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Morning at 7 a. M. Eastern, 4 00 a. M. Pacific. Have a great monday. [captioning performed by the national captioning institute, which is responsible for its caption content and accuracy. Visit ncicap. Org] [captions Copyright National cable satellite corp. 2016] break house has been on so members can return to their districts. Agenda includes a three extension for faa funding. Week the house is expected to consider a resolution by speaker paul ryan, opposing the action on immigration. The senate is back today at three eastern. He has been serving as acting secretary for over a year and a confirmation vote is set for 5 30 eastern today. Also coming up, can burns will gates toenry louis talk about race in america. This coming april he will premiere his documentary, jackie robinson. Live at 1 p. M. Eastern today here on cspan. Also republican president ial candidate Governor John Kasich is in his home state of ohio. Mitt romney has not yet endorsed any candidate, but has criticized front runner donald trump. You can see todays event at 6 p. M. Eastern on cspan three. Campaign 2016 continues on tuesday with primaries taking place in missouri, illinois, and swing states. Of the election result, candidate speeches, and of reaction begins at 7 p. M. Eastern. Republican president ial candidate donald trump held a Campaign Rally at an airport hangar outside dayton ohio, just days before the state president ial run president ial primary. Wasgop frontrunner surrounded by secret service agents. Trade policy more rallies will be held tomorrow, including carolina, illinois. Number one in his position by everybody. I want to thank you very much. What a good guy, ohio. I love ohio. Cincinnati. Ohio in i had a great experience early on. It was a job, i thought it with my father. I ran the job myself. , its like this sinking a first putt for a home run first time at that. I always have a great feeling for ohio. The people are amazing people. [crowd cheers] mr. Trump i dont know if the media is getting this. We have a full hanger. This is a big hangar. We figured the crowd would be ok. We have so many thousands of people extra we had to put them in the runway. They never want to capture that. It is fantastic. Lets address it. I love you too. Amazing. This is amazing. Lets address yesterday. So, look. We had a tremendous rally in chicago planned. 25,000 people. The arena was seeding 11,000. We registered more than 25,000. [crowd cheers] thats ok. You are loyal but thats ok. It was very interesting. These were great people like him and yourselves. People that want to make America Great again. That is all it is. They were pouring into the arena. All of a sudden a planned attack came out of nowhere by people that were professional people. They are all printed. They have a marco who made them. All done via a group. All professionally done. A disgrace if you want to know the truth. We were able to let a lot of them know dont go. We would have had a problem like you would not have the. They would have wiped them out and that would not have been good. We made a decision. I hated to do this. It would have been easier to go. I didnt want to see anybody hurt. We have people that are so amazing, it is not necessarily loyal to me, it is loyal to the country. [cheers] the usa is right. They are loyal to the country. They want great security. They want great military. They want a border. They want a wall. Him [cheers] [crowd chanting] build that wall, build that wall, build that wall mr. Trump we are going to build the wall folks. Dont worry. Who is going to pay for the wall . [crowd] mexico mr. Trump do we have a good time . I watched i shouldnt say it. I watched little marco and lyi ted cruz. He holds up that bible then he puts it down and lies. Even rubio says he is a liar. I have the evangelical vote. Ive had great support from Jerry Falwell junior, sarah palin. We have such unbelievable support. I have the evangelical vote. I won in south carolina. He was supposed to win in south carolina. We got the evangelicals. They dont like liars. [applause] so, anyway. Just as im watching this, they said at our rallies we would never have anything like that. They dont have any people at their rallies folks. [laughter] [applause] they had this hangar, they would have people in that corner office. And dont call it a town hall meeting. They say town Hall Meetings. Why dont you have more town Hall Meetings. Because i have too many people. Anyway. [applause] i would like to have a couple of town Hall Meetings but we would have to turn away how many people . 44,000 . Hi so, what happened yesterday was incredible. We dealt with law enforcement. We love our police. Secret service, great, the whole group. It was determined if we go in it could cause bad vibes. They want me to tell my people please be nice. My people are nice. The people who came their personaes. The people that were there, that were invited there, thousands and thousands, they caused no problems. They were taunted and harassed by these people, some represented bernie, our communist fan. [crowd] boo. Mr. Trump the reason there were no hillary people, they have no fervor. Bernie should get up and say to his people stop. Not me. They said mr. Trump, he should get up this morning and tell his people to be nice. My people are nice. They are great. My people are great. My people are great. So here is the story. We get up and make the decision. People in the audience were devastated. Some of them got eight hours early. They are standing there for eight hours like you. Raise your hand. We love you. Dont worry. I will sign autographs. Dont let them rip you away from that. Anyways. What happens is everybody was fine and behaving. What they have done on the other side, moveon. Org, one of these groups. These are bad people. These are people that dont want to see our country be great again. I am telling you that. We can get along with people. We are going to unify the country. Our president has divided this country so badly. He has been the great divider. When he got elected i said i dont think he is going to be a good president. Who knows. I wished he were. I wish i didnt have to do this. But we have to. We have no choice. When you look at the iran deal, the horrible trade deals, our jobs are being sucked away. It is unbelievable what is happening. Our military cant beat isis. It is being depleted. Our veterans are being treated horribly. Our border is a piece of swiss cheese, people come pouring across. Let me tell you. At the top of that we have a divided country. We have black and white, and every other thing. Everybody hates everybody. Even in congress. You look at washington politicians, they hate each other. Hi the democrats hate the republicans. Liberals hate the conservatives. We have got to change our thinking. If there is a group out there just throw them the hell out. [crowd cheers] [crowd chanting] mr. Trump we cannot let our First Amendments we cannot let our First Amendment rights be taken away from us. We cant let it happen. We have a right to speak. We are law abiding people. We are people who work very hard. We have built this country and made this country great. And we are all together. We want to get along with everybody. When they have organized wiseguys, we have to fight back. [applause] mr. Trump do you have anybody . Hello. I love the protesters. They will not show. The media is the most dishonest group of people i have ever met. They will say today donald trump had a small crowd, a smattering of people. They dont say it was so big it was bursting out of the biggest hangar i have ever seen. They will say a small crowd or a representative crowd was there. We have these everywhere. We have a amazing people in this country. Im so impressed with the people of our country. We are going to start making apple products in the United States. Not in china. When the carrier air conditioner says they are leaving the United States, 1400 people because they are going to build in mexico, and nabisco is leaving chicago because they are one to build in mexico, not going to happen with me. We are going to keep our businesses here. [crowd cheers] mr. Trump let me talk about your governor. Do you mind . I want to tell you. Its a boring subject but we will talk about him anyway. He was the managing director of lehman brothers, one of the great catastrophes in the history of this world. Almost brought down the world. John kasich was a managing director. He was there with the people making these horrible decisions. He voted for nafta and you forgot. [crowd booing] mr. Trump nafta has destroyed new england. You have fought for years and years. You will never recover completely from it. We are bringing those businesses