Modified selfquarantine for two weeks. That means hell mostly stay at his home. Hell continually, he says, wear a mask. Also putting himself into quarantine this weekend for 14 days, the head of the cdc, dr. Robert redfield. He, dr. Fauchi and the head of the food and drug administration, dr. Steven hahn, all after coming into contact with people at the white house who learned this week they have tested positive for the coronavirus. Despite this urgent new development that the potentially deadly virus is now detected inside the white house, take a look at this. The president gathered with his top military officials today for a meeting inside the white house cabinet room. A bit more than normal distancing around the table, but no mask worn by any of them, not on the president or any of the generals or admirals. Lets go straight to the white house where Jeremy Diamond is with us three very Important Health officials, their organizations, the top officials in some form quarantining now for 14 days starting immediately. Theres a sense of urgency i assume inside the white house tonight, or is it simply being done out of an abundance of caution in. Reporter well, wolf, that remains to be determined. So far we know these are three top doctors on the Coronavirus Task for who for the next two weeks will be working from home practicing some form of quaranti quarantine. The latest of the three is dr. Anthony fauci. He telling our cnn colleague, jake tapper this evening that he was at low risk regarding contact with a white house staffer who tested positive for coronavirus but will, nonetheless, out of an abundance of caution be undergoing a modified quarantine, meaning that he will be wearing a mask at all times for the next two weeks, largely working from home, perhaps going into his offices at the National Institutes of health wb here he will largely be alone. He did say if called to the white house or capitol hill, he will go but hell take every precaution necessary. Dr. Redfield giving a similar plan, saying he would wear a mass forecast he had to go to the white house are folks. All after katie miller, Vice President mike pences spokeswoman tested positive for the coronavirus. The white house hasnt confirmed she was the one in coon tact wi contact with these three doctors, though we know shes often in contact with the task force as the leading spokesperson for that task force. None of them are experiencing symptoms. Theyve all tested negative for the virus. Steven miller, one of the president s to be aides, who is married to miller, he has tested negative so far. What were seeing is a piecemeal approach. The white house hasnt said whether there was a uniform policy for anyone in contact with katie miller or to the military valet who tested positive a few days ago. The white house began daily coronavirus tests for any officials coming into contact with the president. Its likely because of that policy that they were able to learn yesterday that katie miller tested positive for the virus. The day before she also had a test and she had tested negative. Jeremy, thanks very much. Jeremy diamond is going to be at the white house if more members of the Coronavirus Task force decide they, too, are going to selfquarantine, well report that as well. Were following all these developments very, very closely, Significant Developments indeed. Joining us on the phone dr. Sanjay gupta. First of all, give us your reaction to the news that dr. Fauci is now entering for 14 days what he calls modified isolation. Yeah, modified quarantine. This is in being consistent with the cdc guidelines, which is if youve had this exposure to someone with known covid, with the known infection, that you then based on the level of your contact, and i think theyre calling these low risk but enough of an interaction for these three doctors that they should go into quarantine. I know dr. Fauci is talking about the fact that he may go into his office if no one else is there, wear a mask all the time. The reality is if you look at the guidelines and you understand the thinking behind it, its at this point for the next 14 days, thats sort of the incubation period, the time between someone might be exposed and the time when theyre going to develop symptoms. If they do develop symptoms, its and that time and we know it can happen in a shorter number of days than that as well. But that sort of fits. Im glad they are sort of abiding by the guidelines that these organizations themselves have sat out. This is part of the Contact Tracing quarantining and, as you heard, theyre going to get testing periodically as well. And thursday we heard a navy valet tested positive for the coronavirus and on friday we heard katie miller, the secretary to the Vice President me mike pence, she tested positive as well. Sanjay, youve been doing a lot of reporting on these 15minute quick tests and youve neatoted there are false negatives all the time, right . Yeah. Thats one of the concerns. People ask if youre getting tested all the time, what is the necessity for quarantine . Theres two issues here. One is that youre right, one of these tests, the rapid diagnostic test sometimes studies have shown it can have a false negative rate 15 of the time, which means out of 100 people who are carrying the infection, 15 of them will be