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You can listen on cspan radio and our guest is the democratic representative from kentucky and a Ranking Member of the house budget committee. Good sunday morning. It we hear from trump inistration officials lets begin with the nation. Who are they and what are they . It was formed in the united andes in the early 70s 80s. By centraled american migrants who were the sons and daughters of refugees fleeing from the civil war. Started like any other and they started because of different factors. Some of them are going back to Central America are they that it grows exponentially. We have a sort of expansion in the United States. In the United States, this is states. In a number of the president tweeting out his attack. Illegal immigration policies that allowed that a gangsta form in cities across the u. S. , we are removing them fast. Which cities are they developing the most quickly . It has been in several cities for many years. In the 2000s, the fbi did a inat job removing washington, d. C. Area and boston. Thatis happening now is are starting all over again for some special conditions. They have been there, but there is no new expansion. It has been what is happening. Joining us from miami, Research Director for the latin american and Caribbean Center at the university. Attorney general Jeff Sessions last week. It is an initiation rite for them. Theyve killed mothers alongside their children and vice versa. They have gang raped and trafficked girls as young as 12 years of age. Continue allow this to , and we will not. Secure our border, expand immigration, and choke off supply lines. If you are a gang member, we will find you. Your networksate and starve your revenue sources. We will deplete your rank and we will not concede a single block to vicious corner tactics. Every neighborhood is entitled to safety in their communities. We recognize that this will not be easy. The organization here, working ,ogether to take down the mafia we can do it again. We require a commitment for not only federal state and local enforcement, but Everyday Americans that refused to allow Gang Violence to be the status quo. Host former alabama senator Jeff Sessions. Let me ask you about the administration targeting sanctuary cities. It will have a significant impact. Something to understand is that this gang is comprised by youth. By teenagers. A typical Drug Trafficking organization. About, cartel we care the other cartel, or pablo escobar. Violent. Actually very at the core, these people are ofth trying to get some sort identity. Leaders helped by other in the gang that get them into violence. Life of and criminal activity. It is important that we are dealing with this kind of network, this kind of group to Pay Attention to what is happening in the community. To have the community collaborate with enforcement and the authorities to prevent joining these kind of gangs. If we have those migrant communities. If we conduct raids in the he will not bee that successful doing with the gang because we need the community to support Law Enforcement. Ms 13 was formed by el salvador youth being bullied. The president and officials taking aim at the brutal street gang and blaming president obama. Is that fair and accurate . Actually know. An investigative journalist pointed out some weeks ago, you have to blame ronald reagan. Isolating some of these communities. Inhing these communities isolation. What we know from the fbi, in in theo thousands, basically eradicating some of these gangs on the east coast. It is opening these kind of groups. Host lets get to hear calls. With professor cruz from Florida International unity university. I heard you say that ms 13 started in l. A. Are you sure these gangs were formed in Central America and wellestablished in the countries of Central America . And members of the gangs came to l. A. Either legally or illegally . And they formed these gangs by taking over gangs that had already been established in these cities. And because of their violence and ruthlessness, theyve become the most dominant force. Host thank you. Thet it was formulated in 1980s. Some went back to el salvador. 13, theymportant, ms became famous. It is a consequence of what happened in Central America but originally, ms 13 was formed in southern california. Morning. Ood gangsis a result of these and his excuse for increasing the military budget. Once trump increases the National Guard to the point citizenshas enough joining it, the rich peoples children dont have to join. It they are rich and dont need the money. So what he will do is increase the National Guard and try to pull people against each other. Thats the real plan. Those gangs have been around for years. He wants to turn the poor people against each other. Wesley does that and start fighting, he becomes a dictator. Guest what we know from what happened in the past is to the extent that we deal with these , the use of force, these guns and up simulated. They grow up. Police intelligence and community work. We have been more successful in in centralstates and america controlling these kind of groups. Number ofas written a essays and articles on the topic and is the Research Director for latin america and the Caribbean Center. This is the president s executive order. Transnational criminal organizations and preventing international trafficking. People think about dhs and how to respond to terrorism. That is fair. It is critical to what we do. Our jobs are to secure the nation from the many threats we face. They destroy their own communities. Laws. Re ugly without the sophisticated networks. It takes it apart from truly desperate people. They send them on a course north. They are beaten and starved of what other they are carrying with them. Host writing at foxnews. Com, one of americas most dangerous gangs is funded. Guest there are vulnerable communities in the United States and Central America. Its important to have in mind that these communities need a lot of support. You have the in the 13 leadership. As buy newstarts gangs, streetcorner gangs because they find this name appealing because