back. So, putting the vote in my opinion, anyone who puts their hand up for nafta, it wiped out states. It wiped out new england. It has taken years and years. You look at those factories. They are made into Senior Citizen housing. But we need jobs. Our jobs are going to china, japan, mexico. Our jobs are going to vietnam. We are losing our jobs, our manufacturing. We are losing no matter it is health care trade. Think of it. Do we have great military . [applause] problem, our military cannot eat isis. We can knock them out in two days if we wanted to. Politically correct warriors. Do you believe this . Have i been saying hit the oil . Ive been saying it for years. Go into iraq,nt you are going to destabilize the middle east. I said dont go into iraq. Iraq didnt have weapons of mass destruction. We have destabilize the middle east. Then you have obama and he made it worse. Instead of slowly getting out when, you shouldnt have gone now with everybody. Date, we arences a going to be leaving by such and such eight. The other side is saying, i cant believe he gave us a date. It must be some kind of a wiseguy move. They all just pulled back. Do you remember about three months ago, we said we are sending 50 soldiers. Why cant we be unpredictable in war . Its like these dishonest people back there, asking what do you want to do about isis . Crapted to knock the out of the oil but i didnt want to say it. I want to surprise the enemy. Unpredictability. General douglas macarthur, i had Great Respect for him. You know what they are doing right now . They are spinning in their graves as we announce every single move. We announced we are sending 50 soldiers. These are very elite talented people. They now have a target on their back because the announcement. Why dont you send them in and let them mouth shut . Do their jobs. Let me go over a couple of things, john kasich is not the right guy to be president , he is not tough enough, he is not smart enough. He is very weak on illegal immigration, he is totally in favor of amnesty, which you hes veryfavor of it weak on illegal immigration. And he wants amnesty. And he talks about it. As far as cars. The industries that have not wen taken out of ohio, is have to protect your coal industry. And we have to protect your steel industry. Your governor is in favor of the transpacific partnership, which is a disaster. Im telling you it is a disaster. Did i do well in that debate or what . [applause] they all came to me, even my daughter and said, dad, you are the smartest one up there but you have to act president ial. Do you mind if i take off my coat, the weather is so beautiful. Trump, trump, trump. Donald so she said, dad, you have to act president ial. Dont fall for it. When they attack you, dont fall for it. You have little marko saying all sorts of things, which werent true. But they are not as big as nick, i can tell you that. When he was choking, i was getting ready to take that hand and hold them up, because i thought he was going down. Ben carson the other day endorsed me. I got a call from a couple of very great people and strong evangelicals. Teetering onwere you a little bit, maybe we werent going to get there. As soon as ben carson endorsed you, we are with you 100 . All the Steel Industries are the epa, the Environmental Protection group, they are a disaster. What they are doing in ohio, they are a complete disaster. Transpacific is going to destroy your Auto Industry. They are going to do everything. Not going to happen if i become resident. It is a horrible trade agreement. Countries, all of whom want to rip our heart out. China wants to be a part of it at a later date. The document is 7000 pages long. It is too complicated and too big. Senatorsessmen and our , our people have never looked at it or read it. Weapon isst important monetary manipulation, devaluation of their currencies. The greatest of all time is china. Mexico is getting really good at it. Japan is a total professional. Whaty are doing to they are doing with us with the cars is incredible. It has to stop. Biggest ships you have ever seen. Heard, you probably nascar endorsed trump. Drivers wee had such great people up there. Its a great group. They understand, they get it. We have to keep our industry. He has to take that supportive. Ay support away. Ohio is a target. You will lose your Auto Industry entirely and that has to stop. You honestly didnt hit oil, ohio would be a disaster. You got lucky. Arabia. Ct saudi they were making 1 billion per day. Now that the oil is down, you have big problems coming. The largest entries in the 36 , the budget of ohio. The price was so low, so you have a lot of problems. He made a lot of money with oil, you are lucky is held. Other places are cutting but they dont have the oil factor. Saudi arabia, if you look at all these countries, nobody richer than saudi arabia. Every time there is a threat to saudi arabia we turn on the ships are you of course Million Dollars is to turn on a button. Lets check them, 1 million down the drain. We spend billions and billions of dollars protecting wealthy countries. Owed 19 trillion. Our country is weak, our country is soft, we have leadership that is pathetic. And it has to change. It has to change. You probably see this whole thing i dont like torture, nobody wants torture. But we are dealing with people who are animals. Thate dealing with people ,rop off that chop off heads that drop heavy steel cages into the water, ocean, whatever they can find. They hold them for one hour and then they pull them up all dead. We are dealing with animals. They went the ted cruz i have been on every debate since the beginning. And i never did this before, i never debated before. I do give credit. One of the wise guys back there said, you know the amazing thing about john, he is a politician he is about donald, he is not a politician. He has been doing this for eight months and he is killing everybody. I still believe in confidence over experience. Yet i have great experience. I have been on the other side of the equation for a long time. Nobody knows politicians better than i do. Nobody knows about all of the i hate to say this, i was very establishment nine months ago. I dealt from that side and then i saw how stupid everybody was and i say im going to become very antiestablishment and im going to win. And the establishment said, can you believe this, trump is running, hes self funding his campaign. Weve got to fight him. I know what has to be done. But just to finish on torture i love hopping around. Some people said its like a great chess game. I want toget just tell you, they asked ted cruz a question on waterboarding. Here are people that are like medieval times. James foley, that was the beginning. , wonderful young man christians, anybody gets in their way, boom, chop off their heads. You have to stop that. E cannot allow that in our world, we cannot allow that. But now we have to stop it. In and knocko go the hell out of them. But they ask ted cruz right here on my left and hes a nice guy, except he lies so much. They said senator cruz, waterboarding, what do you think . Let me go back and talk to my consultants. Of beingall afraid politically correct. Hes a great debater, but hes a lousy talker. He cant talk. He is a great debater i dont know if he is a great debater. I beat him in all of the debates. , he gave a back nonanswer. He did not like the question. They came to me and i said in front of the audience i have much more money than all of them put together i dont have a pulse or. What do i need a pollster for . If the pollsters were any good, they would be doing what we are doing. They spent hundreds of thousands on pollsters and came to me and said what do you think about waterboarding . In the middle east and other places, they are chopping off heads and drowning people. Theyare killing people, would kill us so quickly if they had the capability. Which is why we have to kill them. [applause] not massivee weaponry available today, i would say get the hell out and lets build our country real fast. 5 trillion ly go back 15 years. We were better off 15 years ago. If Saddam Hussein was in charge they say he admires Saddam Hussein. Putin called me a genius. He said donald trump is a genius. Thank you. She said you are. Putin said good things about me. Hes a leader. Debate. It in the i said i dont admire him. Might the good, but he is a strong leader. Square, thatnanmen was right. A riotthey put down viciously, hardly. If i didnt have the big speaker tem in terms of my mouth, this Twitter Facebook is so great because when they lie on television, i and out i do it myself they go 12 seconds later, we have breaking news from donald trump. Type outching cnn and something that john kasich without oil would have nothing and