told they dont have it when in fact they do. Theyre good tests but theyre into the perfect tests. Thats why the quarantine is still important. As you know, when you get tested for the virus and you get a negative result, that means at that snapshot in time, you are negative. It is possible that you get tested the next day and you are positive. That doesnt necessarily mean in between the two tests you became exposed and tested positive. You still could have been exposed many days earlier and just now the test is turning positive. When you get exexposed, the vir building up to your body, its replicating and when it gets too to a detectable level, thats when the test picks it up. That explains why people could be getting tested and still be in quarantine. Theyve had a known exposure with somebody with the coronavirus. The 14day period is arbitrary. Thats really an important point, sanjay, because katie miller on thursday tested negative. On friday she tested positive, but she could have been contagious, could have potentially passed on the virus even before thursday. Is that right . Thats right. That is absolutely true. In fact, i dont think she has sim tom symptoms, i think she just got tested routinely. But we also know people can be contagious without symptoms. In fact, people tend to be the most contagious before they develop symptoms, if theyre going to develop symptoms. They call that the presymptomatic period. People have more virus in their nose and mouth even before they get sick and they could be shedding that virus into the environment. So for 14 days they may have had contact with whoever the person is. Its probably katie miller because shes with the Coronavirus Task force and all these people are with that same task force. Thats probably what theyre talking about. They would go back and Contact Trace and say when was the last time you had contact . How long was the contact . What was your distance from the person . Sometimes its hard to remember that. With dr. Fauci they deemed it a lowrisk contact. But based on this for 14 days, quarantine is the recommendation so you dont inadvertently spread it to someone else at this point. Thats obviously what theyre trying to avoid. The first an hour or so ago met with the joint chiefs of staff in the cabinet room. Nobody was Wearing Masks as they were sitting around that table. What was also disturbing is he went over to the world war ii memorial to honor the veterans and he walked around with these very distinguished veterans, heros in fighting during world war ii, the president is there with the first lady. Nobody was wearing a mask there either. That was disturbing. And then later the president was asked why he wasnt wearing a mask. These gentlemen were 95 years old, some were 100 years old, potentially significant. Listen to what the president said in explaining why he decided not to wear a mask. I wind was blowing so hard in such a direction that if the plague ever reached them, id be very surprised. It could have reached me, too. You didnt worry about me, you only worried about them and thats okay. We were worried about everybody. What do you think about that explanation . Should others attending that ceremony marking the end of world war ii, should all of them have been wearing a mask . Yeah, i think that if you look at the specific guidance and admittedly, wolf, we are learning all along a bit here. This is clearly a coon tntagiou virus, it is primarily spread through the respiratory droplets which is where the six feet coombs into play here. That is typically how far respiratory droplets will spread. They can spread further if people are coughing or nesneezi. If they are coughing and sneezing they absolutely shouldnt be out in public. I couldnt tell how far he was from the people. If he was far enough away, it would probably be less problematic. Being outside is helpful because its a larger space for the virus to potentially diffuse. Inside is going to be more of a concern. So when you talk about the meetings with the generals in the cabinet room no one wearing a mask, thats concerning. Its concerning we know at this point the virus is in the wuhit house. Its a contagious virus. People are in vulnerable age groups. They should be wearing a mask. I think its a good thing these three doctors are quarantining themselves. Its an example. I think that these conversations about mask, no mask and the testing, i think some of this is going to seem in a few weeks, wolf, trivial. Kind of like when we first started talking about people should be physically distancing j outside, people were reluctant and then a few weeks later it became the norm. You wear a mask so as to not spread the virus, to decrease the likelihood you would spread the virus. The virus is in the white house now. People need to wear mask. We dont have a vaccine. Weve got to do what we know how to do as best as we can do it and wears a mask is part of that. Well look back on this conversation in a few weeks and say i cant even believe we had to have that conversation. Its obvious now. It should be obvious certainly at the white house and everywhere elsewhere the virus could be spreading. Its not just katie miller, the press secretary to the Vice President who now has cornhus r coronavirus. And a valet who served the president also has the