Transcripts For CNNW State Of The Union With Jake Tapper 20180930

What is he afraid of . Democrats get the fbi investigation theyve been demanding. Who might the fbi interview . What might they mind . Amy klobuchar just moments away. And a National Debate playing out in congress. Youre telling me that my assault doesnt matter this is hell. How will the passions impact the midterms, now just five weeks away . Hello, im jake tapper in washington, where the state of our union is searching for answers. Judge kavanaugh and Christine Blasey ford are convinced they are telling the truth, but both cannot be 100 accurate, and now the fbi has until the end of the week to investigate per the Senate Judiciary committee. The fbi is reaching out to witnesses and intends to interview mark judge, who ford said was in the room when kavanaugh allegedly assaulted her. The probe comes after allegations made by three women, ford, zebdeborah ramirez and ju swetnick. Saturday, prucesident trump sai the fbi has free reign to investigate judge kavanaugh, but he also cast the confirmation fight as part of a larger battle. A vote for judge kavanaugh is also a vote to reject the ruthless and outrageous tactics of the democrat party, mean obstructionists, mean resistance. For the last 18 months, democrats have spent every minute trying to overturn the results of the last election. Joining me now is counselor to President Trump, Kellyanne Conway. Thank you so much for being here. Thank you, jake. Theres a lot of questions about what the fbi has been instructed to look into. The senate has asked them to look into, quote, current credible allegations. Thats kind of vague, or at least subjective. The president has said that the fbi has free rein. What direction has the white house, whether its white House Counsel don mcgann or someone else, given the fbi . What are the contours of this investigation . As you know, it will be limited in scope. Its meant to last for one week, i believe, beginning last friday. Its not meant to be a fishing expedition. The fbi is not tasked with doing that here. As joe biden pointed out 27 years ago during the Clarence Thomas hearings, and as many people have pointed out in the last couple of weeks, jake, the fbi does not draw conclusions. It provides information. Judge kavanaugh has gone through six thorough vets within the span of his Public Service career, including one completed this last july. That is on the desk of every single senator to review. Fbi tests generally look at actions that a person has taken after they turn 18, though, and these allegations were when he was 17. Has the fbi been told dont look into Julie Swetnicks allegations . We dont find them credible . The white house is not getting involved in fbi investigation that way. The president very much respects the independence of the fbi and feels as he said last night, that they should look at anything that is credible within the limited scope. What does that mean . Im not involved in those specific conversations. Did don mcgamn say you can interview these witnesses but not these witnesses . I dont think he would do that. But ive not talked to him about it. Were not trying to interfere. Its the president say going ahead. And its also the republican senators, as you saw, including senator flake and others who have said please go forward with this fbi investigation. Their incentive may be a little bit different than the democrats on the Judiciary Committee, who have been screaming and frothing for over a week talking about we immediate an fbi investigation. Is one single vote going to be changed . These democrats said its possible actually. Lets hope so. Joe manchin. He hasnt been on the Senate Judiciary committee. Those who have been saying, if only there had been an fbi investigation. Okay, here it is. At least four senators are up in the air, collins, murkowski, manchin and heitcampf. So you said that don mcgann has not said interview these witnesses, dont interview these witnesses. Is the fbi permitted to look into the testimony judge kavanaugh gave . Some democrats think he wasnt honest under oath about the extent of his drinking, other parts of his testimony if the fbi finds that he gave answers under oath that were less than forthcoming, is that part of this . We trust the hardworking men and women of the fbi to do their jobs in this case, jake, and they will determine what is what can be included within that scope. Let me go back to something you said. Well remind the viewers politely that senators manchin heitkampf and donnelly did vote for gorsuch. And theyre running for reelection. That is relevant. If they want to listen to the voters within their own states they will see that the voters do want a Supreme Court justice confirmed sooner rather than later. Those who were saying fbi investigation, fbi investigation, that was the most common thing, not cory booker, who talked about me, myself and i, apparently his three favorite people. And now hes bhotherring elizabeth warren, because i want to take a listen to what the president had to say about Christine Blaseyford. I thought her testimony was very compelling. And she looks like a very fine woman to me. Very fine woman. Certainly she was a very credible witness. Compelling testimony, fine woman, credible witness. Not what you expecting, disappointing to many in the main stream media. I dont have an opinion one way or the other. Brett kavanaugh who has said under oath thats not exactly accurate. Kavanaugh has said that under oath kavanaugh said it doesnt happen. Judge said he never saw kavanaugh act that way and doesnt remember it. The other two, pj smith and Leland Keyser say they have no memory of it. Thats not the same thing as said it didnt happen. Theyre not corroborating it. It is the same thing as not being able to corroborate it. Judge kavanaugh said under oath they denied it, refuted it. They didnt all four deny it. Two of them said they have no memory of it. Which means they cant confirm it, jake. Lets not parse words. Because they cant remember it also means they havent confirmed it. Thats not the same thing. I have been first among equals in giving this woman the respect and deference, saying dont ignore her, dont insult her. Lets have her be heard. The Senate Republicans on the Judicial Committee gave her her voice. They let her come to washington to testify. If it werent for the democrat who sat on that information, sat on in letter. Theyre the ones who made her a household name. Theyre the ones who caused her in front of the whole world to become a household name and be recognizable now. Even to people who support her, her life will never be the same. Does President Trump believe her . He found her testimony to be credible and compelling. Judge kavanaugh said something under oath, they both could be right, that something truly awful happened to her in the summer of 