all of a sudden, we have breaking news. In the old days, it would take the word out. T but we have to get strong, but we have to get smart. I started by saying they are chopping of heads. It is a lousy subject. Fine with 100 waterboarding and it should be increased. It should be increased. Just so you understand it is true, we have laws. We are too rough with our enemy. Threeust chopped off heads of christians who went over there to help people. They grab them, they chop off their heads because they are great people who are helping people and im saying to myself i have to defend this. So we have laws and we have rules of regulations and they have nothing. Somebody wheneat you have rules and regulations at a very high level. We capture one of these animals and we dont even know where we can try them. Going to Guantanamo Bay, just so you understand. We dont want them here. Theyre going to Guantanamo Bay but do you see the money we spend . We are spending hundreds of millions of dollars a year and we have like 90 prisoners left. We can do better than that. Ofspent hundreds of millions dollars we can do much better. Waterboarding is fine and if we can go much worse than waterboarding, that is ok with me to. They said he may not obey the laws as of now, we are not allowed to waterboard. Waterboarding torture is terrible. When somebody is doing what they are doing, the cutting and the drowning, we have to fight like we have to fight. Laws, weo expand our want to knock them so fast and so furious. The isis guys eat dinner like we do. They eat dinner, different locations, different can you imagine them and each one of them chopped off three heads today and drowned 70 people. And they are talking about the u. S. Not wanting to allowed waterboarding, which a lot of people dont consider torture. Think of it. Can you imagine what these people say . How ineffective and stupid we are . There is a story that i tell, when we were strong. In 1919, should i tell the story . Some of you have heard it. Should i tell it . [cheering] it is a rough story. The media says, oh its a terrible story. I am just telling the truth. Its in the philippines. He is sitting on a horse. They were having problems with radical islamic terrorism. Whoa, im so shocked. This is 1919. We have to get to the bottom of it. We cannot allow people into the country that want to destroy us. We cannot do it. We cannot allow the migration of syrians into the country. We dont know who they are or where they come from. The general and the proteins general in the philippines, they were having a problem. The only difference now is the weaponry. In those days, you did not have that. But you still have a tremendous problem. They catch 50 terrorists. A little different than we handle them today. Today we read them their rights, blah blah blah, feed them the best food, given areas to pray. We are wonderful, stupid people okay . General pershing, a tough guy that hold the whole deal going. They catch 50 terrorists. They were doing tremendous destruction. He lined them up to be shot. Knows they are guilty, they have admitted their guilt. Lines 50 up to be shot. Swine, pig all about, a big problem for them. He took 2 pigs, chop them open, took the bullets and drop them into the pigs, swish them around so that there was blood on the bullets. Had his men to put the bullets into the rifle. They put the bullets into the rifle and they shot 49 men. We dont like this, but im just saying, we have to win. Or lets just be blown up by everybody. They put bullets in the rifles and shot 49 of the 50 men dead. It was a piginfested bullet in each one. They dunked the bodies into a mass grave and took the final bullet and gave it to the one person they decided not to shoot. They said here, take this bullet, go back to your people and explain what we just did. [cheering] that is not the end. Want to hear the end . He went back and said what just happened for 28 years, there was no terrorism. [cheering] im not saying that is a good thing, a bad thing. This is history. This is what is going on. Wheeler are going to win or lose. We cannot continue to go the way we are going now. We are either going to win or lose the battle. We have to clean it out. These are people that have horrible thoughts, visions that you wouldnt believe. Interestingly, when i won in south carolina, just before the vote the pope said bad about me. Because mexicans said something about donald trump. What he said is what the mexicans told him. We have to stop illegal immigration. They said, its terrible what this american trump wants to do. The next day he issued such a nice statement. You cant get the pope to apologize. I felt i could win in south carolina, even though it was supposed to be cruz territory. I won in a landslide. [cheering] by the way, i won with women, men, highly educated, less than highly educated, i won with soldiers, vets, evangelicals. I won with everybody. I dont want to put the police at any discomfort level. They would have been very uncomfortable. The secret service guys are fantastic people. I do want to put them through a strong test. We were given credit for doing the right thing. By doing what i did, that story is all over the world. We made the Rate Decision under a great deal of pressure. Who else would make that . Go, do it, let people play in her themselves. I did not want to see that happen. The people that protested, one of them said they think they gave trump an awfully good platform. They had a lot of people there that are not really good. [yelling] [chanting] alright, we have to have one protester right . Hes a whack job. [cheering] so we have one protester. And what, the story tomorrow . Massive protest at trump rally. They wont talk about the crowd because again, they are the worst. We are going to strengthen our country. We are hopefully going to win ohio. [cheering] kasich is a baby. He cant be president. Too many problems. Letting people come into our country. Just the fact that he approved nafta. The fact that he was with lehman brothers. He cant be president. It would not be a good situation. I will do such a great job, you have no idea. [cheering] a lot of people are going to be surprised. I will bring unity back. I will bring jobs back from china, from japan. I will bring our jobs back from mexico. I will bring jobs back to this country. You wont even believe it. We are going to start winning again. Just a couple of things. Second amendment, we are going to fight and not give it up. [cheering] trade deals we are going to make some of the greatest trade deals ever made. They all say he cant be a true conservative. On the most conservative person in the world on military and they say hesut not a free trader. I remember jeb bush that shes not a conservative. And he is very low energy. He was not a nice person. He was not a nice guy to me. We are going to be so strong on trade. These socalled conservatives, they dont know whats happening. Are you ok . Its easy over there, they can just put him out on the runway. A free trader but it has to be smart trade. Have a trade deficit of over 500 alien dollars. It has been going on for years. 500 billion. Then they say hes going to start a trade war, except for one problem we would be better off with a trade war instead of losing 500 billion. Orthe wall street journal the times, they say trump has totally changed his thinking on trade. Everyone talked about free trade and so do i. But it has to be fair trade. It has to be smart trade. I have friends that are manufacturers and they cannot get their products into china. I have friends that are absolute great manufacturers. They cannot get their products into china. Charged ado, they get massive tax. But we dont do that because we dont know whats going on. We are going to use our top chess players because that is what they are. Is a reason there are great negotiators. They want to help us. If i put carl or some of the other great names i know so many people. We have the greatest negotiators in the world. To makelinical hacks deals with china, to make deals with japan. We have Caroline Kennedy representing us in japan. How did you get the job . I dont know. And shes a lovely person. Ivanka likesecause her. I just dont like her because i dont want her trading on automobiles. Somebody you dont want to have dinner with. Some of these guys are so bad it you met him, you would get sick to your stomach you would say hes a horrible, horrible human being. He is rude, crude and vicious. I want him negotiating for us. Best. Have the some of them are very nice. These are our greatest negotiators. But we are losing our companies. Pfizer is leaving. Take a look at carrier and i get killed for this. Two Just Announced and a half billion dollar plan ive been talking about this