Host we will go to john joining us from west palm beach, florida. Caller good morning. I wish that guy in south dakota would get out of his cave. I used to be a democrat, i got out of my cave. Talking about Hillary Clinton that is like asking eisenhower to run in 1976. 24 years ago, it was bill clinton. The same thing with the bushes. The mother said it best, she is the only one i liked. The biggest mistake reagan ever made was choosing george senior as the Vice President. As far as the candidates for the republicans, scott walker is not the best speaker but he is proven that he can do the job of being governor of his state. We need a governor, we do not need a Community Organizer again. I would love to see mitt romney. He would make a neck some president but he is wrong with immigration. Rick perry is the same way. He talks so tough, but it does not show it in action as far as immigration. Illegal immigration. We need to make that distinction, not immigration illegal immigration. Host thank you for the call. This is from tag who says jeb bush is polished and language that would appeal to a more diverse population. He would be the toughest competition for clinton. The question we are asking, could you like for the white house in 2016 . Caller i listen to talk radio. I endured practically 18 hours of of gop lovefest. It was on the edge of comedy. I am a Bernie Sanders man. Elizabeth warren interest me very much. I would like to know what was funny yesterday though was how speaker after speaker got up and said it is obamas recession. Give me a break. The conservatives ran this country into the ditch in 2008. Thank you for cspan. Host thank you for the call. Next is ellis joining us from augusta, georgia. Caller good morning. Republicans actually donald trump enjoys ratings. That is what he is about. I would love to have Hillary Rodham clinton to be president of the United States. The first woman president of the United States. I do hope that the republicans will nominate another whoops president. Host the president , who is in india. There is a story on just how much it costs to travel when abroad. The Washington Post, looking at some of the facts and myths with president ial travel. The president holding a News Conference this morning, talking about Economic Development in india. The top six developments in u. S. india relations. Who do you like in 2016 . Caller he knows what is going on. They were talking about the republicans need to win. The one guy just said i know. I just called in a letter to him. Host we appreciate your conscience we appreciate your comments. This is from times magazine. Cheap gas, how low will it go . The Weekly Standard out this weekend, cars on the move is the cover story. Arnold, democrats line. Caller good morning. I love your type. Youre always gq for me. The Republican Party, they need to wake up. Im a lifelong democrat. They need to wake up. They need to lose their hatred for barack obama. They need to lose the hatred for seeing donald trump become our next president. He could have a running mate, such as i think that both of those would work together. I know that anyone in the government he would fire them and hire someone who do the job right. Host thank you for the call. This was former governor jeb bush. [video clip] i have said some stupid things in my life. I said something when i ran for governor in 1994 that was taken out of context but i should have been smart enough to have said it differently. It was in a debate. What are you going to do for me . I was young and rambunctious in 1994. I said, probably nothing. That was the wrong answer. What i said was probably nothing. What i think we need to do is create a society where everyone gets to start at the same starting line. And we strive for quality of opportunity. I believe that today. You could have a provocative thought, but you do not have to say you have to say you do not have to say it in a way that turns people off. That is the problem today. We do not work hard to use language. The bigger the idea, the more you have to use language that does not scare people or insult them. Ive gotten better at that. That is what happens when you get older and your life experience. This is what happens. This is called wisdom, i hope. It is great but there are some things we all regret im sure. Host jeb bush. That is part of our Video Library at cspan. Org. Another viewer saying dr. Carson is a fine man. Who do you like in 2016 . Bobby is joining us on the republican line. Caller i believe carson did a great job. Donald trump. Rick perry. We are so faulted so far to the left. We have to get our country, at least to the middle. We are hurting. Lack of close border. Anyone can walk in. Drug cartels are controlling our borders, especially on the mexican side. We have iran controlling we desperately need to get our country back. The method the next thing we need is another liberal. I hope that some of these good people run and i hope they win. We can we cannot see another clinton. She did a terrible job at the state department. We need to wake up. Host thank you for the call. The anniversary later this week. Generic 25th 1945. January 25, 1945. This a story this morning however with is misunderstood. How auschwitz is misunderstood. A piece in the New York Times on the upcoming anniversary of the liberation of auschwitz. We will go to jeremiah from cleveland, ohio. Good morning. Caller i was listening to the caller intently. Were all being crazy. Just like ross perot, donald trump might be the only potential candidate that will not kowtow to the environment agenda, especially since you just mentioned the narrative of the heart of of the holocaust. To make that ceremonial trip. Host what he means pseudonarrative of auschwitz . Caller there is a luminous amount of material as far a census information and things of that nature. I find that the greatest scholars are actually israelis. Host what is your point . Caller the point is, this nation needs to stop kowtowing to the zionist changeup. There needs to be some honesty to bring about some of the correct narrative of that whole situation. Host what narrative do you think is wrong . Caller because we do not have a time. We always glance over the meeting of paris, versailles. We always glance over the british deal with the zionist agenda. Host im going to stop you there back. We are going to move on. Who do you like for the white house in 2016 . Caller i like Hillary Clinton. I am a democrat. I try to tell the truth all the time. They have the right to talk. They tell lies. Sometimes, you have to call out the lies and these people on television, they have been lying up and down. Continually. 90 of cspan, conservative span is about the republicans. Come on now. The republicans listen to your show. I think we should at least do not tell me that. Host i think we are fair. We covered this event yesterday because it was an all day event. We have covered many democratic advance as well. Events as well. There is no bias. We do not pinpoint thewe dont colors pinpoint the callers. You will see an array of opinions from all sides. Caller i appreciate what you are saying. Iwatch span all the time but i watched cspan all the time. Even the guests that you allow on that man is not a republican. That man is a republican hack. He is on on the shows talking about the virtues of he is on all the shows talking about the virtues of republicans. Not all republicans are good or bad. Guest host thanks for starting your day. Hope you continue to watch. Hopefully, you will hear the variety of opinions we try to do. Thank you very much. We are going to take a short break. We will continue our discussion on road to the white house 2016 with two political operatives, one from New Hampshire and one from iowa, joining us from manchester and des moines. First, from cspans newsma kers, Jeb Hensarling. The full interview is available on our website and airing at 10 00. Here is a ocean of that conversation a portion of that conversation. [video clip] youve had a bill that would wind down all support. Thats not true. I would push back. Outside of the it has a pretty big footprint in the market. Wind down fannie and freddie and not replace them. The senate had a bill that would replace them. Do you think you would be willing to move more in that direction in compromise with the Senate Version or are you planning to move forward with something similar to what you were doing last year . There is a change in management. I think that is a good thing. Really, the American People do too. I am strongly believe i have strong beliefs about where republican policy ought to go. I stand ready to advance policies for principles. Does this bill take a step in the right direction or in the wrong direction . Im always interested. Im always willing to sit down with the administration and certainly willing to sit down with my colleagues in the senate and find a way forward to a Sustainable Housing finance system. I dont often go across the pond and look at europe for ideas on public policy, but i do note there are a number of moderate, industrialized nations around the world, including in europe that have very healthy housing financed systems and have nothing remotely resembling our government backstop, fannie and freddie. It is not just theory. I have evidence you can have a successful model. Our conversation with the chair of the House Financial Services committee, Jeb Hensarling from texas. You can watch it in its entirety at 10 00 a. M. Eastern time. Host we continue our look at road to the white house 2016. Joining us from des moines iowa is Steve Scheffler with the faith and freedom forum. And Fergus Cullen. We want to begin with deep scheffler. With Steve Scheffler. A lot of attention on the events yesterday put together by congressman steve king. Whats your take away . Guest we saw a large group of people who were enthused and motivated. Ive never seen the intensity and the enthusiasm that i saw in that hall yesterday and that im seeing around the state. It is pretty exciting here in iowa. Host some are calling this the most open republican primary since 1940. Guest i think that is correct. I dont think there is any front runner here in iowa. I think the candidates have come here often and communicate with the voters oneonone and set up a good infrastructure and organization and have a fair shot. I didnt see anybodys guess as to who might come out on top in 2016 here in the caucuses. Host who was the audience at the Freedom Summit . Guest people from all over the state, activists. I would guess 99. 