but can was kicked down the road and nobody wanted to deal with it. this was political correctness gone awry time after time, he is defending osama bin laden and proselytizing and nobody wants to deal with it. is the military changing its strategy in dealing with people they can perceive to be radicalized and within our military and our bases? >> our behavioral indicators captured all the key indicators we believe would indicate someone is going down the path of radicalization. the sharing of information, i would be glad to share specific examples with you in the closed hearing about how that process now works much more effectively. >> the time of the gentleman has expired. i would like to know the details of -- >> i recognize my colleague from new york. >> i appreciate this opportunity. i was with the father of a young man who was stationed there while he was awaiting word whether his son was dead or alive. we suffered through this as did the country and the families who survived. i know you want to get it right. let that be the last case we ever have been one of our military bases. i represent a base in upstate new york, the niagara falls airport space. i have learned a lot. there is a hezbollah threat facing us across the border in toronto. that is not far from my air force base. homeland security has reported there are more threats to terrorism in this country on the northern border than the southern border. our border with canada is virtually unprotected. do you feel there is additional threat to any bases along the northern border as opposed to the southern border and are additional safeguards being taken to protect us? >> along the northern border, based commanders are required to take those special circumstances into account. >> thank you. >> u.s. northern command has the authority to set conditions at bases and their area of responsibility includes northern and southern borders and i think they do that very well. >> in addition, i would add there has been a significant movement in a northern border initiative between enter agency -- between interagency is to share information and make that available to a variety of forces. that is really helping our understanding. >> understand that today's hearing is focused on the threat to our domestic bases and i am one -- and i am concerned about our bases overseas. we have lost people due to the threat of a one is to make sure that our focus is not limited only to airbase is domestically. we have to protect them from these threats as well. i hope we're taking a holistic approach to this. my area has been affected by the first known domestic terrorist after 9/11 which was the lackawanna 6 case. we had people in our backyard who trained with osama bin laden and they knew there was going to be an attack on 9/11 so we need to be village -- vigilant. those people have been cooperating witnesses. i want to make sure there is no place else where people are engaging in activity that could be harmful to our bases. you understand the lessons from fort hood and i am pleased that we all agree that this can never happen again in our country. thank you very much. >> she was too modest to point out that her husband is one of the lead prosecutors on terrorism in northern new york. i will ask the witness is to remain for the questioning of our next witness. is the father is soldier killed outside an army recruitment center in 2009. he has a distinguished record of service to country that includes 17 years of an listed service in the united states marine corps and tenures as an officer. during his military career, mr. long served eight years overseas and 19 years in the operating forces of spinelli marine force. in addition, he spent his childhood in afghanistan and has visited roughly 50 countries including pakistan, india, yemen -- yemen, lebanon, iraq, and iran. between him and his wife janet, his family has been connected with the armed forces since 1918. i would like to acknowledge the presence of mr. melvin bledsoe who is seated behind him. he testified before the house committee in march of this year. he is the father of the man convicted of murdering mr. long's son. this is a testament to two fathers who have considerable pain to stand together in the fight against islamic extremism. thank you for being here again today and thank you for your testimony back in march. i am privileged to recognized mr. long for his opening statement. >> ranking member thompson and distinguished members of congress -- since my son's death, my view of things have changed i have laid awake through my it was nightmares when she remembers being 50 feet away when my son was shot. i was a career marine. my wife served in the navy and was honorably discharged. our family has served in various military branches since world war one. we have once an insert in iraq as an army cavalry scout and one son who was infantry who was buried in the ground. my faith in government has diminished. there is euphemisms and said accurate language while perpetrators use the very words to justify their actions did clarity is absent. little rock is a drive by and for good is a workplace accident. three days after my son died, it was reported on the internet that stated the white house had released a statement on the little rock shooting. it was only to arkansas news outlets that they asked for one. the white house did not think there is much interest in this story otherwise. we believe the push from certain press