for a long time. Administration talks you cannot leave this. Take carrier, that is so easy to. I dont want to use carl or any of the killers. This stuff so well. Here is the story. Of theut in some greatest Financial Statements ever seen by man into the general elections commission. I reported all my financials and the reporters are saying amit they are really good. They were hoping. And my friends are saying now i know you are rich because you wouldnt have walked you would not have run if you were not really rich. Row and all of these buildings, the bank of america building in San Francisco and many tremendous assets. The reason i say that is very simple its the kind of thinking we need in our country at least or a while. [applause] so we are going to get the best people. They arennounces wonderful things because they really get you. Closingsing we are carrier they did a great job, greatlooking people and they are devastated. We are moving to mexico it wasnt even a warm speech. Isnt president ial. Rate student. S really, i went to the best schools. My uncle was a top professor at m. I. T. , a super genius with science. I understand it might not be residential who cares . She said act president ial in the last debate. You saw what happened with little marco. Everybody that has come after me has gone down the tubes. Is that right . Wouldnt that be great for our nation . I dont want to mention all the names because some of them have already called me wanting to endorse me. Thats ok. Its so late. Get him out. Get him out of here. Why is he angry . Im just saying we are going to make good trade deals. What took him so long to put up his hand . Ed go backost finish home to mommy. Go back home. Guy looks like hes 15 years old. What is going on. Take him back home to mom. She will lock him in his bedroom. So here is what happened. I will call up carrier because i have to do it myself. ] anting usa, usa, usa thank you for the warning. I was ready for him but its much easier if the cops do it. What a great job. What a great job. To think i have such an easy life. I love this country, we are going to make this country great again. It is payback time. [applause] so let me finish. Carrier and call up tell the head of carrier that i hope you enjoy your stay in mexico but every single unit you border, send across our you are going to pay a 35 tax. The 35 tax. They are going to call me in 20 four hours because i am not taken care of by the special interests. They are going to call me back and they are going to go mr. President , we are moving back into the United States. That is what is going to happen. 100 sure. You we dontell win anymore but we are going to start winning. Were going to win with our military, we are going to take care of our vets. And it is the least expensive thing we can do. Im the most militaristic person here but i was against that ridiculous war. Our military is going to be bigger and better and stronger than before and no one is going to mess with us. We are bringing our education and get rid of common core. We are going to repeal and replace obamacare. Have such strong borders and people are coming to our country but they are going to come in legally. So important is this john kasich cannot do the job. People dont even know how to pronounce his name. He cannot do the job. Hes not your president. The polls. Go to is there anything more fun than a trump rally . [applause] i hope you go to the polls. I said how about putting up your hands and saying i swear i will go. Are you ready . I love you all, by the way. I swear on tuesday i will go to the polls and vote for donald trump. Thank you. Thank you, everybody. Ohio, heres the story. We are going to win. We are going to win so much you are going to get tired of winning. You are going to be so proud of your president and so proud of your country. On tuesday, go vote, i love you all, thank you ohio. Thank you, dayton. I love you. Thank you. Pastnald trump from this weekend. Our road to the white house coverage continues with Governor John Kasich in his home state of ohio. He will be joined by 2012 president ial nominee, mitt romney. You can see him on cspan3 at 6 00 eastern. Announcer this week on q a, politico editor Susan Glasser and New York Times chief White House Correspondent peter baker, who are married, talk about their careers and their plans to move to israel. Brian what made you get into this business . Susan glasser what an exciting way to earn a living while learning something new every single day. I always wanted to be a journalist. Brian where did you start . What was your first journalistic experience . Susan i remember being 10 years old and handing out copies of the newspaper that my parents founded, the legal times, at the Aba Convention in washington. And probably ever since then. Brian how long did they own legal times . Susan they started in 1977 and their Company Owned it until 1986. Brian who is the first person who tie you would journalism is all about . Susan you know, it was funny. There was a famous teacher at the high school i went to. Tom lyons was the supervisor of the newspaper at andover. He was also george w. Bushs favorite teacher in high school. Many years later he was still around, a very, very older statesmen at the school, and not only was he a great leader in journalism but also in the role of a free press. He taught constitutional law as well. My junior year in high school. It was incredible experience. Brian your husband is with us today. Peter baker. Before i go to peter baker, what were the circumstances where you met him . Susan people used to say i got my job through the Washington Post. I was lucky enough to get a job at the Washington Post and to find and meet my husband. We also like to say that Monica Lewinsky was the thing that brought us together. So there was some good at least they came out of that side of. I was an editor at the Washington Post and i would oversee investigative reporting for the national staff. I started in january 1998 one week before the monica story broke. Peter was a White House Reporter covering president clinton. That is how we met. Brian we have some video from 1998. Actually, right after you started. February 6. This is your husband, peter baker, when he worked at the post. The president gets home from his deposition on january 17, having just spent six hours with lawyers from pollen jones and going through all this reported sexual encounters with lawyers repeating questions. The one that stuck in his mind was Monica Lawrence go. Monica lewinsky. He gets home at night and because of betty currie and asks her to come into the office the next day. So they can talk about it. That sunday in the privacy of the white house and they went through his testimony and he tried to see if his memory matched her memory. Prosecutors are very interested in that because her version was somewhat different in that he says i was never out of earshot. He and lewinsky were never essentially alone, he claims. Betty kerry said yes but later told investigators that in fact she had been the outer office on a number of occasions. Brian what are you thinking . Peter my taste in ties hasnt gotten any better. That was a long time ago. The issues were so extraordinary. Never repeated since, thank goodness. Were young journalists trying to figure out what the story was. Was it about politics . Was it about accountability . It was a really extraordinary time. It was a stew of all these things. Brian what do you think is the residual of that time. On our politics right now . Peter it was part of a continuing than washington that became increasingly corrosive over time. We had a hard time figuring out what are the right boundaries. The ways even hold the president accountable. When does become partisan . You can trace back to all sorts of events in the previous 10 or 20 years. And then extended through today. You see an evolution of how politics has grown harsher and harsher in washington. Brian you were able to find your spouse at the Washington Post. Peter she was my boss at the time. We were spending a lot of hours together. Late at night. For about 13 months the story was allconsuming. One day we discovered completely by accident friend al kamen that we lived on the same block on the same street. We didnt even know it. We never saw each other they are because we spent our time at the office. That told us there was Something Real here. Monica lewinsky brought us together. I grew up here in washington outside fairfax virginia. I went to Public Schools all the way through. My High School Journalism teacher was a man named stewart held was very influential in encouraging me. Susan technically president clinton might say that was not the controlling legal authority. There are many bosses