Townhall. Com parties. He talks about the Republican Partys relationship with young voters. Here is a look at what you will see tonight. Millennials are the biggest generation right now and the Republican Party is not super popular among men millennials the millennials and i think there are barriers that the face of the party will have to change. And on a couple issues, whether it is gay marriage, for example. Changesou start making to appeal to a new group of voters that think differently than their parents and grandparents come about alienating the parents and grandparents whose votes you rely on as your base to win elections right now . That is when the growing pains in the Republican Party that i will be fascinated to see how they handle that over the next, maybe not the next few years, but over the next decade or decade and a half. The current integration of the Republican Party i do not think would be a viable party in 20 years. 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Looking around the world to make sense of it. Pick up new skills through experience and User Experience from the past to solve problems of the future. One of the main ways is using machine learning, a term you might hear. It is kind of simple. You take example data and you use it to show the software what it needs to do. We have all been exposed to Artificial Intelligence programs and tv shows. And they really are like humans and they walk around. And the reality of Technology Today is short of that. We can build today, they can be smart but in a narrow way. We can build wedges of intelligence that do one thing well. And a good example of that is today, you can talk to a smartphone and it will recognize your words and transcribe it into speech. To machinenks learning that is accurate now. But the system cannot really do anything else. It is focused. Host sometimes it can recognize your voice. [laughter] tom that is true. Those with certain accents have problems and there are wrinkles to be fixed. Dead and when the Technology Begin and where is the future . Tom it began a long time ago. This term began in the 1960s. We have seen progress since then but we are still short of these machines Walking Around by themselves. Over the last five years, there has really been a Rapid Improvement in the power of machine learning, the way that you take a bunch of data and you use it to train software. And that has led to big increases in accuracy of speech recognition. And image recognition. So that is why you can search personal photos now using terms like dog or tree. That kind of thing. So recent developments in the techniques have led to scientific results, impressive kind of new Business Applications as well. And out here on the west coast there is a huge amount of money being invested into the technology. Host and why, what is the hope . What is the goal of investing and how much money are we talking about . Tom that is a good question. I mean, if you add up all of the Big Companies and venture capitalists, we are talking figures in the billions in the last few years. Just to take one example, google paid around 600 million for a u. K. Based Artificial Intelligence company a few years ago. This is a big bet. Why are they making it . I guess because computers already do so much for us and it is pretty clear they could do a lot more if they were smarter. So there are all kinds of applications for this. Some of them kind of, the thing you might notice every day, just improving and targeting advertisements would make a big difference to the bottom line of the companies. Some of them are more transformational and so you can think about robotics and this could lead us to having drones or household robots smart enough to navigate around the messy you in your house or help with chores, that kind of thing. Probably most of us have been exposed to voice assistance, where you can talk to series siri or alexa. I am sure we have seen those are limited. Back to my earlier point, we are a long way from ai systems with independent existence. But as these things get more powerful, they will allow all of us to do more in the time. And businesses to do more things with fewer people like manual work. Host yeah, what about that . Workplace. Ai in the as you were talking, we were showing viewers an image of a robot making a pizza. I mean, how do you know what jobs will be replaced by Artificial Intelligence . What are the numbers saying . Yeah, great to bring the numbers. Right now, the numbers are not to just a machines taking jobs away from people. This is actually a point of argument among economists and Business People who think about this. So on the one hand, we are seeing the Technology Get more powerful and you can certainly make the argument that means we can replace people with machines. Washe other hand, if that starting to happen, you would expect businesses to become more productive, because they could do more with technology and the economic figures do not show that. And if you look, there are examples where bringing in machines to directly replace people does not reduce employment and is so a good example is the atm. People sitting behind the counter counting out money, yet when they were introduced and they were rapidly , theed by many banks number of Bank Employees went up, not down because it did free the banks to open more branches and expand business in other ways. Am on the fence. I think there are