outlets and talk review put pressure on the white house and the president's response and i terrorist attack against an abortion doctor which contrasts with the statement of the killing and wounding of american soldiers in america's heartland. the white house issued a letter and we received a personal phone call from the president. statement is's conspicuously absent from the internet. men were arrested for planning to go to yemen and join al- shabab. there were federal indictments for terrorism. the government but a somali crossing -- the perpetrators have rights in trial but my son has no rights. the former homeland security secretary said we just got lucky when the christmas day and new york times bombers failed. luck is not as effective counterterrorism strategy. great law enforcement but nothing was thwarted. the fourth episode was planned by a soldier who had been the subject of a mainstream media blitz for taking his conscientious objector stamped out of going to afghanistan. he was painted as the peaceful muslim poster boy with principles. it is telling that his discharge was on hold because he was facing child pornography charges and was awol from fort campbell, ky. in an attack that resulted in the first death and wounding of american soldiers on u.s. soil since 9/11, action by the department justice is absent. little rock in has changed into nothing more than a drive-by shooting. the jihad in america has been downplayed by the government and the mainstream media causing irreparable change to the families involved as well as flat-out lying to the american people. i am convinced the government's position is to deny little rock as a terrorist attack. by not being open, transparent, and despite promises to do so, two soldiers have been abandoned on the battlefield and the advancement of a political agenda. november 5, 2009, an attack took place at fort hood. in each instance, there was no federal indictments. if you plan or fail in a terrorist attack, you will be charged. if you kill in this country under the banner of jihad, we are told is not terrorism and federal judicial response is neither confirm or deny. we firmly believe that if the white house had shown the same attitude concerning little rock as was shown in the killing of the abortion doctor, a clear message could have been sent. the political correctness exhibited by the government over offending anyone in admitting the truth about islamic extremism would sound a belt. warnings were ignored and the major was able to openly paraded little rock shooting in front of fellow officers and commit his own jihad. the last planned attack at fort hood was stopped because an ordinary citizen recognized besides. if our government and press had done their jobs and calling out and reporting on little rock, fort hood may have been avoided. the blatant masking in disregard of the facts not only endanger american citizens of non-muslim faith that those of muslim heritage who do not adhere to the extremist police demonstrated by a militant and political form of jihad. i grew up in afghanistan, living there for a decade. i have travelled in over 50 countries. many of them primarily are of muslim culture. i will not condemn the religious rights. rational people do not deny these terrorist events or the result of a man who adopted practices that were worked. the confusion being sent by our leaders is undermining the security and terrorist -- and fabric of our men and nation. they deny these terrorist acts of terrorism. he was and a violent islamic extremists. my family kept silent for over two years. we will not be silent again. we are speaking not out of hate but because our country needs to hear the truth. this administration is to heed the words -- if the trumpet makes an unclear sound, who will prepare for battle? thank you. >> thank you for your testimony and your courage and being here today. thanks to your wife was not here but she is the rock of the family, as you have told us. one of the issues that struck us when mr. bledsoe testified back in march is why did the justice department not treat this as a terrorist prosecution? the fbi was aware. they had been monitoring and for whatever reason, the monitoring was pulled back or something was allowed to happen unintentionally. rather than go through an embarrassing case and prosecution, it was deferred to the state. i find it very unusual in a case where you as someone who was trained overseas, sent back here, carrying out a political jihad is murder is not treated as a terrorist. can you tell us what you have learned from your investigation as to why this was not prosecuted by the federal government as a terrorist of fans? >> i really can't tell you why. rational people could not tell you what. we looked at what happened to my son. they said he just does not read a purple heart. muhammed as many entries on the internet. this is what i submitted to the secretary of the army. it was to get the army to go through the regulation mentioned in here that comes from army regulations. go down to paragraph 8 and it says in the case of international terrorism that the secretary of the army has the authority to do that but it has to have an investigation done and submitted by a major command intelligence security officer. we still have no answer on whether that was done. we just get a criminal act now. that denies the fact that abdul hakim maohammed flew to yemen on 9/11. why would he pick that day? he is arrested on