in a big newsroom. I have been really lucky. To be able to have professional and personal partnerships over more than 15 years is a very unusual thing. He was terrible on deadlines. And he is terrible now. What is the last possible moment you can turn in a story . There are a lot of procrastinators who gravitate toward journalism because only the force of a gun to the head will get things done. Of like those Old Newspaper deadlines, what is happened in those 15 years is the absolute proliferation and explosion, we are all wire service 24hour deadline people. He was one of the very first people to write a web story for the Washington Post. We wanted to have a midday update on impeachment. Just 15 years you go from the print paper and waking up in the morning to a fresh set of news and headlines. Now this rolling world in which the New York Times and the Washington Post and politico are all filing all the time and we expect sophisticated not just commodity news versions but a complicated breaking stories almost instantaneously of them occurring. In our living memory of covering the scandal he was the very first guy to even write a web story for the Washington Post. Brian you are going to jerusalem together. Peter tuesday his departure. R 11yearold son will go with me later. Susan is going to finish out the election with politico. She will join us a couple of months after that. Brian what is your thinking about being the bureau chief of the New York Times in jerusalem . Peter susan and i were Bureau Chiefs together in moscow. We have never spent any time in israel. We are looking forward to learning a lot. It could be a real adventure. Part of the world that has so much history and so much of a vital part of todays issues and we spent a lot of time writing about in washington but weve never lived there. Brian you are stepping down as the editor of politico. Susan i will be changing roles and continuing at politico in a roll around helping to lead our editorial growth and innovation. Continuing to expand internationally. We Just Launched politico europe. We are looking at creating and launching new things. I started the political magazine. It has been a really exciting new platform for us. Ambitious longform reporting. The war of ideas. You cant own the washington conversation unless you are part of the debate over ideas and policies. How it connects. That approach is something that can work in europe and other big markets of the world. Both of us have spent our careers focusing on that intersection between washington and the world. One of the things that we learned from our tour in russia which coincided with president putins first term in office. It was after 9 11 so we ended up in afghanistan and iraq. We came back here to the washington of george w. Bushs second term in office. That sense of washington isnt just the capital of the United States, it is the capital of the world, that nexus through which things flow. We are very insular here. Kind of a small village at times. You have to renew your intellectual capital. To really understand the stories and issues. I will be writing a weekly column on foreign affairs. It will appear in politico and politico europe. I am excited about doing that. Also be working on longer form magazine pieces. Probably for the New York Times. Brian many folks hit what you do. Hate what you do. I dont think i can say it any stronger. They dont like the media. What do you say to them when you meet up with someone who is hostile to the New York Times and what you do . Peter you get a lot of emails or communications from readers that are unhappy. The ones that are truly scatological are over the top in terms of hatred. Those, i do not usually you too. Those that are angry, even if they are hostile, if you write them back and say i understand why you are saying that. Heres my thinking about why i wrote the article that way. If you give a thoughtful response that doesnt seem defensive but actually accepts that there is some legitimacy to peoples points of view and we are open to criticism, they almost always say they shouldnt have been so mean. They look at us as an institution. And, when they see us as individuals who can have a conversation with them, it becomes a healthier thing. Brian lets go back to 1992. This is you when you were at roll call. Susan it was the original newspaper of capitol hill. Before there was politico or the hill. It was founded in the 1950s. By a former hill staffer. In 1986 it was purchased by arthur levitt, at the time the head of the american stock exchange, and i think, if you remember, he had this great insight along with jim glassman that rather than just being a Real Community newspaper you could be serving one of the most important audiences in the world. The members of congress and the universe of capitol hill. With original news that goes deep on those subjects, the process and the politics that really mattered. It was always a really Smart Business proposition. The Washington Post had a monopoly market. But of course, people were paying huge premiums to reach all those readers of the Washington Post. In the suburbs and all over. How about to undercut them and just reach this specific, circuited influential audience. And of course, that has given rise to this all industry of targeted ideas and Issue Advocacy advertising. I was unwittingly stumbling into that. I became an intern at roll call in the summer of 1987. I was 18yearsold. Headnote i was at harvard. My dad read an article in the Washington Post about this very interesting media experiment. And, i didnt know these folks at all. I sent them a letter in those days. I think you did that in those olden days. I ended up with this really incredible experience. I came back to work there after i graduated in 1990. In 1992 i was probably the managing editor of roll call. I had this incredible window into washington. As it was transforming. The first postcold war election. This was the election of bill clinton. And, you know, this the beginning of the transformation of the media. What we did at roll call back then was very much a kind of preinternet kind of publication. Brian everything you to do can be seen on the internet. Lets watch this little clip of you in a roll call editorial meeting. Jim glassman and Morton Kondracke are there. Susan everyone has done their generic story on women candidates. What we should do is a story more specifically about which women. Where are they coming from . How many . And then, the flipside is the results of redistricting and how many new blacks and hispanics are going to be in the Democratic Caucus as a result. Right. The people that we know are coming as freshmen are almost exclusively minorities. Susan these new districts are ones that it is all most inconceivable that they could elect republicans. Brian 20 years earlier you would probably see no women in that room. What was the change like . Susan rollcall was a great place to go after college for any journalist male or female. It was a great window into covering National Politics. At a very young age. Not going that older route of a distant far out suburb newspaper and then a slightly closer in newspaper. Maybe someday getting downtown. We were very privileged to be able to jump right in under jim glassman. To cover National Politics and learned a lot of awful lot. It was kind of insulated from the society at large. It was a startup. Very young. Not very conscious of gender breakdowns. In 1992 there was the anita hill hearings. Looking back on my very young just out of college self and where women are in journalism today, i think i wouldve been disappointed and surprised at how much we are still having many of the same conversations. That is not to say that there hasnt been a certain amount of progress and many first woman barriers have been broken. The first woman editor of the New York Times, jill abramson, or the year of the woman we were talking about their in congress. Many many more women in congress today. Still only 20 though. The percentage of women ceos is still in the single digits. I think i wouldve been surprised. A much more uniform marched on progress. Maybe that is what you always have a sense of. It is interesting to see the debate this year over Hillary Clinton and what seems to be a generational divide between older women who have a sense of the barriers still existing for women in professions whether it is politics or journalism and a new group of voters these millennial voters, who seem to be bridling at the idea that you should vote for a woman just because of her gender. It is surprising. It is a small number. It is small and political journals and i will say that having been the editor of Foreign Policy magazines before i moved over to politico there are even fewer