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Hello, im wolf blitzer reporting from washington. We start in iraq, where the battle in iraq has now shifted back to the fight over iraqs oil. Right now, isis insurgents are fighting iraqi forces for control over the countrys largest oil refinery. This is a vital facility thats just 130 miles from baghdad. It produces about onethird of the countrys entire oil output. Our Senior International correspondent Nic Robertson is joining us from baghdad. Were hearing conflicting reports on whos actually in control of this hugely important refinery. What do you know . Well, without this refinery online, the country is getting short of cooking gas. The prices have gone up fivefold were told in some cities. Fuel for cars. There are lines three or four hours at some of the gas stations now. People just dont have the gas. Because this refinery is continually being fought over. Just last night, we were being told by three independent sources that isis had, in fact, taken control of the refinery. This is a large facility. A 35mile perimeter fence around it. Four different refinery complexes within it. But today the government, the Army Spokesman said, once again, that the military was fighting for control of it. Indeed, had control over parts of it. Were also hearing the same narrative about talafar, that important air base and town north of the country. Again, not clear who controls it, fighting continuing there. The government also saying today it had taken control of a Border Crossing point into syria, and one goes into jordan, linked iraq to jordan. This, because isis militants have posted pictures online, indicating that they have taken control of it. Again, impossible for us to get to these locations and determine exactly whos in control. It paints a very fluid picture here, wolf. A very brutal picture. Critically important, if iraqs to continue to export oil as well, its a major oil exporting country. As you also know, nic, there was a statement from the Iraqi Military, insisting that all of the towns between baghdad and samarra, they are now under control of iraqi state forces. I guess the question is, a, does the Iraqi Military, the public statements they put out, do they have a whole lot of credibility . Are they backed up by the facts . Are you getting a sense if they are true that the Iraqi Militarys beginning to step up and do flex their military muscle . You know, what theyve said is theyre doing these tactical withdrawals and then retrenching and refocussing on other areas. That area were talking about, dialas province, just north of baghdad. South to samarra. This is essentially becoming a buffer zone for the military, that they want to keep isis out of. The west of the city, its a little different. Isis forces are much closer to baghdad. But the hard bit, again, is for us to get independent information. We try to drive today to the western limits of baghdad. Its impossible for us to get there. Its impossible to get out, get that independent confirmation, wolf. Nic robertson, be careful in baghdad, thanks very much. Lets get to the political side. The secretary of state john kerry is now wrapped up talks with the iraqi government. Hes trying to cobble together a compromise of sorts. He spoke with our own chief National Security correspondent jim sciutto about the white houses message, the prospects of a new unity government in iraq. In your time here, have you seen any hard evidence of any of the parties involved willing to make compromises . What hard concessions have any of the sides offered to each other to bring about this political compromise you and the administration say is necessary . Well, its the question. And i welcome it. Because i think what i have found here is, first of all, the significant fact that 14 million iraqis went out and voted. Very significant percentage of the population chose democracy. And there is a constitutional process. Which we, in our strategic framework agreement, are pledged to be supportive of. And we are. That constitutional process is actually playing out right now. So while he says theres a new reality, the new reality is theyre under attack from isil, and theyve realized that they cannot continue with this sectarian division. So part of the new reality is yet to be fully defined as they form this new government. And so thats the critical thing now. Thats the mention thats so key now. And, you know, i think we have to let that organic process work out a little bit. Words are cheap. Jim also pressed secretary kerry on his comments about strategy and the american response. You said sustained and intense would be u. S. Military action would be sustained and intense if the president decides to go forward. Wonder for you could better define the time frame but also the measure of success of military action. Is it isis destroyed, isis retreating . Is it a partial retreat . Thats precisely the strategy that needs to be defined as we go forward. What i said would be intense would be the support to the government of iraq and our efforts to try to help build the rebuild the military structure, as well as, hopefully, support a new unity government. Were going to have more of jims conversation with secretary kerry later this hour. Stand by for that. While the u. S. Considers its political options, its also considering some military options. The white house saying it has not yet made a decision on whether to use air strikes but so far the u. S. Military says its drones have not been part of any attacks anywhere inside iraq. Barbara starr, our pentagon correspondent, has been following these developments. What are they saying so far about the possibility of air strikes, that air option Going Forward . Still on the table, wolf, still the president making no decision, and many u. S. Military officials