november 14, 2008 in his possession he's got bomb-making materials, he's got alaki tapes and a fix the melia passport. what would he have that? he was going to somalia. when i met with the fbi in september of 2009, i ask them that question and they could not said. i said it is rhetorical. i have been to somalia and served there during restore hope. the average guy camry but if you show him a piece of paper with a bunch of rubber stamps on it, he will let you go through because he does not know if his warlord to care of it. he was on his way there. he goes into a jail house and within hours an fbi agent from national is interviewing him in yemen. on the ninth of february this year, "the los angeles times" reports that the federal government knew this guy was dangerously radicalize before he ever came back to the united states. the fbi agent goes back and tells them if you ever get out of this godforsaken place i will hound you two of you died. he is deported. i did not know the state department had it in to do with that but there was also reported that under urging from the embassy, he was deported out of their rather than have a trial there. as of the hearings we had before, the state department was involved in getting this guy years and now we are importing these people back here. he gets back here and is interrogated again in nashville. he stays in memphis for a couple or three months and moved to little rock and within a month he gains over 1000 rounds of bullets, an sks rifle, a 380 pistol, and a 22 caliber rifle. he decides to go on his jihad. when he bought the rifle and a one stopped him, he said it is on. this was his plan that he worked up according to his letters while he was in the political prison in yemen with his fellow brother al-qaeda people. in a brief to the national guard and little rock brock, the fbi called him and al qaeda adherents. . the army last august put out a big trading syllabus on how to deal with terrorism. they identified the little rock shootings as terrorism. they sent me a letter and said this is a criminal event. they don't get it both ways. it took me two years to get these back, these are my sons dog tags. they were these when he took four rounds of ammunition from about 3 feet. on that, there is the warrior ethos -- the last line is i will never leave a fallen comrade. the army left him. >> the senator from connecticut, mr. lieberman. >> thank you. thanks to you, chief long. your statement was extremely powerful. it brings to mind the very important role that family of people were killed on 9/11 have had in influencing and shaping our government's reaction to 9/11. thankfully, this group of survivors that you are in our smaller. i hope you'll think about being in contact with survivors of people who were lost at fort hood. availableg yourselves because her testimony is very powerful and it is real. i think it is what any of us here would feel if we were the father or the mother of a young man who was killed simply because he was wearing the uniform of united states army. i appreciate your testimony. it is very moving that mr. bledsoe is here and you have established some kind of relationship after this tragedy. i am sure he feels the kind of pain that is a different kind of paint but because of what his son has done -- before preparing for this hearing, i did not know about this problem regarding the awarding of the purple heart. in this case. i think, mr. chairman and ranking member thompson, we should get together -- there is an administrative process. i got worried when i heard this describes by the first witnesses that the language as it exists now regarding the awarding of a purple heart has got the folks at the defense department in a box that nobody in congress wants them to begin. - to be in. your son should be awarded the purple heart posthumously. a conference committee this afternoon on the department of defense authorization bills that have passed. i'm sure everybody would support this. i will see it weaken draft of some language that could be included in that conference report which hopefully will be passed by the end of this calendar year. if not, we will do it separately as quickly as we can. we argued a lot about how to handle detainee's in the senate and house on this bill i am talking about. one thing that was mentioned over and over again is that there is a supreme court holding that says an american citizen such as miss bledsoe who is found to be an enemy combatant can be treated that way. in other words, as having committed an act of terrorism. in my opinion, he ceded be subjected to military incarceration. -- he should be subjected to military incarceration and tribunal. coming of which you have experienced, i want to ask you -- i know you have spoken from your heart and with disappointment and anger about some things that the government has not done -- have you received any support and have sufficient has that support been from the u.s. government and other sources after the killing of your son? >> i believe that what was left purely to the u.s. attorney in arkansas and a senior agent charged the fbi, this would have been in federal court. i have to say that in dealing with the casualty affairs officer, he has become a good friend of mine and we talk to each other on a weekly basis. he's got me pull the to the survivor of respect i have talked to several other families. arkansas lost 119 people that are connected with the war and terror. -- the war