women in Foreign Policy circles and International Affairs circles than there are in political journalism. Brian how do you view it . Peter susan has been very blessed by having a lot of opportunities and she has made the most of them. Watching her up close has been inspirational for me. She has ended up being the editor of roll call. She was the editor of Foreign Policy. She is the editor of politico. But she is right, not enough women have ended up at that level in journalism. I have worked for women over the years. At the very top levels there is still a glass ceiling. There are different expectations, conscious or unconscious of what is allowed in the course of being an editor. I have worked for some male editors who are pretty tough guys and that was celebrated. And, you know, women, i still think, have a tougher time with that. Brian what year did you leave the Washington Post . Peter i went to the New York Times in 2008 and susan worked for Donald Graham and ultimately helped him by Foreign Policy magazine. Brian you werent very happy with the way susan was treated . Peter that is true. There had been a conflict in the newsroom. I felt that the leadership of the time didnt handle it well. I thought they were very i did not think they were as supportive or loyal to someone who had worked so hard and done so much and accomplished so much as susan did. Brian you said you would still be at the post if it hadnt been for that . Peter yes. I grew up with the post. At my house, we had the Washington Post and the washington star every day. When the washington star died, i got the times. I remember riding my bicycle seven miles to get the First Edition of the washington times. Washington journalism mattered to me. My dream was a waste to work for the Washington Post. Susan there are lots of different answers to what was the conflict. I learned a lot. I was the National Editor of the post at the time. And, these papers were not where they are today in terms of figuring out to the very uncomfortable digital transitions. Our friends and colleagues had just left you found politico. We were trying to reinvent political coverage. It was a special challenge for me to manage such a large staff of many very accomplished veterans. All of them extremely anxious about what this new era of transformation was going to be like. And, not incidentally i would say, the longtime editor of the post was replaced right after that. Brian leonard downie. Susan yes. And, i think the paper went through a big series of changes that needed to happen. It has been great to see its recovery over the last couple of years. The new owner and an infusion of new blood and new ideas. Brian the two of you were selling a book in 2007. Here is an interview i think at the press club. [video clip] susan very early on in Vladimir Putins tenure we met with one of his top Political Consultants and he said the goal was to and the revolution. What he meant was the revolution that toppled the soviet union back in 1991. Peter the west has to be open eyes and clear id about what russia is. Bromance was fooling ourselves into thinking ourselves that we would be a democratic figure. He doesnt want to be that. Brian when you look back at the four years you spent in russia what comes to mind . Peter that was a period of great transition and tumbled. Everybody thought we were coming in when people were getting boring. Yeltsin had stood up to the kremlin. Who was supposed to represent stability. It was a period of enormous change where Vladimir Putin began to turn things back. He turned out to be something we did not want him to be. Bryan and, what did you think . Susan we found out how invaluable it is to go out there and do reporting on the ground, be openminded, trust your instinct. We didnt come to it after decades of entrenched ideological positions one way the other about the soviet union and what the new russia should be. What we found was a resurgent nationalism. And, this fascinating figure of Vladimir Putin who really came out of the kgb, and was determined to perhaps it uses some of the tools of the west, and who had really been misread in some ways by people in washington and elsewhere in the west who wanted to believe in this onward trajectory of democratization in a western style way that really did not prove to be the russian trajectory. And so, for us, this was a revelatory experience and renewal in the face of the idea of going out there and judging for yourself and being openminded and reporting on the ground. People talk in a very cliched way about the value of being a foreign correspondent. Going out there and engaging with the world. For us that really was the case. I think that it changed and deepened our understanding of the world. It changed our trajectory as undoubtedly and made us better, deeper journalists when we came back here to washington. Brian when you two were working together, were you both euro chiefs in washington . Bureau chiefs in washington . How did you do it . How did you stay not at each others throats . Peter we wrote this book that we were promoting in that video. We did that while she was pregnant with our first and only child. We had this great story where we were back in washington and finishing up the book and we were coming home from dinner and she said i think the time is coming. And im like, what are you talking about, and she is like, i think the baby is coming. And we were out most of the night polishing these chapters. She finally went upstairs and went to sleep and i said i sent off those last two chapters to the publisher. And she said, that is good because i am having contractions. Susan cole and we were on cspan just the day before. We were at an event at the wilson center. We were presenting about russia. We agreed to do this and now i was nine months pregnant. And they were like, oh, by the way, we forgot to tell you but cspan is there. Who wants to do that . Somewhere in your archive is the day that our son was born. Brian how does putin look to you this was 2007 when you wrote the book. What year did you leave moscow . The end of 2004. The book came out in 2005. The trajectory, not only was he so there still there, but what has been really fascinating to watch is the trajectory, the art of putin is surprising in the sense that we didnt expect most russians were shocked when he invaded crimea. The war in ukraine, it was genuinely surprising. Putinism which is now a phenomenon, it looks like he may be the longestserving leader of russia since stalin. To have been there at the Foundation Period of that was to see the germs of all of these things. Putins love of these crazy photo ops and these bare chested horseback riding at his turn them into a global icon, we used to love to run photo essays of him. All of those things, that was the foundational period we happened to be in. In many ways, there was such a break from the 1990s story of russia, that there is more continuity with the story that we first stumbled into in 2000 through today. Brian were you able to interview him . Susan we were just talking about that. I was actually lucky enough, if that is the right word, to have been at the very first interview that Vladimir Putin gave to americans correspondence american correspondents in late spring. He was a very unknown figure. He was a former kgb guy, he was littleknown, he had no what experience with western journalists. We were invited to a roundtable at the kremlin library. They kept us waiting for hours, so this interview did not end up taking place until 11 00 p. M. At night. Ask what question she asked. Susan i remember i was three words of the way around this table, and he gives very long answers. Especially when he was new and insecure in the job, he was very eager to show us that he had mastered this briefing books. He was spouting walks of facts and figures, and figures can at every question gave a very long detailed answer with statistics almost right out of how the bureaus report on the farm crops kind of thing. We got three quarters of the way around the table to me, and no one had asked about the ongoing war in chechnya. There were many serious allegations of human rights violations, of terrible situations for the civilian population as russia targeted this breakaway province of its country. This was the war that has brought food and power Vladimir Putin to power. I was the newcomer, the youngest person the, and i was the one who got to ask him about chechnya and human rights. He did remember me after that. [laughter] brian is he speaking english . Susan he understands english, but he does translation in his formal setting. Brian i want to give you a chance to answer, but i want to show you Vladimir Putin at the end of last year, at an anniversary celebration of the