saying that air strikes basically will not solve the political crisis inside of iraq. It is not going to destroy isis. Its not going to make the Iraqi Military any stronger. Its not really going to achieve much. So why is it still on the table . Well, theres tree basic scenarios that would make air strikes come about at this point. First and foremost, if those u. S. Military advisers going into iraq came under enemy fire, you can bet warplanes will roll in and protect them until they can be got be out of that. The other two strategic issues, if isis were to make a run for baghdad, the u. S. Is not going to stand by and let baghdad fall. And there are questions, no answers yet, about whether the Iraqi Military would be Strong Enough to defend all of baghdad, if that scenario were to happen. And then there is the jordanian isis within miles of the jordanian border, a lot of concern that they could try and cross into jordan. Not likely that the u. S. Or even israel is going to let that happen. So you see this scenario building, where there could be the potential for air strikes, if that decision was made, right now, today, there are seven u. S. Navy warships in the persian gulf, about 1,000 marines, and also dozens and dozens of warplanes in the region. U. S. Officials saying its not no decision to do it, but openly acknowledging they are still collecting of course that crucial targeting intelligence on isis and they will be ready if this were to come to that, wolf. When you speak with pentagon planners and you ask the question, whats the downside of launching air strikes, either from jet fighters or from drones, what do they say . Well, its a couple of things. First of all, its really one of the crucial questions that youre pointing to right now. If the u. S. Were to launch air strikes, it may be perceived in the region as being proshia, pro on the side of the maliki government, and drive the sunnis even closer into the isil camp. Thats a big concern, that the u. S. Would seem to be taking sectarian sides. Fundamentally, this is a political dispute. The violence is brutal, but behind all of it is basically the u. S. Feeling that the maliki government simply has not included the sunnis. They have been driven into essentially the isil camp already. Thats how isil is making so much progress in taking over territory. Bombs dont solve that. Its never, in the last 13 years, basically brought an end to militant ideology. It is a political issue, not an issue for bombs on target, if you will. Wolf. All right, barbara, thanks very much. Barbara starrs other at the pentagon. Its a bitter race that sometimes waded into the mississippi mud. Now its time for voters to decide again. 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Lets bring in our senior political analyst Ron Brownstein whos joining us. Thats a powerful statement from that witness testifying on behalf of the national archives. It is a big deal. Democrats on the committee and in general in congress i think had made a lot of progress at sort of rebutting the initial charge that Tea Party Groups were uniquely targeted by the irs as opposed to a broader look at groups that were politically active. Now this entire question, response to the information request and what happened to the emails has given new life, really fuel on what had been a flickering fire. I think were now guaranteed that this issue the committee has enough grist to keep it going through the election. Youve been in washington long enough to know theres oftentimes an alleged crime, but then the coverup could become worse, certainly criminally. Is that what were seeing, an alleged coverup that would be a disaster . The irs explanation is there was a computer crash. We dont have any evidence yet to the contrary. We have a lot of suspicious questions that are going to provide fuel to keep this story in the headlines at a time when it seemed to really have been pushed back and receded. If nothing else, what this is going to do is to provide a lot of kind of energy to mobilize the Republican Base through the election and i think that the investigation of the response will increasingly supplant, as you suggest, the investigation of the underlying allegation for the next several months. You can see the anger there. When he grill, like darrell issa grilling the commissioner of the irs, basically accusing this guy, whos been around washington for a long time, in all sorts of positions, of lying, thats pretty powerful stuff. Issas had a very controversial relationship with the administration in general. This is really an indication, wolf, of why these kinds of investigations are such a wild card for politicians. Because they often kind of evolve and even mutate very far from the original target. In this case, were talking about, now, the response, rather than the underlying allegation. We were talking about governor christie, where an investigation into bridge closing lanes has now mutated into something very different. We saw that most famously with bill clinton and the Monica Lewinsky investigation, something completely unrelated. That is the real risk to the politicians. These are wild cards. No one can be sure where theyre going to go or what youll eventually find. Especially if a special counsel is brought in. Once that door opens, you never know where its going to lead. Thats absolutely right. I think these kind of openended investigations were a real kind of part of our politics in the late 90s. The obama first term largely avoided them. Here we are in the second term, were seeing this kind of, you know, scandal de jure and the allegation of scandal becoming a systemic weapon. Quickly, the second Chris Christie bridge investigation is now Going Forward. You read about it in the New York Times today. Big deal, little deal . I think on its own it would not be a big deal but against the backdrop of the other allegations it becomes a bigger deal. In the sense the question is whether it shows, as did the first charges, of closing lanes, by any means necessary attitude of kind of im going to get what i want, no matter what obstacle. People like an effective administrator. They dont like necessary someone who is skirting the law. I think on its own this would be a policy dispute. In the context of whats come before, it is problematic for them. Thanks very much. Still to company, we have an exclusive new report that you will see only on cnn. Our investigation uncovered new allegations that a va hospital may have changed or altered patient records to high just how many veterans died. Simply waiting for care. But up next, the sixterm u. S. 