9 of the people will go to their caucuses. This is their first point of entry by which to gain information where a candidate fans stands, how they interact with people, their perceptions of how they might fit in to 2016. Host let me ask about the demographics of New Hampshire. Its a very different set of voters that candidates are going after from the Iowa Caucuses which tend to be more conservative. Explain the difference, if you would. Guest the primary is open to lots more voters, including independents. The iowa caucus is restricted to republicans. Independents are allowed to vote in the primary if they choose. Eventually calls dont dominate evangelicals dont dominate in New Hampshire the way they might in iowa. It is a much more. From that candidates find in New Hampshire it is much more full spectrum that candidates find in New Hampshire. Host we have a line set aside for those of you who live in New Hampshire or ohio. That number is 202 7480003. You can also join the conversation a lot of you sharing thoughts on our facebook page. Or send us a tweet. Fergus cullen, mitt romney says he is thinking about a third bid for the white house. What is your reaction . Guest there is a lot of respect for mitt romney here. There is a lot of goodwill. He has campaigned here twice before. In 2008, he received 32 of the vote. He built on that in 2012 and one the primary going away with 39 of the vote. Its a large base of people who like and respect him and wish he were president today. What are not sensing is a great deal of enthusiasm for a third bid. There is interest and respect. He has to hold onto a significant portion of the base he has established but not all of it. I think a lot of those voters will be open to considering other candidates. They are well disposed towards mitt romney. Broadly like and respected within the party. Whether there is an appetite for third bid remains be seen. Host Steve Scheffler, what about iowa voters on mitt romney . Guest people want to take a look at the candidates. Others have a reservoir of support. He will be be they will be looking a new and trying to wait each candidate they will be looking anew and trying to wegh each to weigh each candidate. Host we were live all day yesterday with the Freedom Summit. All of it is on our website, including many of the News Conferences that took place in an adjoining room. Among those speaking, senator ted cruz, the possibility of two texas politicians, ted cruz and rick perry running for president. Here is what he had to say. [video clip] i was washed out in west texas and i said, the thing about folks from epa unlike lettuce, you cant use pesticide against them. An old farmer looked at me and said wanna bet . [laughter] and the most important Regulatory Reform we could do is we need to repeal every word of obamacare. [applause] we need tax reform, and the most important tax reform we could do is we need to abolish the irs. [end video clip] host what kind of reaction did he get . Guest he got a phenomenal reaction. I think he gets the reaction he does because iowans are keen on watching what their elected officials do. They know the Obama Administration has gone way beyond its constitutional rights. There is frustration on the part of iowans and americans and they dont want to see another extension of the Obama Administration. They are really dedicated to seeing a republican elected in 2016. Host this is the headline from Bloomberg Politics on ted cruz make sure the candidates prove they are conservative. That became part of the message yesterday, as well as the miracle of america that he referred to. On the message of trying to prove the candidates are conservative, where does that with the Republican Party you go Republican Party [captioning performed by national captioning institute] the Republican Party . Guest he seems to have built his brand by saying that other mainstream conservatives are sellouts or compromisers. Im looking for a little more pregnant missing more pragmatism. A sense of awareness that he needs to get 50 of the vote nationally and not just win over audiences like that one yesterday in iowa. I havent seen that from senator cruz yet. Host what about jeb bush he told jeb bush . He gave a lengthy speech on some of the issues he would run on, including immigration and education. Guest i think the more candidates we have in iowa, the better. The with it iowa voters the way that that way, the iowa voters have a large caucus. After iowa, New Hampshire, South Carolina the more that he can be here to engage with people one on one and the American People would be helpful. He needs to come here sooner than later, in my view. Host more from yesterdays speeches. Chris christie was one of the final speakers at the event. [video clip] for too long, republicans have tried to figure a few extra votes in places like ohio and florida. If our conservatism is really going to succeed, it must be able to defend itself in every art of this country. There are americans, i know this, in every state, who share our goals, who want to work with us, and we should be appealing to all of them. If we are going to restore this country and its promise, we need a coalition that covers all parts of the country, all ethnicities, a coalition comprised at its core of our proud yet underserved and underrepresented in class in this country. [end video clip] host let me ask you about how he is playing in New Hampshire. He made a number of appearances in the midterm elections for republican candidate for governor for a republican candidate for governor who lost. Guest Chris Christie spent a lot of time in New Hampshire. He did something very shrewd in New Hampshire last year. He salted operatives from his new jersey operation into the statewide campaigns of scott brown, our u. S. Senate nominee the republican governor nominee, and also at the state Republican Party. He has his own crew of operatives who have built their own roles and people they have relationships with that they can now extend on behalf of Chris Christie. He is in the sweet spot of the New Hampshire electorate. That message that you ruled take on is 1 he rolled that you rolled tape on is one that will go over well with New Hampshire voters. Host he has been to iowa 11 times in the last couple of years. Guest it was great that he came. For the longterm picture, he benefited or help himself or helped himself. If he would be the nominee, i think this crowd would remember that he came here and tried to have a conversation with them. I think he did himself a lot of good in the long term by being here and engage in with voters. Host we want to get your phone calls. Before we do so, Fergus Cullen you are writing a book on the New Hampshire primary. We can across an interesting piece. This photograph dates back to 1960. The vote in New Hampshire giving nixon nine votes. The first in the nation primary and first in the nation vote that takes place every year the fight just a first the fight to stay first. They insist that they will again be ready to host the first of the nation vote that takes place. Explain why this is so important. Guest it is a tiny town in the North Country that is dominated by one resort hotel. Every candidate, republican or democrat, has made the pilgrimage to this place over the years. They cast votes starting at midnight on election day. They close the balance when every member of the community has voted which typically happens before 12 30 a. M. In the morning. They have to keep the polls open as long as everyone is voting. If there is one holdout, it has to be holiday. It is an example it has to be held all day. It is an example of how New Hampshire and iowa work. Most of them are going to lose. One reason why iowa and New Hampshire have worked historically is because the defeated candidates go home and said, i had my shot, i was given a fair hearing, i have no complaints about the process. It is embodied by these communities across the state of New Hampshire and iowa. Host there are a couple of other locations. Guest there is a much bigger community, Something Like 80 registered voters. It is a community activity. Every member of the community who is registered to vote has to agree to show up at midnight. They make celebration of it. It is a great moment of democracy. They hold their townhome in somebodys basement. Thats where the town meeting is march is held in march every year. Host when is your book coming out . Guest it looks like in the summer. Today is the anniversary of when john f. Kennedy lost his president ial campaign in 1960. He was speaking to a rotary club that day. John f. Kennedy launched his president ial campaign in 1960. He was speaking to a rotary club that day. Host good morning. Caller i heard something frightening after ben carson was done and they were questioning him. Someone asked him if he thought women who had abortions or doctors who performed them should be put in jail. To me, that was very frightening. I wondered how your guests felt about that. I would think that would really sink the women vote. You will not lowlevel drug offenders out of jail and replace the now with women that have had abortions. Host do you want to respond . Guest i cant comment on that. I never heard that conversation. I have no knowledge of that particular conversation at all. Host the house of representatives pulled a vote that would restrict lateterm abortions after 20 weeks, many saying that was done with an eye on 2016. Fergus cullen, your thoughts . Guest its always an issue in primaries. Ive seen polling data that suggests 1 3 of the electorate describes themselves as strongly prochoice, another as strongly prolife, and another third in the middle. There will be candidates on both sides of the issue. The chips will fall where they may, politically. She can best host Governor Walker pointing out he spent some time in iowa growing up and said he would come back. [video clip] in america, it is one of the few places left in the world where it doesnt matter what class you were born into, doesnt matter what your parents did for a living. In america, the opportunity is equal for each and every one of us. But in america, the ultimate outcome is up to each and every one of us individually. [applause] you see, there is a reason there is a reason why in america we take a day off to celebrate the fourth of july and not 15th of april. We value your independence from the government not our dependence on it, to keep that going forward. [end video clip] host Governor Scott walker from our coverage yesterday. We will go to the independent line. Good morning. You are on the air. Go ahead please. Caller there are white folks and then there are ignorant host im going to move on. We apologize for that type of call and comment. Robert from South Carolina democrats line. Good morning. Caller george bush ran into thousand as a compassionate conservative. Ran in 2000 as a compassionate conservative. The compassion . Where is the compassion . Guest i think republicans are talking about people being able to pull themselves up by their bootstraps. The message to republicans is being able to find a job, being independent and productive in society, not dependent on government as most of the democrats propose. Host this is a headline from the houston chronicle. Senator cruz, former senator perry setting the tone. How will this impact what you will see in New Hampshire . Guest governor perry is scheduled to return to New Hampshire in a couple of weeks. He will be in dover, New Hampshire, for a speech. This is his second time around. His first time around didnt go so well. He will be given a Second Chance to make a first impression, but he is burdened by the campaign he ran last time, which was very disappointing to a lot of people. Came in with a lot of hype. He let those people down throughout the course of the campaign. I think he is going to get that second hearing. People are going to give him a chance. We will see whether it ends up being something that can move forward or not. As for ted cruz, he campaigns very well at the base of the party. He seems to distinguish himself by picking fights with other republicans and suggesting that a lot of mainstream conservatives are some kind of sellouts. I dont think a lot of people appreciate that. Whether both of those fantasies can survive to the filing period those campaigns can survive to the filing period we will see. Host we will go to la mirada, california. Caller good morning. Im going to voice my opinion that the best candidates to be electable would be Mike Huckabee and dr. Ben carson as Vice President. I have watched Mike Huckabee for years. He doesnt change his opinions. His plans for the country are just as right on with the republican audience. He wants to close the borders. He wants to strengthen our security, especially when it comes to supporting israel. Im in favor of supporting israel much more than our president obama has done. Host thanks very much for the call. Fergus cullen. Microscopy, another candidate who has run before, coming back potentially Mike Huckabee, another candidate who has run before, coming back essentially in 2016. Guest he did well. In New Hampshire, he only got 11 of the vote. He finished third in that race well behind john mccain and mitt romney. His particular brand that year being evangelical conservative strong on social issues, did not tell as well in New Hampshire did not sell as well in New Hampshire as it did in iowa. As for dr. Carson, he obviously has a great biography and very interesting story. Whether this prevents him well as a National Candidate for federal office is another question. In 2012, we had a lot of republican candidates running for president who may be did not deserve to be taken as seriously as some of them were. It remains to be seen whether ben carson is that kind of candidate or can be part a substantive part of the debate. Host heard coasttocoast on cspan radio, the conversation on Republican Party politics and the 2016 president ial race Steve Scheffler is joining us from des moines. He is with