coronavirus. One more thing, sanjay. The president earlier tonight met with members of the joint chiefs in the cabinet room over at the white house. There you can see all of them sitting around a table. The secretary was there, steven mnuchin, sitting across from the president. Out of an abundance of caution, should they have been Wearing Masks in the west wing of the white house as well . Yeah, i think so, wolf. I appreciate the fact that theyre trying to keep physical distance, you know, and you remember, wolf, at the beginning when the white house Coronavirus Tasks force briefing began, no one even kept physical distance at that time. And over time you saw this gradual sort of abiding by the recommendatio recommendations. I think were seeing the same thing here. Right now there is a reluctance to wear masks and theyre necessary. It should happen now. This should not be a gradual thing to be clear. I think gradually were going to see that. People who are around the president , the Vice President , everyone in the white house should be Wearing Masks so as to decrease the president. I asked dr. Birx about this, isnt this kind of like you think about the secret service protecting the principals in e white house . The secret service, its obvious what they have to do to protect people. This is something people need to be protected from as well, as best we can. Theres into the a perfect protection. Were dealing with a tiny microbe here, but we have to do the best we can and that involves for the time being wearing a mask. So you can decrease the likelihood youre going to spread it. It may give you some protection from getting it but mostly you wear the cloth masks to decrease your own spread. You dont want to spread anything to the president and Vice President and the top generals in the military. Once again, three top officials on the Coronavirus Task force selfquarantining tonight for 14 days after possible exposure to the coronavirus. Well be right back. Only roomba uses 2 multisurface rubber brushes to clean all your floors. And with patented dirt detect technology, roomba finds dirt throughout your home. If its not from irobot, its not a roomba. Can match the power of energizer. Because energizer ultimate lithium is the longest lasting aa battery in the world. [confetti cannon popping] energizer. Backed by science. Matched by no one. 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You know the white house well. What do you think the president was meeting with the top military brass in the cabinet room, no one, for example, was wearing a mask . Well, wolf, put quite simply, think its gross negligence. The stakes here are just so high, wolf. As you know, white house personnel are deemed essential personnel. That applies as well to members of the joint staff and other cabinet officials. That means their ability to do their jobs, which rests on them staying healthy, is paramount. You really have to ask yourself why the president and his team woo wouldnt take any precaution possible to prioritize the heal of themselves as well as the people around them. Having worked in the white house, i feel this is the tip of the spear in terms of learning about more official who is have to engage in some kind of quarantine. If the president and Vice President themselves were exposed to the virus i worked in a converted closet for years. It likely other officials will have too engage in some form of quarantine. All right, stand by. David axelrod is with us, Gloria Borger is with us, the Public Health ep deem yol skridemiolog us we have dr. Redfield, dr dr. Hahn and now dr. Fauci in some form of selfquarantine because they may have been in contact with two white house officials, who have now been confirmed they have coronavirus. This illustrates how common this virus is becoming and how everyone is at risk of being exposed to this virus. I want to know what the exposure was of these individuals. How much did contact did they have with this person . It sounds like dr. Fauci has a modified quarantine. Id like to know what the coon tact was because there may have been other individuals who had that coon tact as well and there may be more people who have to go through this quarantine. I suspect deborah birx and addiction azhar might have too do the same. What do you say, doctor, should more members go into some form of selfquarantine from a medical perspective . Its unclear how many and what kind of task foorce. We hope that the task foorz wou force would be making the ryeig decisions. The big picture question is presumably the person who exposed all of them is the Vice President s press secretary. And you have to ask, well, if thats the case, then why arent we hearing about what kind of quarantine the Vice President and poe ttentially other people that staff are in. This is a question thats concerning to me. Its concerning to i suspect a lot of people. Gloria, whats your reaction to the news, specific dr. Fauci, who has been the voice, the face to this coronavirus, specifically the quarantine hes going through for 14 days. Reporter i think dr. Fauchi and the others are doing what they have to do to keep themselves safe and keep those around them safe. What this does do is show you that no one is immune and no environment is immune. Here you are in the white house and youve