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Switch now and add voice and tv for 34. 90. Comcast business. Built for business. Two political veterans are fighting for survival on a busy primary day here in america. Were highlighting some of the marquee matchups that you should be watching. Taking a closer look at what they mean for november. The midterms and, indeed, beyond. In mississippi, the sixterm republican senatored that cochran facing a tough tea Party Challenge, Senate Senator mcdonnell edged him out in the primary three weeks ago, but neither got the necessary 50 of the vote. The race has been bitter. Its nasty, its expensivexpens. Tons of cash coming into mississippi from outside groups. The other political veteran in the fight for his political life today is democratic congressman Charlie Rangel of new york. Win or lose, rangel says this will be his last campaign. Hes facing state senator espaiot who came within 1,100 votes of defeating rangel two years ago. The Republican Senate primary in oklahoma. The former state speaker t. W. Shannon wins, he will be poised to become the second africanamerican republican senator. Shannon represented James Langford lead a field of seven candidates. Voters are also going to the polls in utah, maryland and south carolina. Lets take a closer look at the runoff in mississippi, after the mudslinging and flood of campaign cash. Its time for voters to have their say. Our chief Congressional Correspondent dana bash reports from jackson, mississippi, on the final push by the candidates. Reporter 36year Senate Veteran flew in a famous establishment republican, john mccain, to help close the deal with mississippi voters. To send thad cochran, a good and decent and honorable servant, back to the senate. Reporter mcdaniel got more votes in the pry merck bimary, the 50 needed to win, sparking the runoff. Tea party groups already invested in mcdaniel as their best hope of defeating a senate gop incumbent redoubled efforts. The resurgence for this country starts right here the in mississippi. Reporter nervous traditional republicans from around the country, trying to beat back the tea party, are here too. The chamber of commerce, airing a hail mary tv ad, with former star quarterback and mississippi native brett favre. Thad cochran always delivers, just like he did during katrina. Reporter a super pac supporting cochran is spending money courting democrats allowed to vote in the gop runoff. Youre not a republican, are you . No, im not. Reporter especially africanamericans, who want to help a republican helping them for years. Jackie brand passed out 5,000 cochran flyers. Traditionally, africanamericans vote a certain party. And we reporter democrat . Democrat, right. And we wanted to raise the awareness to africanamericans that we do have a stake in this runoff election. Reporter mcdaniel argues cochran reaching out to democrats will fire up conservatives against him even more. If senator cochran is going to court liberal democrats to save his seat, it is a clear indication that he has abandoned conservatives in the state of mississippi. Reporter i just talked to Chris Mcdaniel who said the fact youre courting africanamerican democrats or democrats in general is proof youre a liberal, youre not a conservative. Is that right . Well, you know, my responsibility is the United States senator, has been to represent the people of the state of mississippi, not Just One Party or one race. Danas joining us from jackson, mississippi. Also joining us, mark preston, cnn executive editor of politics. Dana, politics may make strange bedfellows. How unusual is it for some democrats to actually be out there campaigning for this longtime republican senator . Very unusual. Look, this is mississippi is a red state, but its also full of democrats would awho are muc more conservative than democrats in other parts of the country. Let me give you an anecdotal update on whats going on with that effort. Where i am right now, this is a polling station in a predominantly Africanamerican Community in jackson, mississippi. Last time around, on the actual primary day, june 3rd, 72 people voted here. Already, were only five hours in, and theyre saying theyve had upwards of 80 people coming in to vote. We talked to a lot of them. Theyre all coming out to say theyre voting for thad cochran because, two reasons, one is they think hes done a good job in mississippi and, two, they simply are very nervous about the alternative and that is Chris Mcdaniel. Its clearly, mark, a race pitting a Tea Party Challenger and a republican establishment sixterm senator right now. So whats at stake for both sides . Well, probably the future of the republican party, certainly in the short term. If wed gone back about two months ago, wolf, the tea party seemed to be against the ropes. They werent winning any of these primaries. They came up lucky two weeks ago when we saw eric cantor lose down in richmond, the House Majority leader prp , in a race none of the Tea Party Groups had anything to do with. They were pinning their hopes