the iowa faith and freedom coalition. Joining us from New Hampshire is Fergus Cullen, the former chair of the New Hampshire Republican Party. Next, a caller from massachusetts. Independent line. Good morning. Caller good morning. Please dont cut me off. To all the people in america, i want you to listen. Hello . Host we can hear you. Go ahead. Caller to this. Listen to this. President reagan, when he got into the white house, he had 800 in deficit and took it to 17 trillion. Clinton took it down. President bush took it back up to 17 trillion. In america in a situation like that who would you want in america in a situation like that . Why are gas prices going down . President obama. All the national gas in america should not be exported to another country and sold to another country. It should stay in america. Thats why gas prices are going down. Nobody is saying that. Thank you. Host glenn from massachusetts. Thank you. Comment from either of you . Guest i think this facts are not right on. We could be here all day discussing all of that. His facts are just not in good perspective. Host i want to ask you about jeb bush. He was in San Francisco. He began his speech talking about his brother. So much discussion about bush fatigue. Heres a reference he made to his brother, the former president , george w. Bush. [video clip] a lot of people ask about my brother. He has been kind of out of the limelight. And since you asked marvin is doing spectacularly well. [laughter] george and laura are doing well. He has become a painter. Who would have thunk it . Hes actually really good at it, because he is a person of incredible determination, like many of you in this room. When he sets a goal, he works hard to achieve it. I like and admire the fact that he has self restraint something that would be hard for me to do. I think he has been very respectful of his successor and hasnt been out on television sniping away making challenging president obama. It might be tough for him to do that, i dont know but i respect that he has allowed the president to serve. It is a noble tradition that i hope continues in this country. I love my brother and i love his service to this country. [applause] [end video clip] host jet in jeb bush in San Francisco. The full event is on our website. You hear him talk about george bush. The references to bush fatigue. Your comments . Guest the bush incomes with some baggage but the bush name comes with some baggage but i dont think there is any question that it is not positive inner republican primary in a republican primary. There is a doubleedged sword. Jeb has a strong record of his own as governor in florida. The message he delivered in San Francisco i thought was excellent and an important counterpoint to some of the messages we heard coming out of iowa yesterday. With respect to that event, it is important no that mitt romney and it is important to note that mitt romney and Jeb Bush Marco Rubio and rand paul stayed away from it. They didnt want to be associated with steve king. They were leery of looking like they were pandering to the base. Jeb bush said that not what my candidacy is going to be about that is not what my candidacy is going to be about. We had a dearth of candidates serious candidates. Jeb bush as death to that jeb bush adds depth to that. Host your comments . The conversation with jeb bush . Guest i think he needs to come here to iowa. I would disagree with cullen a little bit in regards to people yesterday just pandering to the base. 3 joni ernst has a conservative voting record. She could clieccked with iowans. Many times as candidates dived to the center, candidates dive to the center, they lose the center. It is important that candidates dont have a mushy message are articulate and show how they can improve things in the country. Host this is the headline from the Des Moines Register. Randy from virginia, good morning. Caller i think the republicans need to have a more specific agenda. More like the contract with america when they had it. We will do this, this, and this. I think they need to focus on the economy and jobs and energy. I think the Health Care Issue is important, but coming up with enough hundreds of that with an alternative to that would be a mistake. Host Fergus Cullen, did you want to answer comment . Guest the republican response on health care cant be dont get hurt, dont get old, dont get sick. We need to have a message on health care that acknowledges this is a serious concern. When a loved one becomes sick, it doesnt become about ideology but about practicality, and being able to pay for it. Republicans need a message beyond just we need to reveal Obamacare Repeal obamacare. We cant just leave it there. That is a mistake of the Republican Base going back to when we fought hillarycare in the 1990s. With Hillary Clinton running, we will have a chance to talk about in this cycle as well. Host there is this tweet. If it is ok to say no to another clinton, why is it not ok to say no to another bush . Same dynasty problem. Guest they will have to sort this out when they come to New Hampshire. It is too early to figure out whether people are are not receptive to that whether people are or are not receptive to that. Host chris on the democrats line. Caller im from indiana. I have a question. I heard on the news and on tv that ted cruz was born in canada. How can he run for president . And then, i dont know, i say Hillary Clinton all the way. I think it is time for a woman. I want democrats to realize only 36 of us voted in the last elections. I tell her republicans enjoy their two years. This is all you are going to have. What i see in congress does my mind about abortion and everything else. I would never ever vote for a republican. Thank you for letting me do my comment. Host thanks for the call from indiana. Senator cruz did make reference to growing up the first two or three years of his life in calgary, canada, before heading back to test texas with his parents. Host anyone can run for president. They all are running until they say they arent running. Ted cruz could spend the next year running for president without triggering any constitutional question, doing things like he did yesterday. Whether he is technically eligible to place his name on the ballot, i guess that is a question for other legal experts, not for me. Host is that an issue that could come up in primaries and caucuses whether he was born in this country or in canada . Guest i dont think so at this stage. I think that is more a question for lawyers and constitutional experts. Host mike in iowa, good morning. Caller good morning. Thanks for taking my call. Host thank you. Caller it is obvious that the two argues parties republicans and democrats the democrats show me they care about the working man, the working family. All i hear from republicans is tax cuts for the rich, for corporations. Forget the working class. The population is more middleclass than rich. Who are you attracting . Im a little confused by their message. They are prolife. These are the same guys who go and vote for war. How can you reconcile these two points . Isnt the war about killing . Do you just care about the unborn . What about the living . So the republicans need to get back to basics, like the basic Republican Party, who believed that believed in equal opportunity for everyone. And if youre going to get a break to the rich, you should consider giving a break to the poor. We are not looking for handouts, just a platform where we can all grow and take advantage of the opportunities offered in this country. Host where in iowa do you live . Caller i dont live in iowa. This is the only way i could get through. Host thank you for your call. We ask that you be honest when you tell us where you are phoning from. Host guest with all due respect, that is the same rhetoric weve been hearing since the days of franklin d. Roosevelt. The republicans are opposed republicans want to give people an opportunity to pull themselves up by their bootstraps. The democrats want to keep people dependent on the government. The facts do not line up with the colors comments the callers comments. Caller host what is happening behind the scenes in your state . Guest i havent talked to him about that conversation he had but i think it is encouraging that they spoke. Im sure that he encouraged him to come to iowa, as he has all of the candidates. Our state Central Committee that im part of signed a pledge of neutrality. We welcome all candidates to come to iowa to make their case. Im sure the conversation entailed him coming to iowa and participating in the discussion. Host next, a caller from pennsylvania, independent line. Caller thank you for taking my call. Im interested in one of the two speakers [indiscernible] how would they vote if there was a female candidate for president in 2016 . The republican, independent, or Democratic Party. How republican women would vote for a female candidate . Host your thoughts . Guest i think that a woman candidate shouldnt be running as a woman candidate. She should be running as a republican yen candidate who republican candidate who happens to be a woman. I think Carly Fiorina has gotten that right. Michele bachmann ran a couple years ago as well. She didnt run as a woman candidate. She ran as a conservative candidate who happened to be a woman. It has to be a candidate who appeals to everyone within the party. There are lots of conservative women. You mentioned joni ernst, who is one. We have senator kelly ayotte as well. She will be running for reelection, presumably, next year. It is a broad party. I think the fact that the party needs to do a better job of appealing to women voters is a lesson we have learned through trial and error and some of the past election cycles, one taken seriously by all of the candidates, along with appealing to workingclass voters. We are always preparing to fight the last war. Republicans learned a lot of lessons from some of the areas where mitt romney did not have as much appeal as we would have liked to have seen. Host Steve Scheffler. I want to share with you this column. Basically, what hes saying is that steve king, the congressman from your state, is making the Iowa Caucuses irrelevant. For the last decade for the last decade, the iowa caucus has let steve king lead the party. Guest it doesnt line up with the fact caller the facts at all. He won his biggest election victory here by about 24 once. Points. Any republican audience in iowa, he gets a great response. He fits well with the base here in iowa and across the country. He is not making the caucasus irrelevant at all the caucus irrelevant at all. We are all proud of him. It doesnt line up with the facts. Host lets go to treat or to to shreveport. Do you think that bobby jindal will run . Caller i think he is running more for Vice President. I voted for him twice down here. He does not live in the state. I think his campaign is going to be shortlived. My question to both of the gentleman from louisiana the other 48 states, we dont have the opportunity to have facetoface conversations with the candidates, like you do. Im jealous of you guys. I think you do a great job of being a filter to see how these people work with small crowds. But my problem is that this summer in iowa, someone can state that im going to have a Backyard Barbecue for my neighbors. You have a dozen neighbors show up. You probably have five president ial candidates show up to talk to them. I could have a barbecue for 10,000 people in louisiana and i wont get one to show up. Host Fergus Cullen, you are writing about the first in the nation i very first in the nation primary. You have a viewer who is jealous. Guest i appreciate the sentiment. I think it is important that kind of experience happens. They have earned the privilege over decades of service. No amount of money can win the primary in iowa or New Hampshire. A candidate who cant sell in Small Group Settings is going to be exposed. Someone who comes in as a phony is going to be exposed in the process. There are going to be real moments that are unscripted that will happen in those kinds of settings. There is the moment famously in 2008 when Hillary Clinton almost broke down a couple days before the primary acknowledging the amount of pressure on her. It made her look human. Thats