good reasons to think that more technology in the workplace does not have to mean fewer people. Host what about the other side, though, folks like elon musk, who told governors at a recent thatring in rhode island ai is a fundamental risk for human civilization and i dont think people fully appreciate that. He said he has access to cuttingedge a. I. And based on what he has seen this is the scariest problem. Tom elon musk certainly does have access to cuttingedge technology, no one is disputing that, but there is argument on the point of the extensional threat. I wrote about musks remarks to the governors. When i spoke to other people who work on a. I. , and spent more time on it than elon, there was a sense of disappointment because this idea that, you know, some point in the future, super Intelligent Machines will perhaps harm humanity, that is such a long way from where we are today. You know, today we have systems that can do one thing, you know, it is not generalized intelligence that can take on multiple tasks. And so, it is quite hard to actually have a proper debate about that because its just so far in the future, its very speculative. And if so, i spoke to researchers who not only work on a. I. , but think about the impact on society and they saw elon musks remarks as kind of missed opportunity. He had a few minutes in front of the most powerful leaders in the u. S. To talk about the technology, which is going to potentially transform every aspect of our lives and he chose to direct it on faroff future scenario, which we really, we can talk about it right now, but we cannot really do much. Other people in the field think we should be thinking more about questions of employment, did and elon musk did mention that, to give him credit. And questions what about when the government is using these technologies for surveillance and policing and other areas like that. Host lets hear what the viewers have to say, your questions and comments here on Artificial Intelligence in the workplace. John, eastern north carolina, an independent. Youre up first. Caller yes, yes, tom, back in 1996, 97, 98, i was working with a group called spartan, they worked with blackwater, and they were all into computers for part of it. We were sitting around throwing ideas around. At that point, the cloud was just the idea of the cloud was just coming into existence. And i had a cousin that had a math degree from uc chapel hill and she told me in the late 60s which she worked for iberostar google is just like a large number, like it was a name that people were messing around with that were mathematicians, the Largest Forum of number they had come up with a name. And we tossed around an idea about a word search algorithm that would actually take the is and a and small words out of a statement sentence like you see on a website and it would try to prioritize the most important words and then it would search for a list on what was then the cloud that would actually prioritize and pull up all sites and that is how google got started, sir, they went from spartan to new york and a group of programmers, two years before google took off, started working on wordsearch algorithms that would apply to what was available from the internet and elon musk came up with and one of his partners came up, they dropped out of stanford and perfected the word search algorithm, google, i think i had a partial hand in naming google. Thank you very much. Host tom simonite, any thoughts . Guest john, what a great story, thanks for sharing it. I can yeah, we think of google as solved, using for years now. But this question of how you get computers to understand languages is one of the trickiest in Artificial Intelligence. While search works pretty good and so speech recognition is not bad either, translation is getting better. But computers still have what experts describe as a literacy problem, you know, describes them as illiterate, they cant read a sentence or inject paragraph of text and get a meaning of it. People that work in the field , that is one of the questions hanging over them, which if you want machines and we dont know right now. Host what happened with facebook recently and the research they were doing and the box they had, the program to understand language and create their own language and the controversy that surrounded that . Tom yes, so earlier in the month we saw a flurry of alarming headlines about the research at facebook, in their Artificial Intelligence labs that got out of control and how the scientists there panicked and had to shut down , really kind of hollywood imagery and that really isnt what happened. The reality of this is kind of, it was not quite that literate lurid. This was research on a piece of software that they call chat box, they can generate, write simple sentences and have a back and forth conversation with a person or each other in a very narrow sense and they were created and programmed to do one specific thing, which was play this game where you have to negotiate with another person, a partner and trade certain items, hats and books and balls. This was a test of a machinelearning idea and so these chat box could play simple game and come up with sentences like, i will swap two books for one ball and they could experiment a little bit, they could randomly try things and then see what works and if something worked, they told it more. Initially, they had programs play with each