startup of russia today, the Television Networks. Lets watch this, and then i want you to talk about the impact of this on the country. Our courageous advantage is that we allowed to to show yourselves. We are not making you do anything, you are free in your work. The opportunity to have fun, to enjoy your work. We can see the result of it. The result is awesome, great. I want to say happy anniversary, this is a great today, 10 years. You have managed to achieve a lot of things. All of that, i want to repeat myself. Six information channels have been created, and also global video agency. Today, russia is great. We are at number one unit is channel on youtube. [applause] brian so when you watch that, as an American Public television station that carries a here in the station, what is your action to him talking about the fun they will have . Peter it is a statefunded television operation that is meant to translate to the west basically the kremlins point of view. Their view is because cnn, cspan, and Washington Post are not giving them a fair shake, they have to counter. It is an information war. What i remember is the first story recovered when we got to russia. It was time putins takeover at mtv, the only independent network in russia. His whole rise to power was orchestrated through television. He understood that television mattered in russia as a way to maintain power, and to control the airwaves. It was a formative event of his early presidency. It showed a lot of what would come. So this is an extension of that. Tv matters in controlling politics. Brian how much information is blocked in russia, if any . Susan you can is only internet in russia, is not like china, theres no great firewall, at least yet. They are extremely successful in the manipulation of the information environment. The one and only independent Television Network that russia ever had was the very first thing that Vladimir Putin and his team, took over, understanding the importance of that. This is almost the only thing that finds this vast country couple of different time zones. It is hard to remember, here in the United States, back to the era when people sat at home and watched network news every night on one of three stations. But in russia, that has persisted as a habit. There are a network of websites that aggressively cover news in russia, or even the outside by various exiles and dissident types. Can get access to information, but the information environment has been thoroughly manipulated. It has been fascinating to watch some of the coverage of the war in ukraine began, especially over the last year. People have written fascinating and disturbing accounts of the just listened to the news in russia, what do you hear. You hear an alternate actual reality. Whether it is remembering the downing of the malaysian airplane, that is all a western conspiracy, russia had nothing to do with this, of course there are no Russian Troops in ukraine, despite all the documentation. The war in syria, their intervention, there is a starkly alternate reality that is presented. But of course this is a very powerful and sophisticated tool in many ways. It is not new. If you look at the historical accounts of how the soviet union kept power, or maintained new influence in Eastern Europe after world war ii, a great book that just came out a few years ago, that could be read as a guide to the kind of approach and sophisticated information operations, as they would call it in russia. It is the tools have changed and become so much more sophisticated. People should not think that just because theres the surface appearance of a Robust Network of websites, that people are not operating in a very propaganda atmosphere. Brian in 2015, in march from you play a role in a story that caused a bit of a kerfuffle. Lets watch this, and you can explain more of it. Journalists and columnists, not any of the reporters who cover him, he said he was going to announce the isis campaign. He invited some Foreign Policy people from various ministrations. I called all the people to try to guess what he was saying, and what was on his mind. The off the record restrictions not apply to me, so i cannot be held to a rule i do not agree to. It is our job to find out what he is thinking. Mexico of congress had gone in and talked to about this, i would call them and maybe they would tell me what he said as well. Brian give us the context. Peter the president of the united state has off the record meetings sometimes. Less so with the reporters, or with people who are opinion shapers. People who are influential writers. Sometimes he does it in a lot of people. He brought in about 17 people and not. My job as a reporter is to your what he is thinking and what he is doing, and saying. I called all the people in the room, and got enough information about what he is such reported out. There was a little kerfuffle, good word. But the people in the room could not write about it under the ground rules that they had agreed to move but i was not part of that, and i did not have an agreement with anybody to not write about it. It is my job to report out as best i can. Brian the editor of the New York Times as saying i do not think that anything the president has to say should be offlimits to the readers of the New York Times i would not have a News Reporter in that room. Please explain what that is all about . Peter a lot of people do not make the distinction that a newspaper like the New York Times has multiple pieces. There is the opinion page, and those were people say your liberal or conservative, because the judge your opinion page. Call this are free to do what they want. The newsroom is reporters who are taking a neutral, no sides approach to things. I am not taking sides. They feel pretty hot strongly that you have enough the record meeting with the president arises a reporter. The president of the United States, how could you hold us back from the readers . Is better for us not to participate in those kinds of meetings, because then we are not compromised. Brian you were called in, and the president said unelected tutee, off the record, what would you do . Susan i did attended off the record meeting once. It was in my capacity as a writer for political magazine. I reported International Affairs, a precursor to what i hoped to do when we are in jerusalem. I did attend a session like that i were to agree with peter and with others that that is not an appropriate role for a reporter. I think that it is a part of a very conservativ of the president s strategy of getting the message out without being publicly accountable for every word and every phrasing of what he is saying. Of course there is a long tradition of that, and we all know that president kenny was hanging out that kennedy was hanging out in georgetown radley, going only that, Teddy Roosevelt dazzled reporters with his extensive access to them. That stuff did not all my gives way into the press. I think we have seen the evolution and this last 15 years of the media. One of the very regrettable things in washington is that it becomes a more partisan atmosphere. We used to have our three networks as our national newspapers. Now we have millions of different platforms, a comingling of opinion and ideas, and certainly much more division between iran and america and the you that it likes, and a blue america and the media that it likes. One of the great things about the New York Times, one of the things that track to politico was the there are there is a dwindling island of open space in which both sides have to contend. That independence of journalistic inquiry is really valuable at a time when it is 85 for many other platforms when it is dwindling fast for many other platforms. Peter a quarter cant talk to the president on air force one after he comes back from a trip off the record. I have been there, and i cannot get off the plane, so ive been part of off the record sessions in that sense because you cannot control it. I do not want to make us up to be holier than though, but i sure there is concern about how you do that. I am concerned it becomes a substitute for on the record encounters. If the president get interviews to the White House Press with any kind of frequency, he took our questions that his predecessors did, that would be one thing. The problem is it has become a substitute for the in which he does not interact with the White House Press who cover day in and day out on a regular basis. Brian political magazine needed a magazine paste on the Obama Administration. Wendy think history will say about the Obama Administration 50 years from now . Susan that is the famous question. President obama sent to david remnick, i just want to get my paragraph right. We want historians to write overall this