on winning tonight with mcdaniel. You have to say the current is going in his direction, especially what happened to cantor a few weeks ago. The tea party has seen a little bit of a resurgence. That gave them a lot of momentum, if you will. Dana, a lot money coming in from outside groups. How expensive has this contest been . Were not going to know that until, you know, all of the books are closed, so to speak, but tens of millions of dollars, easily. What im interested in is going to be how much money those republicans, the national republicans, establishment republicans, are spending to get out the democratic vote. Theyre doing so in a really overt way, spending money in democratic communities to get out a democratic voters. One thing that is really interesting, when you talk about national implications, mark is right, from on the ground here, theyre clearly trying to expand the electorate, to get thad cochran to win, on the cochran side, but theyre also really nervous about the fact that the antiestablishment wave is really strong. But, ill give you one but, wolf, if somehow the cochran people are successful at keeping him in his seat by expanding the base, on the National Level, theyre hoping that this might be a model for how to do that on a National Level because, as you know, republicans in washington understand that this cant just be a party of white men. Theyve got to expand the party and maybe this is the way to try to do it. Quickly, on Charlie Rangel, the longterm democratic congressman from new york city, from harlem. Hes facing the political challenge of his life today. He is. Look, just a few years ago, he was censored by the house, which is terrible for somebody to go through, you know, for misusing his office. Look, the bottom line for Charlie Rangel right now is he barely won in 2012, less than 1,100 votes. Hes facing that Senate Senator, you know, as we speak right now. Polls close at 9 00 in new york. I dont think this is a race that will be called very quickly. Whats interesting is who got behind rangel, governor cuomo, who did not get behind anybody, president obama. Well have extensive live coverage tonight here on cnn, all these key races. Ill be working late tonight, youll be working, dana will be, gloria borger. So stay with cnn throughout the night for extensive coverage of all of these races. Youll learn about the results when we learn about the results. Coming up, how to stem the tide of tens of thousands of young kids crossing the border into the United States alone. Thats the question on capitol hill today. Stay right here for a cnn exclusive. A whistleblower tells cnn in an effort to make their statistics look better the va has been covering up just how many veterans die while theyre waiting for care. We are a collection of smalls. A home saved. A hero homebound for a new opportunity. A kitchen that kick starts careers wells fargo invests in our communities a little differently. Small measures that add up to make our whole even greater. Little by little we can do a lot. Because. Small is huge. Visit www. Wellsfargo. Com to see how big small can be. Welcome back. Im wolf blitzer reporting from washington. This just coming in to cnn. Safety investigators say the action by the pilots caused the deadly crash of aatio the aasia crash last summer. Today saying the flight crew mismanaged the descent on approach to San Francisco international airport. The boeing 777 fell short of its aprop, crashed on the runway. The ntsb also says a pilot accidentally deactivated the automatic air speed control. Says flight crews didnt monitor air speed closely enough and delayed aborting the landing. More startling revelation, uncovered by cnn pointing to another coverup in the ongoing va scandal. Learning the records of dead veterans may have been changed or physically altered to make dead patients look alive and to hide just how many patients died while waiting for care at a phoenix va hospital. Our Senior Investigative correspondent drew griffin has broken the story for all of us. He has new details of the latest developments. Drew, what are you learning . Wolf, these allegations are coming from one of our original sources on this story. The actual keeper of that secret list, pauline dewinter is coming forward now because she believes a coverup is continuing there. Dewinter, a scheduling clerk at the phoenix va, is coming forward, because she believes she knows something that is, frankly, unthinkable. She says someone now is trying to hide the number of u. S. Veterans who died here waiting for care. In seven cases so far where she has determined a veteran on a witting list was, in fact, deceased, she says someone above her has changed the record back. The veteran suddenly listed as alive. Somebody is going on that electronic wait list and where people are identified as being dead, somebody is changing that and saying, no, theyre not dead. Correct. To hide the fact people died on that list . Thats my belief. What would be the any other purpose . There wouldnt be any other purpose. Why . Dewinters says the numbers of dead in this va wait list scandal may be even bigger than first reported. And someone, she says, is trying to cover up the record. And that has been happening fairly recently . Yes. That is a coverup . Yes. Do you feel that the investigators are on to that . Yes. Because you told them . I have surrendered evidence, yes. If there ever was a doubt there was a secret waiting list that the phoenix va, dewinters says shes here to lay those doubts to rest. There simply were not enough doctors, not enough appointments to handle new patients, backlog patients and, yes, very sick patients. Dewent, a scheduling clerk, was making life and death decisions. And that really overtook even the wait list, because now i have a consult or veterans are very sick. So i have