been talking for the past hour about how theres hardly anyone wearing a mask around the president of the United States. The president isnt wearing a mask. I think this is a time in which the president is really trying to make the country feel comfortable with going back to work. He wants to turn the page and talk about going back to work. And now you have this occurring at the white house and real questions are being raised. Has the president been exposed in this way. We know hes tested every day. What will the test tomorrow show . Is the Vice President exposed . And why arent they Wearing Masks . We see that has not been followed. What follows instead is a kind of chaos inside the white house with staffers unfortunately into the knowing whether they should be in work on monday or whether they should stay home or what the protocol should be really, wolf. Thats a critically important point, too. David axelrod, you spent a lot of time in the west wing. People think the west wing in the white house must be a huge place. This is a pretty small area were dealing with right now, especially when youre talking about infections. It p its potentially very, very problematic. Youre quite right, wolf. People dont realize just how small it is. There was that show the west wing and you have this idea its this big space. But theres such little space and youre constantly brushing past people. It is concerning this whole issue of wearing a mask, the president reportedly told his aides he didnt want to wear a mask because he thought hed look ridiculous. How ridiculous would it be if by refusing to wear masks some of the most important Decision Makers in our government were exposed to have environment and taken out of the picture. I admire dr. Fauci and others for practicing what they preach and showing people what you need to do. This underscores to the country what this will be. What about the average business trying to reopen now . So there are a lot of lessons in this episode. And another issue, doctor, is the president of the United States, hes 73 years old, dr. Fauchi is 79 years old. So you hear people who are in their 70s right now, potentially theyre at greater danger than those in their 30s, right . Right. People in that age group we want to monitor and they have a very low threshold. You see people end up in the icu. Thats the group were really worried about. This is the group were trying to cocoon. Its really important that those individuals, even when we get further into this pandemic stage that they continue to social distance and be very mindful of contact. They could get in trouble very quickly. Everybody stand by. Were following the dramatic breaking news thats unfolding now. Well be back. Much more right after in. You st, as you stay in. Because now more than ever, home is where the heart is. Cvs health. 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Three members of the white house Coronavirus Task force now going into various forms of selfquarantine for 14 days after potentially coming into contact with at least one, maybe two officials who have not tested positive to the coronavirus, including dr. Fauci. Right now i want to go to arkansas, one of the few states that did not implement a former stayathome order. He has been ordering reopening measures for a week now. He announced yesterday pools, beaches, water parks will reopen with certain restrictions, all that on may 22nd. On monday restaurants will reopen with limited capacity. Governor, thanks so much for joining us. I want to get to your experience whats going on in arkansas. Whats your reaction to the bre breaking news these top experts are now in quarantine for 14 days . Its good to be with you, wolf. What weve learned from whats going on at the white house is this should not be considered a surprise. We recognized from day one here in my office that if there was a positive test, we could have to selfquarantine, well have to take the measures that are necessary to follow cdc guidelines. Withine busyness of the white house, it cant be a surprise. Its an opportunity for america to see you can continue to do business and take the proper safety precautions. Whether youre talking about a Meat Processing plant or youre talking about any business or a school or the white house or the governors office, this can happen and we cant shut down government, we cant shut down business. So this is a teaching moment and something im sure the white house has planned for because it cant be considered a surprise. I think dr. Fauci, i trust their judgment. I think theyre doing the right thing and i think that youll see business to continue, whether its remotely, whether its by video camera or whether its in person with the right protective measures in place. Having said that, governor, you and i have known each other for a long time. Wouldnt it be prudent at least to err on the side of caution when the president meets with members of the joint chiefs of staff as he did a couple of hours ago, all of them to be wearing a mask and sending the message to the American Public its better to be safe than sorry . They have to make their judgment. I do think its important. We try to set an example by my leadership if you cant socially distance, itwear a mask. Ive made it clear ill wear a mask when im out in public. Ive had