the kind of thing that cant happen in a tv studio and, as authentic and come off as authentic. It is so important that our campaigns and candidates have to go through that kind of trust us that kind of process. Otherwise it is froms downs from sound studio to sound studio, airport tarmac, and they never interact with a human in the process for running for president. In the white house, it will be years before they have to deal with real americans come up to New Hampshire as a tourist and experience some of it yourself firsthand. That might be the way to do it. Host an automated post poll showing mitt romney is first among those who were surveyed at 29 . Jeb bush at 11 . Chris christie and scott walker tied at 8 each. In Texas Democrats line. Good morning. Caller thanks for taking my call. Im baffled. My concern is, do the Republican Party really think they can win the presidency of the United States by alienating progressive whites blacks, hispanics, union voters gay voters and women voters . Newsflash, you cannot. If you cannot win the presidency, you will not repeal obamacare. They are concerned about immigration, but not one republican is willing to stand up and say they are willing to put every undocumented person in this country in interment camps. As far as im concerned, hillary is already president. Thanks for taking my call. Host thank you for the call from texas. Steve scheffler, did you want to respond . Guest again, i think we have a great candidates. Reince previous right previous rinse previous reince did a great job in terms of reaching out to africanamerican voters and other communities. There will be more and more communication with those types of voters. I expect candidates to do much better with those demographic. We are communicating with them and making them understand that we are the party of the people and the Democratic Party is not. Host good sunday morning. Thanks for joining in the conversation. Caller good morning. I am registered republican for 50 years. I moved from new york to maine 20 years ago. I find in maine and New Hampshire, like this young fellow from New Hampshire, they call themselves republic ends but they are republicans, but they are about as far away from being republican as i can imagine. They do not stand or what is right in this country they do not and for what is right in this country they do not stand for what is right in this country. Susan collins votes more with immigrants democrats and liberal and progressives than any other. When they start attacking people in iowa for being conservative tea party members, what are you . If you arent for this country then get the hell out of the way. If you are for this country then listen to these candidates. Listen to walker. Listen to dr. Ben carson. Listen to people who have decent ideas about what this country was and what it can go back to. Host thanks for the call. More of a comment, not a question. Fergus cullen, did you want to respond . Guest thats exactly the kind of water that these candidates have to navigate, in places like iowa, New Hampshire, South Carolina. Are you just campaigning for the Republican Base, or are you trying to appeal to enough voters to win the general election as well . Candidates need to do both are they wont be successful in the end. I think that politics is a game of multiplication and addition. Candidates will succeed when they can appeal to the broadest number of voters not just a segment within the party. There are other voters who disagree strongly with that, who would argue that it is all about purity and would rather lose an election than be seen as compromising in any way. That is personally not my view, but it is not held by perhaps 1 3 of the rebel can base of the Republican Base. Host good morning. Caller good morning, steve. Thank you for taking my call. I would like to make a couple of comments addressing a couple things ive heard said on your program. The gentleman from iowa talking about the compassionate conservatives, saying that conservatives were interested in getting people a job and not dependent on the government. As a democrat, im interested in getting people a job that will pay them enough to keep them away from the federal government programs. The other gentleman was talking about how broad the Republican Party was. Put up a picture of the leadership in congress as it currently stands right now. Look and compare the leadership positions and see which one reflects the look of america more. Maybe they could explain that. Host i appreciate the call. Steve scheffler from the iowa faith and freedom coalition. Guest as Mike Huckabee mentioned in his speech yesterday, the democrats talk a lot about the minimum wage, but we should be talking about the maximum wage. We are talking about the opportunity for people to bring himself up by their bootstraps. The Republican Party is the party of hope and opportunity. Thats what we need to head down , as opposed to making people dependent on the government. The democrats have set up so many social welfare programs that it is not an inducement to work. Host among these 2012s winner of the Iowa Caucuses, former senator Rick Santorum, in attendance yesterday. [video clip] in the 22 or 23 debates held in the last election cycle, i think there was one debate on the subject, maybe one or two questions and most during the Debate National security. Remember, the war was over. In lawton was dead. Al qaeda bin ladin was dead. Al qaeda was defeated. Extremism was gone. And what has happened since . We have seen the impacts of isolationism. We have seen the impact of weakness on the part and indecision on the part of an american president. An inexperienced raw american president who had ideologies that did not face reality. [end video clip] host for somebody who won in 2012 in your state whats the chance of him coming back and winning a second time . Guest again, i think it is way too early. I doubt that more than 10 of the people in the audience yesterday left that for him that forum thinking, yeah, thats the person im going to sport in the iowa caucus next year. Rick santorum has been underestimated before. He came to iowa and visited all of the counties. To underestimate him at this point i think is not a good thing. He and governor huckabee and mitt romney there might be Higher Expectations for the other candidates. If he works hard here, anything could happen. Host this is what the Washington Post map looks like. Reince, chair of the rnc truncating the caucus calendar. The bulk of delegates will be selected in march. A 70day window between the start of the process in iowa until what many are calling a super super tuesday with a winner take all primary state with the winner takes all primary states in march. Guest family that there seems to be more order guest i am relieved that there seems to be more order in the way the calendar is coming together. When we had the iowa caucus happen on january 3 and New Hampshire on the eighth, you had candidates struggling with holidays and what kind of commercials do you put up around christmas. There was a threat that primaries or caucuses might take place the your talent a calendar year before the election, which was real problem. The fact that we have rationalized the process is a good thing for voters, for candidates, and for the process. Host kimberly, good morning. Caller good morning. Thank you for taking my call. It was scary calling on the independent line after hearing the last colors callers. Im definitely giving my faith into ted cruz. Im hoping Dennis Michael lynch will put his hat in the race. America needs to wake up. We need to get rid of the big government, get rid of the banks controlling the government. People are corrupt. That is pretty much my point of view. Im enjoying listening to the two gentlemen. Im glad you are there to be representatives for the people. Getting to know the candidates. Host thanks for the call. Steve scheffler did you want to respond to her sentiment . Guest i think we do have overall, we have a phenomenal set of candidates with different perspectives different backgrounds. Thats why it is going to be exciting do that these candidates exciting to vet these candidates. It is more important to have these conversations, like this forum, where the American People can digest and scrutinize these candidates, where theyre coming from so they can begin the process by which to make their final decisions. I think weve got the best set of candidates weve ever had in all my years of political involvement. Host regardless of who the nominee is on your side of the aisle, what is the 2016 Campaign Going to be all about for the republicans . What is the message . Guest i do think it needs to be more use of and broader than perhaps we communicated as effectively as we wished we had in 2012. Things like the 47 47 line linger. Scott walker trying to appeal to more than 53 of the voters this time around. Thats important. If Hillary Clinton is the democratic nominee, its going to be a lot about her as well. Eight years ago, everyone thought the republicans would be running against Hillary Clinton. It did not work out so well for senator clinton that time around but it may work better for her this time around. For her this time around. Republicans understand that we have to be able to appeal to a broad section of america to earn the votes of some 60 of americans, and make sure our message reaches that the people that group of people. That includes having a more inclusive approach on immigration, one that recognizes the contributions that immigrants make in america and that does not try to deport as many kids as quickly as we can. I think it will be forwardlooking. I think the republicans have learned lessons from mistakes in the past. I think its going to be a great campaign. 120, and we will get the democratic perspective in just a moment with Steve Mcmahon, long time democrat Insurance Company strategist to look at the 2016 field. Hillary clinton. Other democrats in the case question mark . Coming up in stwroment. Later, more of your calls and comments as we open our phone lines. You are watching and listening to washington journal on sunday morning, january 25th. We are back in a moment. Scan. Andrew keen author of the the internet is not the ants on how the public is being used by Internet Companies for their profit. In the Industrial Age people we want to work in factories. They were paid. They worked 9 00 to 5 00 and did what they want with that money. Today, we are all working in these factories like google like facebook, like twitter but we are unpaid labor, working 241 hours a day not rewarded. Its not en acknowledged that we are creating the value for them. And worse than that, we are the ones who are being packaged up as the product because, of course what these companies are doing is learning more and more about us from our behavior from what we publish, from our photographs, from our ideas, from what we buy, from what we say, from what we dont satisfy. They are learning about us creating it. They are transforming us repackaging us as the product. We are the ones being sold. Not only are we working for free. But then we are being sold. So, its the ultimate scam the perfect hitchcock movie. On q and a at 8 00 p. M. Specific. Washington journal continues. We want to welcome back Steve Mcmahon. You twit other what handle . Guest i actually dont twitter much. I should twitter more but i am plenty business in on or about ways. Host mcmanondem. If you want to try to follow me i will try to do better. Host lets talk about the hill democratic field. Lets talk about jim webb. How serious is his candidacy . Guest he is a serious candidate. How seriously it will be taken in iowa and New Hampshire remains to be seen. He is the antiestablishment, antieverything, antiidentity politics. He was a senator from virginia for six years as you know Ronald Reagans secretary of the navy andesis got this instinct to talk about the plight of the working white male which is a constitwains that he feels is overlooked and often ignored by politicians in both parties but especially in his party. And it will be interesting to see how that goes. He was a pretty good candidate in 2006. He beat george allen, the incumbent senator from virginia and nobody really expected him to do that. He