to ease up on the wait list it sounds so wrong to say. And work these schedule appointments so at least i felt the sickest of the sick were being treated. And youre making basically those triage decisions . Yes. Wolf, we asked the Veterans Administration directly to respond to the allegations made in this report. They only gave us a generic statement, saying they are working hard to reduce the wait list and try to fix the systemic problems at the va. But apparently this investigation could get very nasty out in phoenix as a coverup may be continuing there. Its hard to believe, drew. Just when you think youve heard it all. More comes out. I suspect were just beginning to hear some of these huge, huge problems. Youre staying on top of this story for our viewers. Yes, absolutely. All right, drew, thanks very much. Thank you for the important work youre doing. Coming up, more from the secretary of state john kerry as he talks about whether the president is really prepared to use military force in iraq. He spoke with our own jim sciutto. Hes also trying to solve the humanitarian crisis. Thats a separate story were watching, about a flood of children crossing the u. S. Border. Lawmakers are hashing out the options. Well have the details. When you run a business, you cant settle for slow. Thats why i always choose the fastest intern. The fastest printer. The fastest lunch. Turkey club. The fastest pencil sharpener. The fastest elevator. 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June 12th, the president said he was appearing with the australian prime minister, that my team is working around the clock on options to respond. During that 12 days since, we calculated, isis has captured an additional 11 cities and towns. A key refinery. Crucial roadways and Border Crossings. Hasnt the delay in the administrations response here on the ground, military action, strengthened isis during that time . I think i think the real question, jim, is not sort of what happened in those days, the question is what can happen Going Forward, a strategy thats really going to work. The reason the president sent me out here is that if he were to make the decision, i mean, he may have to, ultimately, but if he made the decision without trying to see whether or not you can have a government that can work or reconstitute the military, then you have a whole different set options. But you said yesterday the president was prepared to act before there was political compromise. Hes always prepared to act, under any circumstance. He reserves the right to use force, if he has to, thats going to accomplish a goal. But the primary effort is to get the government to form so that you have something backing up what youre doing. So that you have a military here which can be reconstituted. So you have Political Leadership that can pull people together and they will feel invested in their government and prepared to push back. Why did you have a whole, what, six divisions, fold in front of several thousand, you know, terrorist fighters come in . Because they werent invested. Because they cut their own deals. Thats a failure of governance. And if you can reconstitute that government, then you have a strategy that you can begin to implement where a strike might be more successful, may be able to accomplish more. You can actually have a wholistic approach to the solution. I think the president is wise to be thoughtful about that, to measure it, but to reserve the right, if he needs to, to do something, which he does. I just wonder how you feel personally, because more than two years ago, you were advocating for more robust support for moderate rebel groups inside syria. When the president was considering military action in syria, some said you gave the speech of your life, advocating for that action, explaining for it. Of course, it didnt happen. Since then, the war and, again, we have to speak cross border, syria and iraq, has only deteriorated. I wonder if youre personally frustrated to watch that. Lets be crystal clear, jim, the reason that the decision to strike syria didnt happen was because we ultimately came up with a better solution after the president made his decision to strike. Chemical weapons, but that doesnt help those on the ground the purpose of the strike was to send a message to assad, dont use chemical weapons. Not a strike that was calculated to end the regime or to get involved in the war directly. It was to end the use of chemical weapons. Secretary of state speaking with our jim sciutto in iraq today. More of the interview coming up throughout the day today here on cnn. Meanwhile, calls growing louder for the Obama Administration to do something to curb the flow of tens of thousands of undocumented and unaccompanied children crossing the border into the United States. Were going to tell you if any progress was made at a congressional hearing today. When folks think about what they get from alaska, they think salmon and energy. But the energy bp produces up here creates Something Else as well jobs all over america. Engineering and innovation jobs. Advanced Safety Systems technology. Shipping and manufacturing. Across the United States, bp supports more than a quarter million jobs. When we set up operation in one part of the country, people in other parts go to work. 