on terror. there are a lot of good things that have come out of this as a part of. most of it is on a local scale. >> my time is up but i want to thank you again. i know you have a life of your own that you are living but the occasions where you could come forward and speak out, you can change the policy of this government, i believe, and i thank you for being here today. >> thank you chairman lieberman. i recognize the gentleman from mississippi, mr. thompson. >> thank you, mr. chairman. mr. long, thank you for your service and thank you for coming to this joint hearing. like my colleagues before me, we are deeply saddened by your tragic loss. i also want to say to german lieberman -- to chairman lieberman that i am one of the conferees are in thisdod authorization effort. if there is a possibility that we can craft some language that can provide the relief for this family in this situation, i would love to do it. >> thank you, mr. thompson. let's work together today. >> i look forward to it. the broader public policy issue is in the conversation, too. i look forward to working with you on that. again, let me offer my personal condolences and sent this to the tragic loss. i look forward to doing whatever we can as a committee to correct any pest issue that we have identified the cause of this situation going forward. i yield back. >> i would just point out that germany lundgren full support state -- chairman lundgren supports the language for the purple heart for a recognize the man from minnesota. >> thank you for being here. your combined efforts here representing your son's is touching. i don't get it. i military officer for 24 years i don't understand what your son has not received a purple heart. after his arrest, mohammed acknowledge the shooting of a man and he said he intended to kill as many army officers as possible. he had several weapons and military books in his car. he said he had been sent by al- qaeda and the arabian peninsula and the attack was justified according to islamic law and the islamic religion. he wanted to fight a war against those who wage war on islam. he was charged with capital murder, attempted capital murder, and 10 counts of unlawful discharge of a weapon. he also reportedly faced 15 counts of engaging in terrorist acts. i don't understand what the army has not gone ahead and offer your son the purple heart at the very least. >> they are looking at a state crime. they said it is gang-related. it is a state law dealing again suppression. you are targeting someone inside a house in a drive-by shooting type of thing. the thing i don't understand is in mohammad's on handwriting to the fbi and the prosecutor on may 30, midnight, he started a job by shooting up a jewish rabbis house in west little rock. he then drove to memphis where he parked outside another jewish rabbis house but because the neighbors were too loud, he moved on. he then drove up to florence, ky which was his first recruiting center that he was planning on hitting but it was closed. in frustration, he decided to come back to little rock and on the way, he stopped by national and threw a molotov cocktail at another rabbi's house in the west end of nashville. it failed to explode. my understanding is they have that molotov cocktail in evidence. when he came back to little rock, he drove by, saw the target of opportunity with my son coming out of date recruiting center and drove into the parking lot and came around and did his attack. at this point, i am looking that this guy is a 20%. b hisda is 20 hi --s bda is 20%. in a taped interview by the fbi that was allowed in the trial in little rock, he specifically tells the fbi that he went places in yemen. they estimate those places where. you go back to the army doctrine published in 2007, terrorism in the 21st century, they e asifically identify dmagamaga a front for terrorists. this guy was in damage. there is nothing else there but terrorist training. it is the same john l walkerynn 12 for his training. where are these guys? where are they in here doing this stuff? >> i can tell you that i will not leave your son behind. >> thank you, sir. >> i will take this as a personal challenge to me. i am very disappointed in the secretary of the army not recognizing your son and i will continue forth with that mission. >> thank you, sir. >> i will yield back. >> i recognize the gentle lady from texas for five minutes. >> mr. long, i mentioned earlier about remorse and sympathy to your family. i thank you for not remaining silent and the presence of b mr.ledsoe to acknowledge the pain he experiences as well. i think we clarified for the record and i think you were present in the room that those representing united states military are remorseful of this enormity of loss of life. combined with that, i think the virtues of our constitution and the first amendment make us a great country and make us able to answer the concerns you have expressed but i think we have a solution here. you have heard a senator, a house member, another house member, another senator from arkansas and a member from texas who experienced an mourned with those in fort hood going in a fast-paced to resolve this. i think because our country is in new, not very new, at dealing with this issue of terrorism, our statutory laws may not have grappled with the. chain change. and a fallen soldier in the action of their duty clearly are defined, as far as i'm concerned, as a fallen hero. fort hood has the same