Unarmed black man pinned down by police for 8 46, suffering, dying while the officer brazenly had his hands in his pocket with a knee on floyds neck. Leading up to the death of george floyd, there have been so many others. Michael brown, eric garner, and just recently, Ahmaud Arbery and breonna taylor. As tom foreman shows us, helped bring this country to this boiling point. Reporter back up from that terrible moment when ahmaud arrest berry was chased down shot to death jogging in georgia, note the claims of innocence for lawyers for the accused father and sob, and then think about the third accused man. William bryan whose lawyer also says hes innocent. That he was on his porch, saw two men in a truck he recognized, chasing someone he did not, and followed them, taking video of the incident. He does, with all due respect, what any patriotic american citizen would have done under the same circumstances. Now listen to another take. If arbery had been white, that man youre talking about would have been out there to find out why they were chasing him. Thats jane elliott. An educator and activist who has done a lot of work on the subject of unconscious, or as researchers call it, implicit bias. So as the attorney christopher bridges. It is not a way of calling people racist. It is a way of acknowledging that everybody has biases that have been earned or conditioned upon us and function without our conscious awareness. An example, a black boy and girl, and a white girl and boy are busy at a table. Teachers are asked to assess their nearly identical behaviors and time and again, the black boy is determined to be a challenge. Why . Our whole society is steeped in the ideas, kids like him are trouble. It is unavoidable to have implicit bias. It is way worse than some of the other biases we may have. Take those ingrained attitudes into adult life and you get those who dont think theyre racist. A bird watcher asking her to leash her dog only to be met with fury and a call to police. There was an africanamerican man in central park. He is recording me and threatening myself and my dog. A woman campaigning door to door for public office. Only to have the Police Called on her, too. I felt so degraded. I felt so humiliated. And when police arrived, studies have shown they are much more likely to act with violence if they encounter an africanamerican man, even unarmed. So much so, a study last year found the average black man has about a 1 in 1,000 chance being killed by police over his lifetime. More than double the risk to a white man. They are more likely to kill a black person than a white person because they have been taught for over 500 years that white people are superior to all others. It shows that africanamericans commit crimes at a higher rate but skeptics ask, how can we trust those stats if ill police it bias is constantly steering everyone to look for Crimes Involving black people. Remember in the arbery case, a suspect initially. They saw him poking around a house under construction. An investigator said the accused shooter. He had a gut feeling that mr. Arbery may have been responsible for thefts. Even though a Security Camera caught white people looking around the same building. In manager, implicit biases with an incredible disparity the way africanamericans and people of color live and experience their daily lives. The Fatal Police Shooting thissee of breonna taylor, unarmed in her own apartment in kentucky is boiling with allegations of bias. And the Lieutenant Governor is calling for implicit bias education in schools, hoping what is learned can be unlearned. Experts are hopeful. Absolutely. Anything you create, you can destroy. We can destroy racism. These times of biases can affect our views of all sorts of things about, age and religion and where youre from, even maybe what you wear. Right now the big debate is how do we grapple with the sort of gray thinking when it comes down to black and white in tom foreman, cnn, washington. And borrowing the words of civil rights leader, people are sick and tired of being sick and tired. To help us understand the unconscious bias we all either encounter or have, with me now, the Vice President of inclusion strategy at netflix and the author of what if i stay wrong thing in also with us, dr. Robin deangelo, author of the new york time best seller, white fragility. Why it is so hard for white people to talk about racism. Thank you for being with us. Yu first. Explain for people in the simplest materials, what is unconscious, implicit bias . It is bias that everyone absorbs by living in a culture where were constantly given different messages about different people. It is unavoidable. We all have unconscious prejudices or bias. Unfortunately, weve been taught that it is bad to have those things, and that has us defending and protecting and denying that we have them, rather than taking that deep look that would help challenge it. I want to make a really important point. While implicit bias and racism are connected, theyre not the same thing. Racism is what happens when you take one groups collective racial bias and you back it with Legal Authority and institutional control. Then it is transformed into a system. Because theres so much in the groups of people that are controlling that system that it gets embedded in everything. And thats why black people can have an implicit automatic bias toward me because im white. But i dont live in a world in which i have to worry about that because the impact of my bias on they will, when it is backed by every institution including the police, is so profoundly different. Rene meyers, youre on the phone with us. We were hoping to see you but technology, that kind of to do in the way. But your voice is really valued here. You say one of the first things dealing with bias is to get out of denial. You