left after one term. Some people said because he thought maybe he couldnt win rely. Others believed because he was tired of the gridlock up on the hill. He is going to run a campaign thats based upon the idea that maybe the two parties can work together. He has worked for republican president s. He served as a democratic senator. He argued gridlock is keeping america from moving forward. A lot of voters agree with that. We will see. George will this morning in his column writing about Bernie Sanders, independent, who is considering a democratic bid for the white house and making an an analogy to Gene Mccarthy a lengthy piece about his possible candidacy candidacy. He has been in iowa and New Hampshire and staff saying despite his aiming, 73, 74 years old, he serious. Guest i think he is serious. There is a restive, progressive wing in the party that wants a debate that the Elizabeth Warren and others bring forward. Many believe that debate is healthy for the party keeps the democratic nominee whoever it is, in this case i think its probably going to be senator former secretary clinton t keeps them honest moves, moves them to the left a little bit. It holds their feet to the fire with the base, and there are a lot of people who feel like its a productive part of the process. There are others who think that its divisive, creates problems and moves your candidate farther left than they want to be. You can argue it round or square but Bernie Sanders is somebody Hillary Clinton will have to deal with. Joy biden telling abc after the state of the union he would make a decision this summer. Joe biden is somebody that i just think the world of and hes been a loyal soldier. He has been a great Vice President. He has been the guy that the Administration Sends up to the hill when they have to get things done. He is is able to work with Republican Leaders and his old democratic colleagues and bring them together whether its, you know ending the shutdown of the government or putting together a budget deal. He is a legislators legislator. He would a Lyndon Johnson like president if he could get there but there is no question that hes been completely eclipsed in terms of the coverage and the conversation by secretary clinton. So, i think his shot on friday was a dont forget about me but i think a lot of people in this town and particularly inside the add miles per hourstration believe if secretary clinton does run and most people think she will Vice President biden probably will not run. But i think thats a decision that he wants to make, and he doesnt want that decision to be made or imposed upon him by any of the washington ones. Elizabeth warren of massachusetts . She is interesting in the same way that Bernie Sanders is although i think if Elizabeth Warren ran she would be she would eclipse Bernie Sanders in the same way that Hillary Clinton has eclipsed joe biden in many respects. She is something that the left is intrigued by. Progressives love. She continues to say, i am not running for president. Its present tense who gets everybody who likes to parse words interested in asking whether she really means it, whether she might change her mind, whether she might be running for president in the future, whether it might include 2016. I think she has been clear and unequivocal to this point she is not running for president currently. I think she has left the door open enough if Hillary Clinton doesnt run she would easily and quickly be able to become a credible candidate. I think thats by design and not by accident. This is the headline from politico at politico. Com Hillary Clintons fear of leaks. Avowing to avoid a repeat. How do you do that . You have been part of a lot of campaigns. Gecht guest yeah. I understand their concern about leaks. Leaks were clearly a problem last time. It sort of goes with the taken tory, though. If you are trying to avoid the mistakes of the last time the mistakes really werent the leaks. The mistakes were mistakes made on the tam pain trail technical mistakes. After iowa and New Hampshire and when it was clear this was going to be a proceed tacted nominating fight. The Clinton Campaign hadnt filed delegate slates in all of the slates that were holding caucuses and primaries later in the process. They discovered that the Obama Campaign had done that. Thats why relatively early on people who understood the process and how delegates are accumulated and, after all nominations are determined by delegates at conventions and not bottom primaries by primaries won. People knew obama was going to win long before the Clinton Campaign knew obama was going to win. Late host late february early march guest and they were wondering why the Clinton Campaign was ringnizing the inevitable. Those are the kind of mistakes that the Clinton Campaign needs to avoid. The leaking is going to happen, you know, president ial administrations try to stop leaks. They continue to happen. Campaigns try to stop leaks. They happen. I dont think that was the principle problem for the Hillary Campaign last time. Host our guest is Steve Mcmahon, a veteran of a number of democratic campaigns. Now, the founder, cofounder of Purple Strategies which is what . Guest a bipartisan Public Affairs firm that was cofounded by myself and a guy named alex capiansa and we work with challenged brands and in challenging circumstances. We all kind of do democrats and republicans working together which is kind of rare in this town and they all do their campaigns at night and work during the day at this Public Affairs firm, which is a pretty cool place. Host let me ask you about the now former governor of maryland Martin Omalley who had visible appearances last fall, stepped down as the governor of maryland. Its been protocol quiet guest he is the most interesting wild card in this race. He was very active early, traveled, last year, i think to 23 states a twoterm governor of maryland a very successful governor by most peoples assessment. He was, you know, he abolished the death penalty, raised the minimum wage in maryland one of the first to pass civil unions to marriage equality. So gay marriages were occurring in maryland before they were elsewhere. He was against the war. After the torture report came out, he was the only candidate to say or potential candidate to say there should be a special prosecute. Or. He positioned himself if he wanted to be the liberal art alternative to secretary clinton, but hes gone kind of quiet lately. His handpicked successor was unsuccessful in the governors race and i think that was a little surprising to him and to a lot of us who watched maryland politics. I think he said he is going to make a decision, i think by the ends of this month but certainly in the near term. Host let me ask you about money in politics. An editorial in the New York Times. Yes pull it i will pull it up. This is on a growing shadow of political money. 63,000,000,000 was spent in the president ial election and concongressional races of 2012, 6. 3 billion. These candidates have got to raise a lot of money in 2016. Guest thats going to be ultimately the big advantage for a candidate like secretary clinton or somebody like mitt romney or jeb bush who has either done it before or has a Famous Family name like jeb bush has. The big advantage they have is the ability to raise massive amounts of money very very quickly. What you saw last time in 2012 were candidacies that were not very successful at raising money at the Grassroots Level or even at the large donor level. And they were sustained by wealthyy wealthy donors through independent expend temperature committees. Rick santorum never raised any money. He stayed in the race because he had wealthy wealthy backers running a darkmoney campaign to support him. Newt gingrich had the same thing going for him for a while. Mitt romney had to raise his money. He did. He raised a ton, almost a billion dollars. Thats what the president raised is almost a billion dollars. Thats what it takes today. Thats going to be the challenge in the democratic primary for any of these people we talked about besides Hillary Clinton. Jim web is interesting but if he cant raise more than a few hundred thousand dollars or a few million dollars, he wont last very long. The same is true of anybody else that we just talked about. Host this elder in the New York Times, the growing shadow of political money, as much as 8,000,000,000 expected to be spent. Charles koch saying we are just getting started. This is a piece from politico. Com, a big gathering taking place in Southern California this weekend guest everyone is moving from the big tent of steve king to the big tent of the Koch Brothers out in california this weekend. I think thats what you are going to see is these candidates and particularly the fringeier candidates will chase big dollars because its people like the Koch Brothers or the Koch Brothers who can sustain a candidacy for a long time after the candidacy has run out of steam and it can no longer raise money. Rick santorum, and Newt Gingrich, i suspect you are going to see some of the folks who were at steve kings event yesterday getting money from some of the players who want to push this thing far to the right. Thats going to create a problem for the event nominee because ted cruz is not going to get nominated by the Republican Party but he can make sure that whoever does get nominated is not electable in the general election if this goes too far. Host lets go to foenldz. Lisa on democrats line from louisville kentucky. Caller thank you for cspan. Hello, mr. Mcmahon. I think you are a very smart democratic strategist bur i am not really a Hillary Clinton fan. I think she has had her time. And i think its over. I would like to know what you think about governor Steve Bashear of kentucky. He had a successful healthcare rollout, which is very hard for a democrat to get elected two terms in kentucky and be successful. He also brings a lot of newer business from overseas to kentucky. I think he would be a great candidate, and i also like Chris Van Hollen. I would like to hear your comments. Host host thank you. Guest thank you for the nice kind words. My mother will be very excited to hear about that. I think governor bashear would be a Great Potential candidate. When i was just a child, i worked on his unsuccessful gubernatorial campaign. He, of course, was successful later and is now governor of kentucky. The rollout, as of mentioned of knet or kinet was so successful that mitch mccogtried to run for ely to the senate saying we can have knet and not have obamacare even though knet was the implementation of obamacare. So, he has done a pretty spectacular job. Chris van hollen is one of the leading thinkers in the Democratic Party right now who just came out with an economic plan that would actually work harder for the middle class by taking away some of the tax breaks that wealthy individuals get. Either one of those people i think, would be a great candidate. Governor bashear is a little older. I think i dont know if he is interested. But Chris Van Hollen is somebody you should watch because he is a comer in this town. Host you told us on newsmakers he is looking at the possibility of running as governor of maryland. His speech available as with all of our programming including this interview on our website at cspan. Org. Tony from glouster Virginia Republican line. Caller good morning. How are you doing . Thank you for taking my call. Host thank you for phoning in. Caller thank you. I had more of a comment than anything. I am more concerned about where the country is heading at this point. We are the we cant be our allies dont trust us. We are the laughing stock of our enemies. I dont agree with raising taxes, capital gangs or any other. I think there should be a flat tax rate. I am a conservative basically, more of a reagan conservative. I would like to see if we need to get a republican president. Im sorry. But thats just how i feel. Host the president in the state of the Union Address saying you need to raise taxes on wealthier americans to pay for roads and bridges and infrastructure. Caller i dont think thats necessary. I mean they have plenty of taxes from gasoline and all of this what are they doing with the money thats there for infrastructure . Think about that. Hoecht. Host thanks for