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Lawmakers are trying to find a solution to whats being called a humanitarian crisis. A huge crisis indeed. This year alone, more than 52,000 unaccompanied children across the southwest border into the United States. Now, what to do with them . That was the question on capital hill today. Listen to this exchange between republican congressman mike rogers and the home land security jay johnson. Why arent we putting them on a bus like we normally do and send them back down to guatemala. Because the law requires that i turn it over to hhs. Well, the law requires obamacare to be kicked in two years ago. This is a humanitarian crisis. Lets discuss whats going on. Paula sandoval is joining us. He monitored this hearing. It got pretty tense. It is a humanitarian crisis whats going on. There are separate rules for children who come across the border unaccompanied as opposed to adults. That was a huge talking point that was discussed and that was the process that the kids go through on a daily basis after they are apprehended. After they hit a certain age they fall under the the adult category. They are held as children for 72 hours as the law requires. This is released into several detention facility as cross the country and after that new reports about 85 of them are eventually turned to their parents likely in the United States. In the United States if they are parents are there they can go live in baltimore or cleveland. Separate rules as weve all come to learn for the kids as opposed to kids. The chairman of the house Home Land Security Committee he had new numbers. Huge numbers anticipating what could happen in the coming years. The numbers are showing that its expected to rise up to 90,000 kids by the end of this year. The chairman of the committee, he was very quick to point out that the numbers they are seeing. He was also making it clear that there needs to be a solution here. Right now the states for example, texas which is perhaps the busiest now forking over some major money, 1. 3 million on a regular basis for border authorities to try to tackle this issue. I thought the main datake away s the secretary jay johnson acknowledging that the numbers are growing. Essentially a ticking time bomb about six months ago. Now the numbers have ballooned into a major issue that the administration is trying to especially deal with. I can tell you living along the reporter and reporting, this is nothing new. What is new know is the sheer numbers that are everyoverwhelming the system and costing major money to actually handle. Heart breaking story indeed. These little kids some as yuoun as six, seven, eight years old. They are being sent across the border. They are saying dont run away. Go up there when you see an agent. They will take care of you. Thats huge influx of people coming in. Its a huge story for us. And last point, another take away that i noticed today was they also addressed the cartel issue. Remember, a lot of these children not only the unaccompanied children but also the family units which is basically the adults with their children, they are using smuggling route thats are owned and operated by either the goul cartel or zeta cartel each of these individuals that we see, as potentially a headache for the u. S. Administration, those are big dollar signs for the cartel. So they addressed that as well. Thats also a major concern is how do they keep these organizations from spreading. We will stay on top of the story. Thanks very much. Dont go away. Another news were following, members of the Boko Haram Terror Group attacks a remote vil naj ni village in nigeria. After setting the vil jlage on fire they took 60 captives. Communications in the area have been sabotaged by those insurgents. Well be right back. 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Tell your doctor if you have had tb, hepatitis b, are prone to infections, or have symptoms such as fever, fatigue, cough, or sores. You should not start humira if you have any kind of infection. Make the most of every moment. Ask your dermatologist about humira, today. Clearer skin is possible. Huge excitement in brazil these days. As our neighboring vick valenci. You dont have to go to south america to experience world cup hysteria. Fans gathered to watch the knock out game of the day mexico versus koe acroatia. Theres no question who this crowd wants to win. Whose going to win the world cup . Reporter from the kids to the pets, everyone seems to have a dog in a fight. For instance they are definitely more excitemented about this world cup. Reporter white you might expect mexican fans to be this die hard about their club, the excitement for the 2014 world cup spreads far beyond the traditional fans especially here in the United States. A report 18. 2 Million Viewers watched the u. S. To tie port u l portugal. The heightened interest in the country could have something to do with the u. S. Fielding a teamwork cheering for. The family of u. S. Soccer captain Clint Dempsey not the only ones excited about the teams chances but they certainly have an added incentive. This whole world cup has inawesome because theres been a lot of upsets and surprises. I think they are getting an opportunity to surprise everyone so they are the underdogs but they are going to come out on top. Some worried about not coming out on top, american employ ears who may worry about losing money because workers are watching the games played during business hours. Those still unconvinced of their undying love for the sport still have plenty of time. Three weeks to warm up to the frenzy. You better hurry. This may turn out to be the best world cup of all time. Nisk valence world cup of all time. Nisk valencncivalencia. Thanks very much. Ill be back 5 00 p. M. Eastern in the situation room. Newsroom with Brooke Baldwin starts right now. Wolf blitzer. Thank you so much. As always great to be with you on this tuesday. Im Brooke Baldwin. We begin the hour with this battle between iraqi secure forces and jihadist militants happening here at the countrys largest oil refinery. Its unclear exactly who has control of this strategic control. Iraqs Deputy Oil Minister says Security Forces have it. But several officials tell cnn that militants have seized it. All of this a back drop to u. S. Secretary of state john kerrys mission to help the iraqi goveme