say we all have biases. How do we get out of denial . Hi, thank you so much for having this program. I think it is extremely important at this time. I think that denial the most important thing for us to focus on. So often because we are good people, we want people to believe that about us. And the problem with being in denial of racism and our bias is that were standing in the way of becoming the people that we want to be. So what were really asking people to do is to do the hard work of looking at yourself, looking at the way that youve been brought up, your history, your community, your friends, and to notice what is so difficult to admit, which is that you may have been placed not on your own but as a result of systems, as robin. In a position of being considered better than. Having the benefit of the doubt. Having your hard work assisted by the assumption that youre smart, that youre moral, that youre more capable than others. So it is hard to hear that and to see that and to believe it. Once you are willing to look at it and bring some courage to it, then youre in a position to change those biases. Because it is so hard to, a, admit, and it is hard for a lot of people to talk about, heres an example, perhaps. Listen to what happened when one of our reporters, a white woman, asked a young black woman about unconscious bias. Any that she may have experienced. This was the outcome. Ill be honest, as a white woman, for to you ask me a question like that, it is a bit offensive. My whole life in this black body has been biased by people who look like you. The earliest experience i ever had with racism, i was 6 years old. So robin, that underscores. Because it is difficult to talk about, how do you start the conversation . Well, it doesnt have to be difficult to talk about. We have to get past this idea that somehow that makes us bad. And then we end up putting all our energy into defending our moral character. As long as we think that something is unavoidable for us to absorb makes us moral, well put all our energy into defending our moral character. Start from the premise that of course youve internalized biases and stereo times. You spent your lifetime absorbing messages, movies, television, your heroes, your heroin heroines. It is understood, everyone understands its better to be white in this society. Nobody misses the message. I didnt choose that message but i did get it and it does come out in my life. So just let go of guilt and that kind of thing and then get to work trying to identify your biases. The nature of an assumption you is dont know youre making it. You wont be able to do it on your own. If someone is willing to risk you getting defensive with them and point out something, be appreciative. Do you want to carry on making mistakes you dont know youre making but people are afraid to tell you because youll laugh at them in. You say be appreciative. Youve written it in your book, white fragility. It very uncomfortable. A lot of people dont want to make that admission and it is because they dont want to feel bad about themselves. Were back to, its not your fault. It is really liberating to let go of that and to say of course it is inevitable that ive absorbed these biases. If i want to feel good about myself, then im actively working to challenge them. Putting my head in the sand, i would understand how that would make me feel better than working hard to be a better person, if you will. And as we continue to look at pictures across the country, this is in portland, oregon, in your book, you say, what if i say the wrong thing . You say you have to go. There be uncomfortable. Face the fear that actually shapes your bias. Absolutely. You wont be comfortable before youre uncomfortable, right in so thats a piece of information that you take into the conversation. I think what you also do is that you decide what youre going to go looking for your biases. So this is like, being very proactive. And there are ways that you can tart to see it show up once you start looking for it. Give me an example. Well, you can look at the number of people in your circle and see how many people, like if were talking about the work place, for example, and you can say, who do i hang out with . Who do i talk to . Is it a very monocultural system . When i think of who i hire, who i promoted in the last year. It is important for bias not to just look at one incident but to look over a time to see if you can see a pattern. Often what you will realize, im hiring, by far one of the most difficult biases to see thats the kind of bias where you are basically replicating yourself. Right . So thats how racism continues to get embedded. Were going to leave it there. Thank you so much as we continue to look at these pictures out of los angeles. People gathering. It is a universal issue that were all talking about. Were all vulnerable to it. Still ahead, real life issues of unconscious bias, including one of my colleagues runin with police. I had a very high executive tell me i was very articulate. That i spoke very well. I was drug tested once and i was high every day. And teachers knew, faculty knew, and my parents and myself and friends knew. But given the fact that i was white, they were like, lets give him a chance. I was looking for housing and they said they didnt have any more housing. Another female came in and they gave the housing to that person because the property was still open. First up is this exquisite bowl of french onion dip. Im going to start the bidding at 5. Thank you, sir. Looking for 6. 6 over there do i hear 7 . 7 in the front 7 going once. 