other and they were experimenting back and forth and playing a game and then they started to come up with sentences that didnt make sense. They just kind of repeated the same word over and over and just kind of garbage, really. And that wasnt scary, that was actually failure, the experiment had just hadnt worked at that point. This initial failure of experiment was kind of cast as and they could actually play with humans. They can play this one game, no other game. And the misconception came in with a media outlet, it was that this initial failure of the oferiment was like this kind almost benevolent accident and that really isnt what happened. Host william, buffalo new york, a republican. Good morning. Your question or comment. Caller i guess where im coming from, it might seem like a bit of a curveball for you, similar to as you were discussing the side effects on the general populous, we saw what innovations did to the blue collar sector about 30 or 40 years ago that had a generational effect in communities, now we see technology is coming into the white collar sector. I am sure you are aware there is a software that can write articles for you, weve seen it with baseball stats and things of that nature. And the scifi movie angle, it is not all drones and negative situations. With more of a positive approach to this saying yes, it could be , good for humanity, utilizing these things to do things for us. How from your perspective can you see us as people actually utilizing this to our advantage and not having droves of surplus population we have to figure out what to do with . Tom yeah, really important issues, william. I have to tell you, i do not have a great solution for you. Youre right, i think we as society need to engage with this and in some ways were already behind on engaging with previous technological shifts in how the economy works. I think some people probably tell you that this shift with the software becoming smarter and more flexible is happening faster, so maybe that raises the stakes even more. But i think you do see in countries around the world at that governments and policymakers are engaging more in this topic. Toward the end of the obama administration, the white house held these workshops around the country where the technology and policymakers came together to. Ook at these kinds of things employment was one of them, policing and other things, and so, yeah, i think we need to engage in this as much as possible and think about it at every level. Host to jack next in fort worth, texas, a democrat. Caller hi. I want to compliment you on the article yall had last week on darpa, it wants to build a bf detector for science, i thought that was very indepth necessary step and what i see as way to clear out this fake news and kind of clean up the sources of information. That was very indepth necessary as way to at i see clear out this fake news and of clean up the sources of information. Tie that to another project that i hope is under is to use a. I. Validate our climate science. Debate in rank or over consensus and what is effect of humans on the planets bios fear, i think a. I. Would play a crucial role in out all the ear skeptical fake arguments that i think incorporate awayed the web. Host okay. Tom simonite. Guest thanks very much. Yes. Written by my colleague about the project of darpa. Darpa is the advanced research the pentagon, they are looking into this idea of having a. I. Systems detect anomalies in science and scientific arguments that are incorrect, particularly using that on scientific information about that f social trends and kind of thing. T is good news and bad news on this point you raise. The good news, it is becoming a. I. Is a great help to scientists, were seeing that system that can kind of learn about the structure of molecules and ones. Te new i read about Research Last year where scientist could go to a program and say, i want that is halfway would usepirin and it chemistry to say, we could try this. T will accelerate development of new medicines. The value is that it is not news, it is reality that i assume that e can everyone is going to agree with what these systems come up with. So, just because i create a piece of software that analyzes of information and says, look, this is the way we should nterpret it, you know, human nature being what it is, im sure that will be plenty of so, you sagree and know, ending debate about that is on us, not the computer, see what i mean . Host ringwood, new jersey, watching on the line for republicans, youre on the air. Caller yes, thank you for my call. Im an accounting instructor, lso cpa, ive been in accounting instructor for 20 years at a State University and the Educational Forum that there is definitely on Artificial Intelligence, especially the phone, i the cell think it creates more of a one lifestyle and also i think that from a student creates t, it has tendency for students not to utilize longterm permanent memory. Let me give you an example, thinking of one class that i teach normally every semester, class i teach annuity accountingtermediate class. I find tendency for students to cell phones to put the annuity formula into cell phone longterm their permanent memory. And since that time, ive really cell phones and computers into the classroom the studentsl like arent utilizing their brains, dependent uponly some onedimensional screen to store everything for them. Is a dangerous way