crisis and the same situation. i cannot ask you what our soldiers were unarmed. i will not ask the question to you. the question that i raise -- it is a policy on domestic territory on this land of the united states. some americans would be wondering why this happened. why weren't they armed and have to understand that our soldiers are called to. battle we are not harming them. --arming them. maybe we have to look at those questions. the one thing that i will hope, mr. long, is that from hearing from us today that your words that indicated that your faith in government is diminished will be somewhat tempered and you might see a glimmer of hope and a response to the activism of your family. i hope that will be something you'll come away with today. i want to ask this question because out of your pay and can come in sight. you heard the open discussion beginning to look at the behavior of an individual, of the perpetrator you were dealing with. there were actions over and over again. and the behavior as evidenced hussein was not passed on because there was no policy. what other tools do you think we need when we look at this domestic terrorism, recognizing the particular actor associated with that particular style but recognizing that this does not condemn muslim-americans but what tool do we need? >> mr. bledsoe and guide boat lost our sons that dead. -- both lost our sons that day. i'm a father. my kids come home and they do certain things and i know that have done certain things that they will not tell me what they are doing and it takes awhile to figure out what they're doing. that is a need to kind of thing. if you know with the bad guy is doing and you know you are doing, you will win all your wars. if you don't know what the bad guy is doing and you know what you're doing, you will win half of them. if you don't know what you're doing and you don't know what they're doing, you will lose everything. to me, the banishment of certain terms and words -- those of the words that mohammed used. those and not the words i used. in islamic law carried out in reliance of the traveler, he describes the jihad as a war against non-muslims. if you understand those terminologies, you can get inside their decision cycle and break that cycle. it has to be both but it has to be clear. it has to be concise and you have to say the truth and worth the trip. >> we are doing that here and we will not leave, as my colleague said, your soldiers, your son and the soldiers at fort hood, we will not leave them behind in not being honored by the united states of america. i think you have a chorus of support here today and by the end of this hearing, we will have a resolution to honor all those who fell in this type of action. i thank you, chairman. i think we have learned a lot that we are ready to move forward as quickly as possible. >> i recognize the gentleman from new york, mr. turner, for five minutes. >> i thank you for your testimony, mr. long. you are eloquent and spot on. i simply want to thank you for your service and shining polite on this problem. -- shining a light on this problem. jihad is not clearly understood that even the tools of jihad are not. tekia is a term for deceiving and fooling the enemy is a useful tool in jihad. we should know a little bit more about that. again, thank you for your testimony. god bless you and your family. i yield back. >> bank der. >> i now recognize the gentle lady from california, ms. richardson, for five minutes. >> thank you, mr. chairman. i would like to request unanimous consent to enter in a final statement for the record. >> so ordered. >> mr. long, i would like to say that you can count on me and standing with my colleagues who have already spoken today in my effort for the proper recognition of your son and his service. i want to thank you personally for your service and for both of your sons. i also want to commit to you that i will forward your testimony when it is available to both the president and his administration with a personal note of what i personally heard you say here today. you should not have to say it time and time again that i appreciate your willingness to continue to talk to us and make sure that we are better informed and we don't make these same mistakes in the future. i want to thank your ,mr. king, for your relationship with mr. long and bringing him here today. it is these experiences that we as members of congress must know so that we can do better and this administration can all -- also do better. thank you very much bett. >> i'm not mr. king but i happen to have my five minutes up at this point in time. mr. long, we can do certain subjects from different perspectives. when i was privileged to serve in my state as attorney-general, i tried to take the perspective of the victims when i looked at the criminal justice system because i thought that was the perspective that had not been appreciated for a long period time. it does not mean it was the only perspective but it was appropriate. you have a unique perspective here. in your testimony, you said we suffer from a lack of clarity. our effort to you find anything wrong with of "xpression used radical jihad" or "of violence islamic extremism" with the knowledge you have a different parts of the world a different religions? does it misleads us? does it help us? is it part of the lack of clarity? >> i believe it is part a lack of clarity. let me put it this way -- in the 10 years that i grew up there, i