of the fear. They start emulating and copycatting some of these ideas. It happens that somebody moves in that community and it starts nurturing this group and making in that process, some turn to the really violent gangs. Its when the community does, what Law Enforcement does. When we put everybody or everything in the same basket. Host we get a georgian florida. Florida. To george in caller i dont think you will ever stop gains but there are also international gangs. I spent 38 years in florida. You have your russian gangs, international, black gangs. The sun just ms 13. My second comment is, when hurricane andrew hit miami, it was bad. And the spanish people put it back together in record time without any complaints, any crying. Personal, family, civic. Name one thing blacks are not number one with. The caller is on the spot. There are many gangs in the u. S. And there are clicks and sells that we havent heard about because theyre not as violent. Why is that . It depends on what the community does. It is very important to that in many cases, theyre looking for an identity. The brutal criminals that they are in ms 13. Host ron from ashland, kentucky. Caller thank you for cspan. I am a member of the motorcycle club. We have clubs in canada and in other areas. We deal with clubs that have chapters all over the world. Where do the clubs fall under what youre talking about is far as transnational gangs . We are not gangs. We are motorcycle clubs. Host were talking about violent gangs. Not clubs. Caller if you ever dealt with the angels, you can believe me they are extremely violent. Certainly there are many clubs and there are many gangs, motorcycle gangs that are violent as well. It depends on the conditions. Even different groups, some conditions may change the dynamic. Keep in mind that whatever we do, we surround the community and have an impact on that. We go to mention miami. We are to get things done. Why is that. They gangs in miami, not all of the, most of them are not violent. Hasthe community responsibility. Law enforcement, too. Caller i was going to say that not all the gangs i hear in america were started by president obama. Im sick and tired of some of the white male callers calling in whether they are republican, some were democrat that voted republican for President Trump. It calling in a trying to blame president obama for everything that happened. And President Trump is the best thing since sliced bread when he really isnt. Theyre talking about nuclear war. He spent more money in the first 100 days traveling back and forth to d. C. Than president obama did in his whole eightyear term. Host thank you. We will get a response. Guest many of the gangs didnt appear during the Obama Administration. They already have been in the United States for many, many years. So as i said before, the f. B. I. Under the Obama Administration did a wonderful job in some cities preventing the expansion of ms13 and other gangs in many cities. So i think it is important to understand that its been a long process. Gangs have been in the United States for a long time and whatever we do will determine whether these gangs will grow or not. Host dan from florida, republican line. Good morning. You are on the air with jose miguel cruz, professor at Florida International university. Caller thank you. I am a black man, so i am not going to be a white caller. Absolutely President Trump president obama owned some of this because its not that he escalated these gangs. Its that president obama was so ineffective trying to handle the situation. Trump is not the best thing since sliced bread but doesnt it feel good that we have somebody that said lets attack the gang culture . Now, the purpose of my call was because when we build this situation, we have to look at the illegal alien element. I come from a city in virginia where a young boy was just killed by three ms13 gang members. Two of those members were illegal aliens, and i am not saying they were hispanic. I am not saying that they were illegal immigrants. They were in this country illegally. They got an education here in our country illegally. Host professor, your response . Guest thank you for the call. I agree with the caller that it is important to attack the gang culture, but its also important to distinguish between the gang culture and the culture of the community where these gangs thrive. These are completely dimp things. So it is different things, so it is important not to combine the gang call tur with some of these culture with some of these communities. We need the communities to help us to fight these gangs. Now, from previous experience, we know that we need the community to work with us, attacking these gangs. We need the community, not only migrants but also u. S. Citizens who most of the gang members who are in the United States are born and raised in the United States. So its important to understand that we need to tackle all those conditions in order to deal with gangs. Host if people want to follow you on twitter, how can they do so . At they can follow me jose miguel cruz. Host he is also the Research Director for areas of latin american nations joining us from miami on this sunday. Thank you for being with us. Guest thank you. Host a brandnew book and the coauthors here to talk about it. The book is titled shattered inside Hillary Clintons doomed campaign. You are watching and listening to cspans washington journal on this sunday morning. A back to workweek for congress and we are back in one moment. 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Thats monday night at 8 00 eastern on cspan2. Washington journal continues. Host this is the book, shattered inside Hillary Clintons doomed campaign. The coauthors, jonathan allen, amie parnes, thank you for being with us. Lets go right to it. You both write, quote, she, hillary, had let president obama down, she had let herself down, she had let her party down and her country down. Obamas legacy and her dreams of the presidency lay shattered at Donald Trumps feet. This was on her. Amie parnes . Guest this quote is

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