the call. Following the state of the Union Address, this tweet from former secretary of state Hillary Clinton saying that the state of the union pointed the way to an economy that works for all. Now, we need to step up and deliver for the middle class. Will tax be a center piece of the debate in 2016 . I think tax will be a center piece of the debate in 2016. I think the president laid out a tax proposal thats probably going to have a difficult time up on capitol hill with the republicans in charge. Host Speaker Boehner is saying its dead dead dead. Guest i think he wanted to present a framework for a conversation its going to have this year with the congress and candidates are going to have to have with voters in 2016 and beyond. I believe, you know, that the middle class in this country is feel like they are working harder and making less which is actually true and having a more difficult time paying bills, which is true and they see the wealthy doing well. I think there are a lot of people including a lot of democrats and the president was a great spokesperson for this who believed its time to actually level the Playing Field a little bit more. And make the economy work a little harder for the middle and a little less hard for the very very wealthy. Host more from the president last tuesday evening in his state of the Union Address. [video clip. ] first, middle class economics means helping working class families feel more secure in a world of constant change. Means helping folks afford child care, college, healthcare a home retirement. My budget will address each of these issues lowering the taxes of working families putting thousands of dollars back into their pockets each year. Host Steve Mcmahon, you heard what the president had to say. Was it an eye on 2016 or a serious proposal for tax reform . Guest i think its both. In order to move tax reform a along the path toward priorities you think are important, you start by saying here is what we think we should do. The republicans will come with a different framework and say here is what we should do. There will be things in the middle. Both sides agree Corporate Tax reform is something that probably is good for america in terms of competitiveness and the ability of companies to create jobs. I think the republicans have a different set of priorities. They want to roll back taxes, Capital Gains taxes and do things the president would never do. The president wants to do the opposite. The question then becomes if either side wants tax reform there will have to be give and take. I think in terms of 2016, one of the beautiful things about what the president just did is this is going to force a conversation among president ial candidates and at the senate and concongressional Campaign Level where its going to be clear which candidate is on the side of working people and the folks who have, you know, worked harder and made less over the last 10 or 15 years and which party is on the side of Corporate America and the very wealthy. Thats a debate that democrats welcome and, frankly, its the reason the president won in 2012. Thats campaign that was successful when he talked about an economy that works for the middle class, an economy thats built for the middle class, an economy that doesnt just favor the people who have already made it. Thats the conversation where democrats actually move a lot of working class republicans to their side of the table. So, its smart politically. Host to the birthplace of john f. Kennedy in brook line massachusetts. Good morning. On this date two interesting tidbits in 1961, his first News Conference. In 1960, he entered the president ial race. Go ahead, doug. Caller jim web has been targeted by apac for annihilation including other israeli lobbiests. Would your guest care to comments upon the power of these donors and their ability to affect United States outcomes . Thanks very much. Byebye. Guest that you have beening for the calml thank you for the call. Apec has a constitwains and an agenda. When their agending a is threatened, they speak out. When individuals are threatening it, they speak out against those individuals. They are not really unlike any other institution in this town the chamber of commerce or the pharmaceutical industry or organized labor or the Koch Brothers or folks that are able to fund independent expenditures or publically disclosed expenditures that addvocate for their point of view. There is no question that it will be better n my view if some of these voices were constrained a little bit more, particularly those who are funding the secret dark Money Politics that so many people object to. Apac is a legitimate Advocacy Organization in this town, as are many others and then there is the secret sort of off of the books super funds that do the more nefarious work. I have no problem with what apac does every single day or what they are doing to jim web because they do it, you know in pursuit of an agenda and a cause that they glooechly in that people can you know people can object to or agree with and they can fund if they would like. But this other no different than any other legitimate Advocacy Group in this town. Host different candidates but as you know in the 1998 primary a dividing situation. Jimmie carter. Clinton went to the primary process battered and beaten but came back stronger as a primary candidate and in 2008 where Hillary Clinton and barack obama we want all the way to june as opposed to barack obama wrapping it up in january or early february, saying that that actually helped the Obama Campaign kind of cycle through the process and really get its Campaign Mechanisms in gear. If Hillary Clinton is running with just token opposition how does that bode for her in 2016 . Guest i am one of those people who believes as frustrating when you are inside a campaign and you are the presumptive nominee or the presumptive favorite you are often frustrated by what you recall to be knees gnats out there swiping away at you but i have found over time when you step back and look at it, it makes you a better candidate if you run on your own campaign. The challenge is to not be forced into doing things that make it more difficult to win the you want mat prize. She is not running to be the democratic nominee. She is running to be the president of the United States host like romneyts comment. Guest i was going to go back to that. If i were a republican candidate, the wiser choice would have been to skip the steve king clown show and not pander to a base that produces caucus winners that dont get nominated and dont become president. If you look back at the winners of the iowa caucus, its littered with folks who didnt go very much further from Rick Santorum to pat robertson. The list goes on. It generally doesnt produce a candidate who is going to be the nominee and the president. On the democratic side, the history has been different. It often does produce the nominee of the party and somebody who either becomes president or who or who is very competitive and i think its, you know, a different constituency that those are the caucuses for democrats, but each youve got a situation where each of these things tests your character, your medal, your willingness to run your campaign and not campaign that somebody else is pressuring you to run. It makes you a better candidate if you pass those tests. If the you dont, as mitt romney failed to do in 2012 when he went way too far right on immigration, it makes it very difficult for you to come back and win a generally. Host do you think mitt romney will run . Guest i do. If you look at what he did last time, he lost the election by five points or so. He was running against a very he was running against an incumbent president and it may be the best political machine ever assembled. And he came within five points. So, if you are mitt romney, you know, whats the downside of running a third time . Ronald reagan ran three times and won the third time. So i think you will see mitt romney. Host jack in irvine, kentucky. Good morning. Democrats line with Steve Mcmahon. Caller yes this is jack. I am interested in miliary clinton and her story about being totally broke when the left the white house. I was in white house helicopters in the Marine Corp Marine corps. If she was flat broke, her and bill, we dont need somebody like that running our country. And if she lied about it, we dont need somebody like that running our country. Host jack, thanks for the call. She apologized for that remark but to jacks point. Guest well i mean, i think the context or these kind of remarks is important. What she was talking about was she said that she was inhe will gants and shouldnt have said it this way, was the fact when they came from the white house they came from the governors house where the salary is about 45,000 a year and they were in the white house for eight years and when they came out of the white house, because of all of the investigations and things that the republicans had gotten started, they had millions of dollars of legal bills. If you look at a balance sheet, what she had was accurate but if you look at a political context for the comment like that what she said was something that was ridiculous. She realized that quickly and she took it back but what she said was actually technically, if you are looking at a balance sheet, absolutely correct. This is from one of our viewers saying the democratic primaries will be all about who gets to be Vice President i am [with that. Guest thats with a comments. I am not sure the democratic primaries are about who is going to be Vice President i think hillary, assuming she is the nominee, the candidates who run against her, i would argue, are probably in no better position and may be in a worse position to be selected the Vice President ial nominee because of the nature of campaign. The only way they are going to do well or well enough for people to think they should be on the ticket is by making campaign competitive if you walk that back how do you make it competitive . By drawing contrasts and doing things that the Hillary Campaign probably wont appreciate. I dont want that puts you in a position to be Vice President. Its more likely that nobody who runs against her is considered and people like Steve Bashear orris Chris Van Hollen or somebody outside of washington who can give a different rook to the ticket would be a stronger candidate than somebody who ran against her. Host what is john podestats roll . Guest to be the grown up in the room to make sure Campaign Staff isnt bickering, to try to control to the ex tent possible. But it will ultimately be impossible the leaking that occurs naturally in a campaign. Its going to be, you know to make sure that all of the is are dotted and the ts are crossed. Tell delegate states in montana and idaho and in the states that come late and that dont that most people here in washington dont focus on until the end, all of those delegate slates and other details are taken care of. Things that we want done last time. The fact of the matter is, you know even after senator clinton or then former senator clinton action secretary clinton now, started to make her comeback in the campaign against the president in primaries in 2008, it was by the numbers, it was too late. She could have won a number of those later states and still not been the nominee bays the Obama Campaign at the time had done a better job. John podesta is going to make sure that doesnt happen again. Host peter joining us from florida, good morning. Democrat, republican or independent . Where do you put yourself peter . Caller a little of each. I am a retired veteran in crystal river, florida. I will turn my t. V. Off right now. Host okay. Caller i would like to say. Host host are you with us . Caller they talk about the republicans being for the upper part of people with the bids and the lower ones being for the working man, the party. How can you go to work if you are in the lower group of Business People or the upper Business People to put you to work . A poorman cant put to you work. Thats all ive got to say. Host thank you for the xhoecht. Guest there is no question that businesses and actually, its not big businesses usually. Its Small Businesses in this country create the overwhelming number of jobs. In many cases, they arent wall