my photograph. I crossed that bridge a long time ago. Ive been on the front page of the paper with a mask on. So you get over it. Its important for arkansas citizens to take it seriously. I think youll continue to see continued social distancing in the white house, and i suspect there will be a lot more mask wearing going on in the future. I suspect youre right. To er caution. Lets talk about arkansas. Right now the white house said the benchmark was 14 days of declining cases. Polling nationwide shows the majority of americans are still nervous, afraid states may be rye op opening to soon. What do your fellow citizens in arkansas about beginning to reopen . Like anything, theres a divided opinion. Let me emphasize we met the criteria for phase one. We had 14 days of declining cases and also declining positivity in our cases. We have adequate hospital space. So we met the criteria for phase one. Now were trying to get to phase two. Ive told them from the very beginning theres going to be ups and downs, theres going to be some spikes. You work through those. And right now weve got concern in youre prisons. Weve had the spread of covid19 in both the federal prison and state prison. But you manage through it, you emphasize the Contact Tracing that were becoming more capable in. This month were going to do 60,000 tests in arkansas, which is 2 of our population in one month. So were going too open up gradually and do business just like you mentioned, but were doing it may 22nd for some of our swimming pools. Were doing it in our restaurants, all gradually done with restrekss restrictions so that we can measure and also make sure we keep safe. Im proud of arkansas for following the social distancing guidelines with a few exception. They need to do this. Theyre embracing it as well as the wearing of masks. I think were going in the right direction but theres going to be some ups and downs we have to work through. You have to be prudent. Good luck to you governor. These are sensitive moments as we all know. Thanks, wolf. Good to be a with you. Were going to get back to the stunning news out of washington, a possible exposure that and muff more coming up here in the situation room. And with patented dirt detect technology, roomba finds dirt throughout your home. If its not from irobot, its not a roomba. 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It tells me that the president wants to sell the country that were getting through this and were in the next phase of this. Sometimes i had the feeling that the president wanted to quarantine dr. Fauci on the other side because theyve been bothersome to him lately. Theyve been honest about the country, what the virus entails. As you know, the cdc guidelines have been held up by the white house to state and local governments. I think the president has made a decision that he wants to will this to be over and to signal that we are moving into a different phase. I think thats dangerous. The best politics is to follow the scientists and i know you havent done a lot of reporting on this as well. Whats wrong with going out there and showing the American Public its a. Nothing. I mean, theres been a lot of reporting which shows that the president feels he would look silly and that he doesnt want to do that. Remember at the beginning of the outbreak he was asked would you wear a mask . And he said, no, because im going to meet with world leaders, et cetera, et cetera. Theres been a few people at the white house Wearing Masks. But the example is set at the top, including the white house. If the president were to walk in wearing a mask, i gharibity you the people around him would be wearing a mask. So. Were on to chapter two now. Were done with phase one, were done with all the tough stuff and the country will go back to normal. Wearing a face mask just doesnt fit that narrative to him. So he doesnt want to do it. Last night the bres conference he said was an absolute chaotic disaster. There were a few hundred people on that call. I assume he believed those words would get out. Actually, there were 3,000 people on the call. This wasnt his first rodeo. Im sure he knew with 3,000 people on the call, those words would get out. I think he expressed what many have in concern of how this has been handled. You know, everybody shares the goal, the aspiration to get people out of work. The reality is if we do it wrong, its only going to prolong the misery, pro lock the theres no doubt he expressed what he believes in and he knew it would get out on this and other subjects. This was a call of his former staffers and administration people, and it was a call to arms essentially too tell them goo go. He was exorting them and using examples as to why and i assume well be hearing more of that. I assume we will. Well continue this conversation down the road. We have to take a quick break. Lets continue the situation room right after this. Great tasting ensure with 9 grams of protein, 27 vitamins and minerals, and nutrients to support immune health. Its a great escape. So many Great Stories from amazing people. It makes me want to be better. It changes your perspective. It makes you a different person. See what listening to audible can do for you. Go to the pharmacy counter for powerful. 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