become. Ety to host tom simonite, do you have thoughts on that . Guest yeah, really interesting issue. By now, we have evidence that are easily distracted and smart phones and things like that distract us easily. And i believe also research out people do rely less on memorizing facts now hat they know they can turn to google. There are experiences where that is harmful, the classroom might one of them. Maybe if your brain is not devoting energy to storing hopefully we can use it for something else, maybe develop your abstract reasoning or that kind of thing, certainly something to think about. Of how humans and machines Work Together is a very informed one and one that is being investigated more and more by academic researchers and an industry, as well, so just last month in fact, google spun off a initiative around trying to understand how humans systems can Work Together. Yeah, its a big question, i think it is great that more researchers are working on it and hopefully we an figure out some answers to w it to continue to host lee, an independent. Caller i have Software Management N Organization at red stone engineering ware directorate and dr. Minsby of mit had taken leave and was teaching Artificial Intelligence of se at the University Alabama in huntsville, and i talked t course and he bout a program that he had designed that was called pogo. He this would answer any mathematical problem taken kids in boston that were considered illiterate and they took his pogo, cial intelligence and they were able to advance in average ahead of any student in the Boston School area. Happened wonder what o dr. Minski and study in Artificial Intelligence, maybe you know . Marvin minski, an incredible scientist to mit, ost of his life and pioneer in the field, he died i believe in 2015, or maybe last year. Have a huge ues to influence on the field today, laid the groundwork for a lot of and that goes on today frequently referenced in new work. And that work on education is interesting and certainly you know that is kind of a torch being carried forward by people a. I. Community today. Ost of us can understand how having a personalized Educational Program developed oneonone computer will be ideal, you know, the nature of the world is not that. One can have ut, if software is involved in assessing your work or monitoring your work, you can enerate that kind of personalized material for every there are certainly Companies Looking at that and i think promising results. Host couple minutes left here. Susan in texas, republican. Caller ive been reading about quantum computing, think ionizing how we about reality. Im a nontechnical person, but t is really a very simple concept. Apparently ibm and other working on ave been this for years, what im wondering, why arent more delving into this everywhere . For example, when i put the word elon musk and paired with the ord quantum computing on google, nothing came up. Host tom simonite . Quantum compute suggest something i write about briefly,equently, very very small scale, you know, quantum han atom, physics is very important in understanding how physical operate. And where it can happen. You can exploit that to create a computer, which the says would be incredibly owerful, many more times more powerful than the Super Computers we have today there is said, activity n and interest in this. The u. S. Government in both and military ways has been investigate thanksgiving for a long time. Pioneers, of the google has built out a lab in santa barbara, california, to this, as well. And there are startups in the area. The Quantum Computers have been far, are pretty simple, not very useful right now, but he basic principles are being proved out, the theory is holding out and so over the next five to ten years, i think, you know, we could see these things start to be very useful. Nd Artificial Intelligence is one of the uses well see them ut to, which will be interesting, potential to maybe allow some kind of big jump can do. In what machines host lets get in one last call, mary in california, democrat. The air. Are on caller thank you very much, thank you, greta and thank you, lord, for cspan, washington journal, it has rough morning. Ask tom if oing to can help in some future alzheimers, with cure for it, nd a if there can be download of our brain and thoughts and memories we want to keep that could chip could help us . Im 68 and im just thank you. That is a very good question. You let it into an interesting area. There is growing interest in directly connecting computers. Shown youeen done has can do it. There are people who have become paralyzed who regain control robotic arms using this thing that plugs into their brain. It isinterest unclear how we would do it. Building chips would connect with your brain and enhance your memory. It is not pure fantasy. People are thinking about it. People are working on it. Elon musk comes up again and again. He had a company, which is working on some of this technology. Aretivations injured soldiers of regaining limbs they lost. Robotic devices, that kind of thing. Progress is slow. It is hard to connect peters to the brain. You have to cut through the skull. Itre are issues that make compatible with the human body. In the longterm, it could be possible. Host if you want to follow more of tom simonites reporting, you can go to wired. Com or follow him on twitter. 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