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Every time you walk into an elevator, you walk into a building, every time you inact with the public, you have this extra anxiety that somebody will see you as a threat. And it is this weird thing because somehow my skin makes me threatening, but actually i experience the world as a very threatening place. Im the one more likely to be accused of shoplifting or arrested, beaten. Im the one actually in danger and it is such a mind trip to be the person who is going about your day, threatening no one, under threat, but seen as a threat. Anna, hopefully you can hear me. I understand we may have some audio problems. I can. Good. So what are the biases that you have learned to kind of steel yourself against . You know, i grew up, i settled and came to mal. When cuban Americans First came here in 1960, there were signs all over the place that said no blacks, no dogs, no cubans. By the time i came here in 1980, grew up here in 1990, the 2000s, the latins were in congress, they were, governors, they were in charge of financial institutions. So i live in this little bubble in miami where we havent yet read the memo in our in box informing us that we are a minority in america. It wasnt until i hit the National Stage that i started getting just a thunderbolt of it. I got so much social media back lash that people who like me will talk to me by my sexy la tina accent. People who hate me tell me to eat another burrito and go back to mexico. By the way, im not from mexico. Im from nicaragua. But it turns out, theres more than one country in latin manager. And how do i steal myself to it . It used to get to me. One day, i turned off a lightswitch and they can insult me any way they want. They can say anything they want. It did not ding my skin. I am american. No matter what they say, no matter who likes it or who sems it or not. With exactly the same rights. The goal sometimes is to distract you. To throw you off course. So to speak, ana. So has anything changed for you in reason years besides your resolve, the way in which you address it when it comes . You know, i see things that i didnt see before. I see privilege. I see people behaving in ways that it would not occur to me to behave because i dont think i could get away with it. And i check myself. I know people always say, some of my best friends are black. In my case, some of my friends are black. And because of that, i really try to check myself a lot. Because how many times have i been in a place where somebody cracks a joke, how many times have i heard somebody from latin america Say Something like, oh, in cuba, there was no racism because black people knew their place and i dont correct it or call it out as racism. So i see things now. The reason im able to hear things differently and see things differently is because i have the benefit of people like donna brazil in my life. And kendrick in my life and julia in my life who have shared these experiences with me, that are somewhat foreign to me because also, remember, a lot of us latins, a lot of us hispanic immigrants, came here after the civil rights movement. So it is something that you have to learn. Because we didnt live through. And it has made a huge difference in my life. A lot better. Thats fantastic. You turned it around. Keith, race and ethnicity, it is not the only way in which these biases are exhibited. Sexuality, religion, politics. You see it there, too. Thats true. For me, as a black man, a gay man, ive encountered different types of bias and implicit bias. Primarily in two ways, Police Encounters and stores. Stopped by the police one time in the subway in new york city. Accused of jumping the turnstile which i did not do. Then just a week ago i was arrested by the police while covering a protest here in new york city. I think they just made the assumption that i had to be a troublemaker even though i identified myself being with the press. Did i what van said, if im in a drugstore, a department store, there is a tendency for people to think im a shoplifter. Or a tendency to think that i work at that store. I get both of those all the time. So youre constantly selfregulating. Youre watching yourself and your behavior to make sure it fits into a way that doesnt threaten someone. And you have intersectional, black people dont think youll be supportive of the larger cause and from the lgbtq community, they think black people are threatening. So a lot of different layers that are involved in unconscious bias and it affects all of us in many different ways. So often if im in a store and im followed around and i think the Security Guard is puck issing im going to shoplift, then by the time im paying for it, im looking at that Security Guard to help remove the image that he has of me or anyone who looks like me that would shoplift. How about look at me as a person who is paying for their stuff. Seldom do i see that Security Guard at that moment. Or you go to a restaurant, there is a tendency for black people to overtip because theres the idea that black people dont tip. So youre overcompensating. Thank you all. Have a great evening. Thank you. Envelop so when does unconscious bias begin . Ill speak with a group of College Students about their experiences and their own biases. You need a hair smoother. . Get fructis sleek shine with Moroccan Argan Oil hair is super sleek, even in 97 humidity. No parabens. Fructis sleek shine by garnier, naturally for just 100 a month. 