street titans making 9, 10, 15 million a year as big companies. They are running mall businesses. A lot are familyowned businesses. Thats the backbone of the american economy. Its the back bon of job creation here in america. I think, you know, you can be for the i would guy and the little guy includes the Small Business owner and the employee of the Small Business as well as the large business. You or for the big guy ceo the Hedge Fund Manager making, you know, maybe 100 million a year and paying a Capital Gains tax rate while people who work every day with their back and do labor are paying much more. Thats the conversation at a time president is trying to encourage, not about the big business or the Small Business as much as it is about where the capitol and income flows and whether enough of that capitol income is flowing to the workers who are producing it and then how the people who are paying taxes are being treated and are they being treated he can quitbly and fairly . The conversation that i think he started with the state of the union speech. I think its a conversation that folks out there are going to hear a lot more about in the next couple of years. Host Steven Schweitzer asks what about Brian Schweitzer . Is he considering a bill . Host Brian Schweitzer is like omalley omalley. He was out there quite a bit last year but he is really not been heard from much over the past few months. He has said that he is, you know maybe interested. I think he probably is a little bit more than maybe interested. But again, a lot of these folks are sitting back and they are waiting to see what Hillary Clinton does because the presumption is that she is running and every indication is that she is running and that hiring john podesta would suggest she is running. Until she says she is running, people are saying wait. What about me including the Vice President. Host joseph says, marcy cantor from ohio should run for president. Most knowledgeable and fair person i have seen. Lets go to stephanie joining us from Missouri Democrats line. Good morning. Caller good morning. Thank you for taking my call. I am quite excited to see Hillary Clinton for the next president. My second pick would be joe biden. I think he would be a refreshing, figure for us. Host let me ask you about Hillary Clinton. If she runs like many suspect, what should her message be . What should she campaign on . Caller i think she could bring a lot to the table as far as Foreign Policy is concerned. I think she has a Good Business sense. I think sxlik that she would definitely be good. I think that we saw a lot of her. I dont want to make it as if she was with bill. I mean, you know, they were separate. But i think they were also a package. I think we saw that. I personally Elizabeth Warren i appreciate Elizabeth Warren being honest and wanting to stay where i think she feels she can do the most benefit. And with them trying to dismantle doddfrank, i think thats incredibly important. I love her honesty in want to go stay genuine to what she feels she can do the best benefit for us. I travel the United States for my business and what i do notice a lot is that in the republican states, you find that fuel and gas are higher and, and there is an enormous amount of poverty. So, i am listening to all of the callers. I think the callers actually made more sense tonight or today than what i saw from the Freedom Summit unfortunately. I think on the republican side and the democratic side the callers seem to be quite sensible. But what i would appreciate from all of the callers that are listening, is if they could go to the library of congress right here on cspan action you see the debates, go on the internet. Check out records. Check out the voting history. Check out how your representatives have been doing within the state, you know, and take a ride. Gas is cheaper now. Take a ride outside of your own town, outside of your own state and see whats going on. Too many people dont get out of that i be own bubble. I find this a lot. He specially the northern west. Im sorry. To the people who live up there there is very little communication up there. Host okay. I will stop you there because we are short on time. A few minutes left with our guest. We will give him a chance to respond. Thank you. Guest i think stephanie said Something Interesting and smart among other things that she said that were really interesting and smart. Take a look at whats happening out there that stephanie just mentioned. One of the things i think republicans are going to finds challenging is when people look at whats happening out there, you are seeing gas at about 2 bucks a gallon in washington and the obama care experiment begin to work and so the economy is creating more and more jobs and unemployment is going down. The republicans who are counting on the economy that was faltering and obama care that wasnt working that was unpopular and a general sense that things arent going well in this country may be surprised in 2016 if the economy continues to roll if gas prices remain low and consumers have more money to spend and the Economic Growth numbers pick up if unemployment goes down, if the job creation continues to expand. It may be a much more difficult environment for the republicans in 2016. Therefore, a lot easier for Hillary Clinton if she is the nominee. After all, the republicans wants to run against hillary as the third term of barack obama. She is obviously going to make that challenging jut by running her own independent campaign but if the economic circumstances make it more challenging and then youve got the Electoral College and democrats start usually with about 240 of the 270 they need, its going to be a pretty difficult thing for the republicans to get over and get past f there are more steve king like space minutes and more of the republicans moving the mainstream of the party to the right, its going to be even more difficult. Host on this weekend, Iowa Republicans going to the meeting by steve king. Long time strategist of Purple Strategies. A minute or 2 with your phone calls. Bob from pawpaw, michigan good morning caller i am interested if you have any idea of candidates viable candidates that will not be 70 years old by the time they take office with the Democratic Party. I feel like the vetting process really needs to be very strict in terms of health because this is a really highenergy job any more in washington. And we have had examples and you know them very well over the years, where an older person like that is just the energy just isnt there. Host let me ask yous not only Hillary Clinton as the nominee. She would be 67 but the democratic leadership in the house and senate nancypel pelosi, do you think that poses an image problem for the democrats . Caller do i . Yeah. Host Steve Mcmahon guest i have a slightly different view. Bobs question is a legitimate one. You can make the case that typically when you move on in politics from one generation to the next, it gets younger, not older. And that has been historically the case. I dont think so you have seen a candidate as well qualified as Hillary Clinton or joe biden despite their age in a long time. Hillary clinton, as you mentioned will be 67 when she is nominated, assuming she is is going to probably live by the numbers another 25 years. I think she could serve the country treat quite well and joe biden is in exactly the same position. I am not as concerned about the age of the party, of the nominee or even the candidate or the president. I am more concerned about what it is they want to do and how it is they think they are going to detthat accomplished. Host let me conclude with this point from the from the l. A. Times times piece. The republicans said their convention would be sometime between late june and mid july so that the republicans will be july 18th, the 21st. The democrats, july 25th through the 29th. Back to back conventions again. Guest yeah. What you are seeing are the conventions coming sooner. It used to be, you know conventions would actually creep later in the calendar they would be limited to 70 million. They opt out of that public financing. They can raise and spend as much as they want as long as its within campaign laws. They want to get it settled sooner and raise the bill yon dollars they are going to need to run campaign effectively beginning as quickly as possible. I am not surprised they have moved it up. I am surprised it took this long to get here because its been moving in this director quite some time. Back to back conventions versus a week or two in between, whats the thinking behind that . Guest i dont think Neither Party wants the other to get a head start on the general election. They were nearly back to back. Host into early september. Guest not only back to back but back in july and its just like the starting gun is going off sooner. Votesers are probably going to be more disgusted than ever host Steve Mcmahon, thank you for stopping by. We appreciate it. The headline from the Des Moines Register pitching for conservative voters the iowa Freedom Summit that took place over the weekend we have it all on our website at cspan. Org. We will be back with more of your calls and comments. Lines are open at 2027488000 for democrats. 2027488001 for republicans. And for independents 2027488002 for independent. We will take a short break and be back with more of your calls and comments. You are watching and listening to cspans washington journal january 25th. Back in a moment. Monday night on the communicators, net neutrality, reclassifying broadbast as a utility and other key issues facing the federal Communications Commission in 20s 15. I, nor one, believe the bipartisan consensus that has been in place for almost two decades has served us pretty well. The clinton fcc in 1998 that decided that the internet would be an information service, not a more heavily regulated tell communi indication service. It was chairman of both political parties, chairman kinniard chairman Martin Powell and jimikowski that recognized lighttouch regulation was the best way to deploy broadband. Both parties have recognized lighttouch regulation is the best way to go. But as you know the debate has taken a turn starting with the president ts announcement in december. We now stand poised to consider what is called title two or common carrier regulations. And in my view that kind of heavyhanded regulation develops developed decades ago would be a tremendous mistake for the american consumer. Montgomerys night at 8 eastern on the communicators on cspan 2. Washington journal continues. Host our phone lines are open for the next 20s minutes or so. We want to find out whats on your mind. We can talk about president ial politics. Also, the president , who is in india today for a state visit. The headlines from the times of india, cutting his trip shot to travel to saudi arabia with the ethdeath of King Abdullah and his younger half brother taking over, king salman. You can watch the efforts on our website at cspan. Org. There was this event with jeb bush on friday in San Francisco in which he was asked about his meeting on thursday in Salt Lake City utah, with former governor former president ial candidate mitt romney thinking about running in 2016. Lets watch. [video clip. ] governor, you understand you and mitt had a secret meeting last week. Not sojet. They cant here you. Between the two of us tell us what you guys talked about. So, it was yesterday. I we want to visit governor romney. I have an enormous respect for him. The meeting was set up three months ago under slightly different circumstances, i guess. I was happy to be able to continue to have the meeting. We talked about the patriots we talked a little bit about politics. Not as much as you might imagine. We talked about the future of the country. We talked about a need for a more engaged Foreign Policy where the United States accepts world power status because it brings peace and stability in the world and when we pull back and consider ourselves to be a problem in the world, it creates real problems for us and the American People and the rest of the world. We talked a lot about Foreign Policy. We share a very similar view about that [applause. ] i am more interested in policy. We talked about that. He shared his views. It was a good