible things. And it does change us. It is not who we are, but in mochis case i think it did. Yes. I know i explained it in books, but i know that when i was, with when she wases captured, it was like after like ten years of being on this rampage. 1875, yes. What, i mean, how did they what it they hold her for because i know that it says she was the first woman to be in prison or somethinged. Did they they im sure its in the book. But down. You know, there was a lot that happened after the sand creek massacre in 64 to where she got to in 75. She had remarried. And trying to build the life with her medicine woman trying to build a medicine, trying to build a life and they had children. And they had some time pass there. Just when they think thinks are being rebuilt then you have the battle of watchita. Once again their camp is attacked, and this time its by kuster. So then she thinks her young daughter is missing. They cant find medicine waters daughter so they look and they look, even she looks to the ashes and cannot find her daughter. And she assumes that she just drowned. Trying to get away i dont know how you get over one loss. Theres a loss of a husband and your parent and then now you think youre watching, tried being decimated3now you think your daughter is gone. I mean, it has to change you. And then you know then they go on these raids, they attack burg, i think proking that correctly. Colorado, jewelsburg . They raid that they raid that twice. So theres a lot going on. Shes not idle theres a lot going on in between that time. And then the government just keeps tracking her and they finally are able to get her and other, but shes defiant to the end. I liken her to a female geronimo. Anybody . Els questions . What would you like in the application to today. What kind of group was that . Well, it would have been kind of an offshoot of the dog soldier. They were the very they were a very fearful warrior group, brave warriors. Face is painted red with the yellow on either side of me. They were very relentless. And that was the soldiers only for something for the young. And bolstering was kind of like a subsidary of that. It was tough. No woman except mochi. Anyone else . Yes, maam. At the raid mostly in eastern colorado . No the raids were all over. They were from, well they were from yulesburg as far east as the oklahoma territory but into texas. They were everywhere. Wherever they were wherever they believe that people were encroaching on territories that they shouldnt be, they shouldnt be on this, this was their fight. Anyone else . Yes. [inaudible] i apologize but it shall flipping through your book and i happen to tell her a picture that you were talking about about about that roped her in a picture that shows inier book, and my last name in the comment and little boy in the name is danny marbles. Do we know survive or turned over danny survived. Lori roper was watching children. Couple of little children rein two grown women they were taken as a part of that raid. Laura roper and u banks they have a child each with them, but they had didnt belong to ms. Roper who was going to be getting married but eu bank, they said when she was with her son, she the indians kept saying we want encourage her to wean her little boy. But she refused if she thought they would do that she would never see them again. You guys are so nice to ask questions. And thank you so much. Anybody else have anything yes, maam. Side was she from, arapahoe or o cheyenne . Cheyenne. This doesnt mean, again, in is about mochis life who was cheyenne but isnt about, i mean, ive mentioned iowa arapahoe there at sand creek and also bell, but not a lot of time on that because this story is just the focus of mochi. I have another question. What happened it to mochi then, did you follow through with her family or press into the present day sometimes stories will go that way, but what happened to her family as well . As i said mochi dies from tuberculosis at the age a of 41. I dont know what happened with medicine water. I believe that he did continue on. I dont know if he he married. I dont really what happened with her daughters pursue that any further but thats a good question that could be something to be put in the epilogue of the book as to what happened with her daughter. I dont know. I dont even know if and maybe someone from some of the directors from the site can answer that did they take what would be a census that we would know what happened to these children. I mean, a lot of cheyenne history is oral. So how would by know what happened to those two girls that were hers . U you know, separate roles theres the doctoral and then there were so forth a lot of records. And from that weve been able to piece together some of the genology. Do you know about anything that happened with her children . Not specifically. Mr. Moore at the site will be able to answer that. I just saw him and should have asked him while i was out there but anyone else . Yes, maam. Sorry im very interested in history and things if you wanted to look into research that like to continue on for your own cures curiosity could you contact or im not sure what site youre referring to i think as you said a great place to start is with craig moore out at the site, because they are very knowledgeable if i didnt have doctor roberts helping me or eric helping me when i wrote this i sent them, it isnt just them two, but i sent it to, i cant remember the gentlemanss name but they have the Cheyenne Tribe out of oklahoma, i sent it to a couple of people at the bureau Interior Office of interior i wanted to make sure thats right because you have to do investigation but that kind of thing its not easy to pick up. We were so careful to make sure that the history of what happened with the white man was written u down. I dont think we were as careful to do that with the indians as i say a lot of that was oral history but starting with craig. Thats what im going to do even before i leave town and a i dont know where craig