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I was an honor student, i got high grades. I was told i must be cheating. All right. Lets get some perspective from our children joining me here. Right now, three College Students, freddy hicks from florida a m university, georgia, and mya brown from my alma mater, by the way. Good to see you. Thanks for joining us. So can you think of a bias that you experience that had really set you back . Really upset you . Yes. I remember when i was 10. I went to a new school. It was a k12 school. Some of the kids had been there for a while and i remember my hair being compared to broom sticks. The kids laughed. And my nickname was keisha. How did that make you feel . Confused. Very confused. How did you handle it . What did you do . I went to my mom. We went to the school administrators. I was talking to my peers and it ended up being something of a fiasco. My mom was in the office all the time, talking to the teachers, the administration at that school throughout my and my sisters time as we del with all kinds of discrimination. Then you feel singled out which makes you insecure. Definitely. One of the biggest gifts, however that came through, has been a selfconfidence and love that i bred for myself. And to have been able to overcome that and speak to others has been really impactful for me. Youre doing a great job right now. Do you see where your biases may have impacted how you make decisions in. I definitely do. Oh, thats mya. Go ahead. I see it in my day to day process. I feel like it was such an ingrained thing in my life that i didnt really notice it until it became overt. That is when i started to play for internships and to be in the rooms where i am the only black person here and then you see nepotism, where my intelligence was being questioned, and thats when it really got to me. Freddy, do you think you remember the first time you may have experienced racial bias and how it might have changed you . Well, i would say around middle school. My teacher kept get megaconfused with at student. I thought it was funny. I didnt understand it. Looking back now, it was really kind of confusing, how it happened multiple times. That was the first time. Jessica, i know you said you in the end, all of this empowered you. Maya and freddie, do you feel like these experiences have in some way empowered you, too . I would say also it did make me insecure. But then luckily, we have this discussion often with my peers and having this discussion made me know that this is not only my experience and also, with being at a school like harvard university, they really build up their black students so we can go into these situations and know and still have our confidence. So true. Freddie . I feel like it empowered me and made me feel ill proud to be black and also, what she said. 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So sarah, what makes this different and how might it impact peoples biases . I think theres a couple of things that make this different. In 2014 i covered the killing of Michael Brown. I covered in tulsa, the shooting of Terrance Crutcher by a police officer. In baltimore, i covered the death of freddy gray at the hands of a police officer. And then of course we have the situation with george floyd. And i think one thing that makes a difference is the length of time that this went on, and that the video shows from the beginning to the ends, there is no question about what happened before or after, because what you see only video for more than seven minutes, for 7 54, is someone who has complete control of a human being, who has his hands behind his back, in hands cuffs, unable to move or do anything. And you watch this unfold minute by minute by minute. You havent had that in any other case that has become a national story. What youve seen is the immediate action at the time, or you didnt see what happened during the time. You just heard stories of what happened. So in this particular instance, you are seeing from beginning to ends. It didnt matter at one point whether or not george floyd was resisting arrest or not. Because he was already hand cuffed. And the whole time he has a knee pressed down on his neck. You are watching a man lose his breath and eventually lose his life and theres no question about it. You cant deny it. A lot of times, people have wanted to find excuses. Sometimes police have a reason for doing something but it cannot be disputed. It is he said, she said, and people tend to side with those who are professionals. They know what theyre supposed to be doing. But so many times, people have said thats not what happened and there is no proof. To be fair in the criminal justice system, juries tend to side with police officers. Its a proven fact. In this case, when you look at the totality of just that eight or nineminute video, what you see on that video cannot be denied. So i think thats what changed so many peoples minds. It was so painful to watch that. So disturbing from a human an standpoint to watch that. That when any human being watched it, from a child to an 80yearold person. You cannot deny that there was inhumanity there and he was losing his life in front of your eyes for no reason. And no one can figure out what the reason was. He certainly was not resisting. It is and more than insinuation. People can see bias in the demeanor of the officer who is so cool and cavalier with the hands in the pocket, while someone is losing their life you understand his knee. Ryan, while youve certainly covered a lot of stories, that put the magnifying glass on bias, the last thing you thought, while youre covering a story, you would be subject of bias. Tell me about this story where you called for police because someone you thought was intimidating your live shot, only to be looked at as the suspect yourself. Yes. Sarah and i have covered all these cases. A lot of times were talking to police officers. They tell you, they want to be on the side of whats right. And one of the situations you always sort of figure out here, people say you cant prove things. They just happen. We were covering the hurricane and i was getting ready for a live shot with anderson. All of a sudden, we had a man who came up and started accosting us. As i was talking to him, he decided to spit in my direction and called me the n word. When we called the Police Department for help, what ended up happening to us, is one of those things