conversation. I respect him a lot. I consider him a friend. The awkward side of this about running is and stuff, we put aside. So thats a decision he will make and i will have my path for a decision and who knows where that will lead. Host from last friday in San Francisco and the comments of jeb bush as he spoke at the National Auto Dealers Association with a lot of fiber optics on Republican Party politics. This headline from the miami herald, how bushs sweet deal we want sour, a 15,000 dollar month consulting fee he was able to take on after he left the governorship. The story Available Online. Open phones, arlene from maryland, democrats line. Good morning. Caller hello. Thanks for taking my call. Host certainly. Caller i wanted to comment, the earlier guest, the democratic strategist. Is that okay . Host sure. Absolutely. Go ahead. Caller okay. So one thing that concerned me was the democratic primary last time the thought was barack obama was chosen by many voters because of something that they didnt see in Hillary Clinton. One of the things i didnt see was that she wasnt a liberal enough for me. So i wanted to know pretty much how Hillary Clinton would indicate tory a liberal democrat. I understand she has to court republicans, but i wanted to know what would be her liberal message to democrats. Host okay. Thank you for the call. One of our other viewers saying no one is talking about the political advantage for working for the first female president. The republicans are have no viable women to run. Next call is jean from dallas texas. Good morning welcome to the conversation. Democrats line. Caller i am calling because i was really surprised when i heard something about can you hear me . Host we sure can. Go ahead jean. Caller when i heard about the guy that was over the summit had said about hispanic people packing cantaloupes for their thighs. And i was just how can a reputable station have a person like running something even on the station . I mean i thought that was very very unbelievable. I mean my mind was open and my eyes was wide for quite some time. Host okay, jean reference to steve king who put together that event with Citizens United front page of the l. A. Times, homeless camps stretching along downtown dallas. Development pushing some from skid row and another neighborhood, some are staying close to familiar turf. Thats the story this morning, front page positive above the fold andy from mad soninlawville, kentucky, independent line. Good morning. Caller good morning. I am a democrat, and what i am calling for is okay. I lick Hillary Clinton. I think she is a great lady. I will say this for the Democratic Party. I am a conservative prolife. I wish the Democratic Party would kind of go back and be like they used to be and be prolife and stand for what is right. If they would do that then i think we could win again. You know if you look in the first district, weve got a republican congressman is and and the second district, a republican senator and everything that, you know, ms. Grimes she just ran last year and everything. She was a great lady and everything if she would i told some in her camp if she had been probe life, she could have won. The democrats, they need to get back and stand for what is right t be prolife and stand for what is right and we can win again and be more conservative like they used to be. Host thanks for their call from Washington Post. Com, the reporting of robert costa and dan balls, this headline as the republicans facing a delicate balancing act. The speeches that took place yesterday at the Freedom Summit harold from georgetown illinois, democrats line good morning. Caller good morning. I just have a question. I am wondering what you think about this. I am a retired state of illinois employee. I had wonderful insurance, barely cost me anything while i was working. Since i have retired, and obama tricked us with the obamacare thing, i have stacks of bills in there that there is no way i can pay. Host uhhuh. Caller do you think any of that will ever turn around . Host this is really a chance for you to comment. So let me ask you that and turn it right back to you. What do you think . Caller do i think it will . I have no clue. I hope that i would hope that it would, but i just dont know. Host carol, thanks from illinois. Joe from Virginia Republican line. Good morning. Joe, are you with us . One more time . Caller yes can you hear me . Host sure can. Caller i want to comment on the last guest what he didnt tell you was the government got in the way of the recovery. The only reason barack obama won was because a bunch of republicans who didnt like mitt romney because he was another me, too candidate decided to stay home. Thats essentially why. Barack obamas enthusiasm level dropped. Everybody was against him host thank you for the call. For carol, this is a piece by michael goodwin, New York Post on benjamin netanyahu, delivering a speech on march the 3rd. This piece is called white house Going Nuclear on netanyahu because the president will not be meeting with him when he travels to washington, d. C. The white house saying because there is an election on march the 17th they didnt want to meet with him too close to the israeli election. The full story Available Online at nypost. Com. Next caw is delores joining us from massachusetts, independents line. Good morning. Caller good morning. How are you today . Caller i am fine. I vitaed for obama initially when he came up on the first election, but after he got in he started to show his colors by leaning socialist and turning our country into a socialist country one by one, and then, leaning toward the un and trying to get our country to become part of the one world order, which this is this would break americans hearts because we americans, are patriots that have come to defend every country in the world. Host delores inc. s thanks from Bloomberg Politics ted cruz and the candidates k they prove they are conservative . Pointing out his president ial campaign in iowa officially underway at the ends of the speech. He asked people to write the word constitstitstitution and 33733, which brought them to the link, tedcruz. Org. Another moment, governor Chris Christie for from new jersey. [video clip. ] trying to pick up a few extra votes in places like ohio and florida. If our conservatism is going to succeed, it must be able to defend itself in every part of this country. Therefore americans. I know this. In every state who share our goals who want to work with us and we should be appealing to all of them. You see if we are going to really truly restore and renew this country and its promise, we need a coalition that covers all parts of the country, all ethnicities, a coalition that is comprised at its core of our proud yet under served and under represented working class in this country. Host governor Chris Christie, his 11th visit to iowa all in advance in his expected bid for the white house. Open phones, linda from clinton north carolina. Sxwecht line. Good morning. Call linda, you are on the air. Please go ahead. Caller good morning. How are you . Host fine. Thank you. Caller i am really concerned about why they are talking about the democrats reducing taxes for the middle class. When i was selfemployed, bill clinton became president. I owned a real estate Title Research company. We covered six counties in the state. My taxes increased 5,000 more a year with him. And we didnt even hardly make any money, but we had to work 10 times harder just to pay the taxes that bill clinton wanted us to pay. So how are they saying they are going to reduce taxes for the middle class . Host democrats or republicans . Because the president wants to raise caller saying they are going to reduce. Didnt you hear what obama said . He said he was going to reduce the taxes for the middle class. Host right and raise them for wealthy americans. Okay, lynn your final point is what linda . Caller is that i do not believe that democrats are going to reduce taxes for the middle class. Host thanks very much for the call. Front page of the Richmond Times dispatch, cuba rediscovered as highlevel state department on to begin the process of restoring diplomatic relations to that islands nation about 90 miles off of the coast of south florida. The secretary of state indicating he will travel to cuba sometime later this spring. Susan from kingston Illinois Republican line. Good morning. Caller hi. Number if you are playing a game of monopoly, its no fun if everybody is rich. You have to redistribute it a little bit, i think. What the Freedom Summit was telling me is i have the freedom to take freedoms away from people. I want the freedom to have dirty water. I want the freedom to have right to work states. You know the g. O. P. Cant convince people that we want the freedom to have slave wages. We want the freedom, you know. Its just a bunch of crap. I am sick of low information voters, you know, getting the wrong information. Its just really wrong. I dont see where any of the candidates made sense in the freedom coalition, you know, religion should definitely state out of this. Host we will move on. A few more minutes of phone calls. We will try to get to as many as we can. From the New York Times, prepping for 2016, a looking at the gathering in iowa yesterday. Della next from new york city. Good morning. Caller good morning t its time to turn the page. We heard donald trump say yesterday, we dont need another bush in the white house. I was surprised to hear him say that. We dont need nor clinton in the white house either. Remember this they occupied the white house as a team. It was buy one, get two. So whatever clinton did, hillary was responsible for too. Now, lets say this lets remember this when they came into the white house in 1992, we had a predominantly democratic congress. They could have passed a healthcare bill at that time. They didnt. What did they do . They passed nafta. They we want after rubenomics. They we want after the people that were in wall street not main street. They passed the nafta bill which took jobs away from people. The jobs we want to mexico and then what did they do . They passed welfare reform. They fell into the hands of Newt Gingrich who controlled bill crinton during the eight years. What else did they do . In the last year of his presidency he apriled the glassstevel act which allowed corporationsigwill he act which allowed corporations. That was detrimental to the Democratic Party because it brought us a disaster of 2011. Host thank you for the call. From Time Magazine the cost of cheap gas, the biggest news in the Global Economy right now. Oil is cheaper than at a time since 2009 and the impact is as obvious as the signage on the Corner Service station where gas is down to an avenue of 2. 05 a gallon, the equivalent of a 750 tax cut for every American House homed. Geoff, you get the last word from glen burney maryland independents line, good morning. Caller good morning. How are you doing . Have you heard of this what is it . Ttp, this new trade agreement they are doing . Host right. Being debated in the house and the senate. The president wants it. Some Congressional Democrats dont like it. Caller yeah. Anyway, i am pretty sure the president is going to have it fast track the or something. What thats going to do is basically going to kill our sovereignty, kill our constitution. Its going to move even more jobs overseas and its just going to kill america. We are basically hanging by a thread as it is right now. Host thanks for the call. Will be later this spring. The house and senate both back in session. The house will could not its debate on funding for the department of Homeland Security and the battle over the immigration executive action by the president. The Senate Taking up more amendments on the keystone xl pipeline. By the way Congressional Democrats have their retreat thursday and friday in philadelphia. We will continue the conversation tomorrow morning as we do every day at 7 00 a. M. Eastern time here on cspan. The washington journal t talking about a potential success or to out going defense secretary chuck hagle and the chief executive officer for the center for new American Security and later nina olson for the National Taxpayer advocate tro
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