graduated high school there, i was there during the cuban missile crisis in afghanistan. my dad built canals helmund province. my brother-in-law is the grandson of the former king of afghanistan. my nieces are his offspring. i have a love for those people over there. i was glad that we cited to do something about this terror that was going on. is lummis many thanks. it is a religion and our first amendment gives the freedom with respect to the government not interfering with that. it is also political. it is also social. it is also economical and it is also military. when we can sort out what is what, i think we can have a better discussion on it. if you lump it all under the protections of religion, you'll never get to that. we gave a certain portion of my insurance to dr.you michaelssef down in atlanta and he sends messages down to north africa and they were moved that we did not have this feeling of saying we need to bomb them all. i am opposed to that. we need to be responsive but we need to be honest in what we are doing. that is the real thing, clarity. it is a man-made disaster. kinetic military action is a war. in arkansas, they would laugh you out the store if you came up with words like that. >> you have served this country in addition to your son having given the last full measure. as someone in the military, under the circumstances we're talking about, would you consider something you should bring to the attention of your superiors if you saw a fellow officer that put on his card that he was a soldier allah? >> 1995 -- i have a trip over in okinawa. he had a tattoo and it is a practice in the marine corps when you recruit people or if you get selected for an office of program they take pictures of the tattoos to make sure they are not gang-related. if you have those, you will not get promoted and you are not getting in the service. if someone -- is the statutory zero q tech. there should not be a policy that you should do this. when you see something wrong, you need to execute that statutory text. you also honor that oath. i still go by that oath. my son took that oath. when it is wrong, you need to do something about it otherwise you are derelict in your duties. to formalize the and policy -- to formalize it in a policy tells me something is broken. >> i thank you very much for your testimony. i think it is wonderful we are attempting to learn from the lessons and we are trying to change things. it is an old saying that common sense is not so common anymore. if you have to tell people that those signs of a red flag, it seems self evident that those are red flags unless there is a pressure being created in your environment where you are afraid to raise the red flag. that goes beyond defining what the red flags are. that goes to the atmosphere that has been created. i don't know if you overturn the atmosphere by saying those are red flags. it is good we are saying they are red flags but it seems to me that it is the manner in which you put those in context and bring an alert when alert should be done. i thank you very much and i return my time. >> the gentleman from michigan is recognized for five minutes. >> thank you, mr. chairman. thank you mr. long for your service and thank you for bringing clarity to the room today. in a more complete way. my wife and i had the opportunity to be more proud of our sun than ever before because of recruiters like your son who recruited my son into the army and a son who spent part of his training in fort hood as well it has some relation in my mind. to have the pride of a son who serve will in with great desire his country is one thing. to have the distinction of honor and a son who served his country to the last ounce of blood is even greater. thank you for being here. if i am not crossing the line here, i would like to ask you if you would be willing to elaborate -- i appreciate the fact that mrs. long is not here and chose not to be here at this hearing -- if you would be willing to elaborate on what she heard and what she saw and what her reaction was and what was the last time your wife saw your son alive, i would appreciate hearing that. >> about 10:15 in the morning and she had driven my son down to little rock to the recruiting station. he did not have a car and we were running with foreign car. one car. she drove him down there and she was sitting outside in the parking lot. he had gone in and they had not been keeping him very long for a. he was a s kind of ahill to get others to come in. he stepped out of the recruiting office and my wife looked out and said maybe i should go over and talk to them. she was ready to get out of the car and do this. another soldier came out with him and she said he has a friend and i will let them talk. she sat back down and the car and started reading and she heard it three separate gun fire bursts. as she was getting out of the car, she looked over and could see one soldier on the ground, another one trying to get back into the recruiting center, and a black truck driving off. about that time, sergeant kennedy came out and grabbed hold of her because she knew he was in the parking lot and they escorted her back past my son. private for d classobbs was doing cpr on my son. some of the other recruiters were in there trying to take care of the other soldier. i got a call at 10:19. she called an apparent said andy has been shot. my reaction is what are you talking about? they are doing cpr right now. , she said. her biggest