you cant explain. The officers arrived. Even though i was wearing a cnn jack. They thought i was the person the producers were calling to get help from. In fact, they called for backup. They realized it was the other gentleman that needed to be arrested. We deal with these things and my producer and my photographers were quite shocked. I never really talked about it. It is a difficult job to do. When you get pulled over, when you have these instances, youre out in the community, people have these complaints all the time. They want us to do something about it. Without video like we saw, you would not see the people from the Community Coming forward to support this. So something we always deal with. You have to prove it. Thats how cell phones have really changed things. They have indeed. To your point, you didnt tell anybody about it. I really put you on the spot about it and sadly, youve encountered it so often, you did put it aside. Sadly, youre used to it and thats what biases are all about. Thank you both so much. Appreciate it. Protesters have been out on the streets for now 13 days. Their pain is palpable. Coming up, how we can channel that pain into progress. 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Mayorelect, we will be hanging on every word since we cant see you particularly. But what is the relationship like in your view in ferguson between police and the community right now . I know you are new to the job, but what are you saying . Right now the ferguson Police Department, they are working diligently to communicate with the youth and the people of ferguson. At this time, they have started different functions with the youth. They are communicating with the people, so the relationship is getting better. Captain johnson, people became very familiar with you and your approach. You literally were putting your arms around people trying to bridge that divide between the community and ferguson and police. But not all Police Departments have the capacity to approach situations like that. Or in your view, should they all have the capacity to do that . They should all have the capacity. And i believe they all do. It is tough. I always say its going up to the porch and someone says, dont go through my gate, but you keep knocking at that gate until someone lets you in and you begin to have that conversation. Mayorelect, biases, were talking about that, how judgments really color peoples actions. How are you hoping to convey to that community that people need to approach their fears, leave their comfort zones, try to stamp out or correct whatever biases they have . Well, we got to have courageous conversations. And once we sit down and Start Talking to each other and find common ground, thats the only way people can get over their biases. They must sit down and talk and realize just because the color of my skin is different than yours, we all breathe the same air. And once people understand that and understand that its okay to disagree, then and then you can start moving Forward Together to mend some of the hurt and the biases. And captain johnson, i know it is a simplistic question and the answer is not simple, but how do you remove the most poisonous of biases within the Police Department . You have that impactful conversation, that conversation that talks about implicit biases. You know, i always say that the first thing that has to happen in law enforcement, there has to be acknowledgment of the existence of a culture that has social racism. It exists. And that it impacts africanamericans. It takes aways freedoms, liberties and life. I think you have to acknowledge the existence. Until you do that, you cannot even have the conversation. You heard one of the secretaries of the Trump Administration say today there is no systemic racism in law enforcement. What do you say to him . Well, i say the next thing i would say is that america has to acknowledge the existence of social racism in america. Thats beyond policing. So there is a lot of issues that we have to address as a country, and id say that Everybody Needs to get to the table. Some people say it takes White America to fix it. Well, it takes all of us to fix it. It has to be a joint conversation with africanamericans at the table. There is a group in north carolina, a group of gang members in a group called true colors. The impact is not about the word gang, but we focus on the word leader and that that leader has the chance to influence and create a positive change. Even africanamerican men that have been gang members or former gang members need to have a seat at the table so everybody has a seat at the table and understands what our problems are and thats where this impactful conversation comes in. Captain ron johnson, mayorelect ella jones, thank you for joining us. Thank you. All right. So this has been a tumultuous two weeks from shocking, reaffirming, confusing, comforting, disheartening giving rise to greater determination to keep fighting for right. And in this fight, a diverse tapestry of people on one accord globally. End racism, end injustices. Black lives matter. Right not dictated by political leanings, but whats right on basic human kindness and decency levels. Along the way in the spirit of eric garner, brianna taylor, Michael Brown and george floyd, we have seen these things, heard things stirring all of our emotions, bringing us to ask, where are we and how is this and how can this be . Behaviors, biases, travesties and obstacles going back 400 plus years in america. So wouldnt it be something if where we are right now, if we are on the place of what Frederick Douglas said is needed to right the wrongs. He said it is not light that we need, but fire. It is not the gentle shower but thunder. We need the storm, the whirlwind and the earthquake. 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