paragraph that we all know the first part of that paragraph. He was a twoterm president , he noessment and administration marked by scandals or cloud over the president personally and his judgment and decisions broadly speaking. Now, how will some of his policy decisions go . We were seriously debate everything from strategic assumptions, two other things to how his record will in the world is up in the air. What will the iran deal looked 10 years from now . We are just getting the beginning of the answer on if that is a start right through, or a new unraveling. Were not talking about the famous line during the opening. Hopefully well get it third before that. Brian how many years have you covered the Obama White House . Peter since the beginning. I came in with him. I covered the second term of president clinton, the second term of president bush, and everything from the beginning of president obama to now. Seven years, i guess. We are writing a biography of the former secretary of state james baker. It is only never done given given when external reading interesting life he has had it is oddly never been done given the extraordinary life he has had. He had his hand in every major thing that happened and what it for a generation. He represents an archetype in washington that does not exist anymore. Someone whos fiercely partisan, and then sat down and rewrote the tax code and settle other wars. He is an interesting figure. Brian how much access is he giving you . Peter he has sat down with us a number of times. Weve done a lot of good for a lot of interviews with people with him. We do not have enough time to work on the book, but it is a fascinating subject. Brian is there different role in your husband is playing for you on this book . Were dealing with another once in a generation historic president ial election. I would say that we are really lucky to be able to collaborate together, and i will pick it up after the election the how far we have got in with it, and keep running. Brian what is the difference in the way you approach journalism . Peter in some ways, we are the James Carville and mary matalin of german of journalism. Ira porter, she is an editor. People often think of her because of her editing of compliments, but they forget she was covering tora bora in afghanistan. She went into iraq daily american troops within but without an embedded unit. She covered the theater siege in moscow and so forth. But for the most part, what susans temperament and great vision in terms of editing is something i do not have an do not spend time on. I agree closely to the ground side of the equation. Brian how about you . Susan i do not entirely agree with his characterization. Peter is a great journalist, an extremely modest. He taught me an awful lot about journalism, and does have the stings of a great editor. He just chooses not to go in that direction. Peter if you getting an editor, in is so rare, you have to marry them. Susan we are incredibly lucky to be able to Work Together and complement each other. When we wrote kremlin rising, it was interesting to see the different ways in which we approached the writing. For example, he was very fast, and he we divided up the chapters that he wrote very quickly, much more quickly than i did. It was his first draft of these chapters where i was taking more time and somewhat more finished product, which, given that i also was pregnant with our son, and was on the back end of this project, not able to do as much, it made me feel good that my chapters were further along, because then he has a process of going through and stitching the book together and rewriting more intensively. We did have a different style and how we approached the writing side of this, but i think what we had in common that is really exciting is that we both love the story. Almost any story. I think we have obviously had a shared passion for trying to understand washington in this postcold war world. This has been the are of our careers, and i think the thing that stitches some of these disparate greases together, it is definitely true that peter, although he often is the person who deals with your stuff in our house is less interested in the kind of broad questions surrounding the digital reinvention of journalism, which is an energizing and exciting subject for me over the last decade, as i have seen a new set of possibilities for journalism open up. In some ways, he is the last newspaper guy. [laughter] peter i do what they tell me to do, but i just want to write story. If they want me to do it in 140 characters to i will do it 140 characters at a time. Brian if you look at your trip, how long will you stay in jerusalem . Peter a threeyear to her. Brian what do you want to do . Peter i am looking to get beyond the simple stories about the conflict and help washington readers understand israel on the ground. We on the stand here in washington, jews, arabs, agent hatreds, the wall, the occupied territories, this, that. There are so many very passionate people about this. They feel strongly about one side or the other, and its hard to find anything that satisfies both. I want to broaden the story, deep in the store, see what we can do about helping people understand what it looks like on the ground, how it actually plays out the on the very basic construct we have. I hope we continue. Brian what is one thing you want to do . Susan peter tells people that we decided to go to israel because we were tile tired of all the partisan fighting here in washington. Peter a place where everybody gets along so well. [laughter] susan for me, is a great story. It is always a great story, as an important story. There has been no part of the world has been more consequential for american Foreign Policy than middle east over the last 40, 50 years. And not to have that experience on the ground in a more deployed than we did in the iraq war would be missing out on something, especially right now. The conflagration around israel is really extraordinary. It was always a sense of this is an island, it is its own story, but now look what is happening in egypt. The quote is happening in syria. All the countries surrounding israel, jordan, which obviously is basically physically geographically connected most closely. 25 of the territory sorry, 25 of the population is refugees overwhelmed from the Syrian Civil War unfolding on its orders. This is an extraordinary moment both in terms of the middle east and in terms of the politics of israel. Talk to people here in washington as we have been doing. You have a mounting frustration. On the one hand this is a super Close Relationships and partnerships with the United States and israel have had, and do have. On the other hand the people who deal with the most closely are extremely frustrated. Not just because of the bad personal relationship between president obama and promise your netanyahu, there is a real sense that we might be independent point, a juncture, where the things we know about chiller are not working anymore. There is a growing sense of there is no real peace process, so what will come next . Brian how old is your boy, and what is his name . s name is seo, and he is 11 years old. Brian what is he thinking about moving to jerusalem . He is excited about it. He is an energetic explorer and endlessly curious about the world. Brian where will he go to school . Susan there is an International School there, we visited a couple of weeks ago. That will be part of the huge learning experience for him. This is a place with kids from all over. 30 turnover a year as the violence coming go as diplomats come and go. In seventh grade, Something Like to American Kids including him, and then children from all over the world. Brian i understand it right, youre not jewish . No. Brian in light of the years. Any fallout from that, good or bad . Peter a lot of times the figure would not send a jewish reporter. The executor back in the 1970s and we have to send somebody. I will send a jewish reporter. He said he would send david schindler. I think it can become cases, because people make assumptions about that. We go in without that kind of background. At the bureau chief, i do not have a stake in this one way or another hopefully we can report in oldfashioned Good Journalism rules. Brian peter baker, it has been a long time. Susan glass, the editor politico, they both go to jerusalem. We are out of time. Thank you very much. For free transcripts or to give us your comments about this Program Visit us at q a. Org. Q a programs are also available at cspan podcast. Ch 14, 2016. I hereby appoint the honorable adrian smith to act as speaker pro tempore on this day. Signed, paul d. Ryanner, of the house of reprent

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