regret is she did not get over to him but she also knows there were people who were competent that could provide first aid. that is her biggest regret. i had to almost priorities out of her fingers to bring them appear to show you these today. it took us two years, three months to get them back. the dealings with going through this, all she could see is my son's legs popping up as they performed cpr on him. the next time we sudden, he was in the emergency room and was declared dead and they allowed her to go in there and it was messy. she saw all the wounds. the next time i saw him was they had cleaned him up and we were not able to touch them. he was evidence. that was two years of trying to figure out what went on and who shot him. we were promised by the little rock u.s. attorney's office that they would ask the feds to step down. we met with them again and it goes on and on. our first reaction on november 5, 2009 -- i was out in the broad wording in it -- on a project. i ran into a house because i know she watched the news. i said you have to turn the tv off. it has happened again. her first thing was -- i told you it would happen. they're not listening. our thing was to get a hold of my daughter said that she would not see the measure. every time this happens, it is a traumatic event. their loss down there is not lost on us. there are 30 more parents -- there are 13 more parents going through this. >> mr. long, thank you -- evidence but not a purple heart -- that is clarity, that is graphic. that is the impetus and reminder to us and thank you for your willingness to share that. >> thank you. >> chief long i want to thank you for your testimony. it was a privilege to have you here today. we will do what we can on two levels, to make sure that we can ensure what happens to your son happens to no one else and also to insure that he gets the type of recognition he deserves which would be a purple heart. >> mr. chairman, i echo your remarks and may i make a parliamentary inquiry to senator lieberman? >> yes, ma'am. >> you indicated there might be a conference on thedod. i am delighted that mr. long chose to be courageous on behalf of his son but also mention the tragedy of fort hood. is it your intent that your language of the generic that ultimately, depending on the circumstances in fort hood, that it might cover that situation as well? >> by coincidence, this afternoon at 3:00, the first meeting of the house and senate conferees on the department of defense authorization bill for the next fiscal year is convening here on the house side. -- mr. thompson is a conferee which i did non know and so is mr. lundgren. our aim would be to amend the language in a manner that would not just relate to private long and the other soldier wounded there but also to the folks of fort hood but to change the statute so it can be clear that the circumstances of this kind, there should be no question of the awarding of a purple heart. >> i thank the chairman for his clarification. i might want to engage with the chairman on some thoughts on the language in light of the overall circumstances that we find ourselves in. i thank him for the clarification and our overall sympathy to those who have fallen in battle. with that, i will yield back the. >> we will do what we can to ensure that a what happened to your son does not happen to others. we thank all the members for their comments. everything will be done at the authorization conference to try to bring some measure of justice here and two others who also been killed and wounded in such a tragic way. with that, thank you for your testimony and what to pack all the witnesses for their testimony the members of the committee may have additional questions. we can respond to those in writing. the hearing will be open for 10 days. senator lieberman, do you have been closing comments? >> not all, just a thank-you german king, this has been a very productive hearing. -- thank you, chairman king, this is that it very productive. we have learned a lot and we are carrying out our responsibility to oversee the protection of people here at home from terrorist attacks, particularly people of the armed services and their families. it happens that this particular action, we have the ability to carry out on the purple hearts emerges from this testimony. i think this has been a very thoughtful and informative and productive. and i look forward to working with you and our right and members to find other occasions to get together -- with you and our ranking members to fund other cases to get together. >> i look forward on the purple heart matter since there is a unanimity of agreement that we can do what we need to do to try to make it happen. >> thank you. i want to thank senator lieberman especially for his willingness to hold this joint hearing. this is a very serious hearing. of you know how many realize how many senators get to walk over to the house side for this hearing. senator lieberman has involved in this struggle for so many years. he was there before many of us were involved and want to thank him for his work. thank you for coming together on this hearing. he is a great friend and great american. with that, during will be held open for 10 days and pursuant to the motion we agreed on earlier today, the hearing will stand in recess and will reconvene in 10 minutes in closed session a down one floor below us. we stand for recess. 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