1982, fwi someone, somehow, somewhere, and judge kavanaugh was not involved. Its certainly possible that her memory is faulty. Its also possible that his memory is faulty. Do you believe that somebody who drinks a lot has never, ever had a memory loss the next day, not even a short one. Youre asking me a general question about drinking and blacking out. Yes. You want me to ascribe it to judge kavanaugh. No. Generally, sure. As goes to judge kavanaugh, he testified under oath he doesnt recall ever blacking out or drinking to excess. You can go back and pull his testimony. Thats not what this is about. You know thats not what this is about. Excuse me. Lets go back to the beginning. We are losing sight of what this is and what this is not. About whether or not he committed a crime, right . No, its not whether he committed a crime. Thats false. Nobody has file aid crime in montgomery county. Rachel mitchell, whom the republicans brought in, sex crimes prosecutor from arizona, told the senators its been reporting, by cnn and others i hope if this were a court of law, you couldnt prosecute this. No one is being accused of a crime. It is relevant whether hes telling the truth. Its also not a meeting of the me too movement. Were having a watershed moment in this country. Great. I hardly see cnn doing town halls with victims of rape and Sexual Assault and Sexual Harassment. Sort of like, here it is. We plop it and we move on. Weve done a town hall on Sexual Assault and Sexual Harassment. Thats not what this proceeding is about. A classmate from judge kavanaugh at yale. Take a listen. There had to be a number of nights where he does not remember. In fact, i was witness to the night that he got tapped into that fraternity and he was stumbling drunk in a ridiculous costume saying really dumb things, and i can almost guarantee that theres no way that he remembers that night. Do you have any concerns of judge kavanaugh, asserting even though he has been a heavy drinker at high school and college at times, his assertion that he has never, ever had any memory loss the next day . Do you have any concerns that thats not true . Jake, i didnt go to college with him. This is what he said under oath. But that woman that would not be admissible. Is a republican and she says she doesnt believe him. She doesnt believe him. And many people do, including the 100 women who still stand with him, many of whom didnt vote for President Trump, who nominated Brett Kavanaugh, a number of whom are frankly are democrats and have been writing opeds, giving sworn testimony. Why doesnt that matter to anybody . Not a single parent whose young daughters judge kavanaugh has coached in basketball has come forward and said i now have second thoughts. We can cherry pick peoples comments all day long. I was waiting to come on and interview you this morning, i was looking over the shoulder of one of your researchers who had a very rough tweet up about basically someone trying to recount for dr. Ford that they had done together, threatening her on twitter. Youll always find somebody trying to impugn the integrity of kavanaugh or ford. Thats not what this is about. Its about whether or not this man, with his impeccable judicial is qualified to be on the United States Supreme Court. What you saw the other day, even though a lot of it was a national disgrace, what you saw the other day was a Senate Judicial confirmation hearing. Its not a court of law proceeding or a meeting of the me too movement. I feel very empathetic frankly for victims of Sexual Assault and sexual harass mend and rape. Im a victim of Sexual Assault. I dont expect judge kavanaugh or jake tapper or jeff flake or anybody to be held responsible for that. You have to be responsible for your own conduct. This is not bill cosby. Those comparisons on your network are a disgrace and the anchor should have called them out. This is not even bill clinton. Senate Judiciary Committee members refused to remove bill clinton from office after he had oral sex in the oval office. And lied about it to a grand jury as president of the United States. The hypocrisy is ridiculous. If not one Senate Member changes their vote because of what they learn from the fbi investigation, that tells you all you need to know about what the president and judge kavanaugh have said is a sham. Lets just be honest about what this is about. This is partisan politics. I want those women who were sexually assaulted and confronting jeff flake, god bless them, but go blame the perpetrator. Thats who is responsible for the Sexual Assaults. The people who commit them. This is the first time ive ever heard you talk about something personal like that and im sorry. Ive just had it. Im sorry that you went through this. But you work for a president who says all the women who accused him are lying. There have been a number of people dont conflate that with this and certainly dont conflate it with what happened to me. It would be a huge mistake. Im not conflating it. Lets not always bring trump into everything that happens in this universe. Thats mistake number one. President trump said his personal experiences have formed his view of this. Thats the only reason im bringing that up. He was asked about it. He said yes, it informed how i look at it. Because ive had so many false allegations against me. Thats what he said. As a survivor of this again, im deeply, personally very sorry about whatever pain youve gone through. Thank you. But does that not make you think when you hear somebody like professor ford or other people make allegations, does that not make you think that these women need to be heard and even if there are not corroborating witnesses, absence of evidence. They should all be heard and they should be heard in courts of law and depositions. They should be heard in proceedings. Those who can prosecute, those who have civil and or criminal causes of action should pursue that. But we do treat people differently who are either the victims or perpetrators of this, based on their politics and based on their gender. That is a huge mistake. Dont make the mistake. You want to have the same kind of conversation that you have with your daughter that you have with your son. I want everybody to ask, what do you think of your daughters . How do you talk to your daughters . How do i talk to my almost 14yearold son . How do you talk to him . This is judge kavanaugh now. It could be anybody by next week. Respectfully it could be any man in any position now. What would be the defense . It was 36 years ago. What would be the defense . There was nobody else to corroborate. Not good enough. I was 17. The conversation im having with my son no, thats not the conversation im having with my son. If were going to have a national conversation, stop judging the victims and perpetrators according to their politics, according to their do you think i would work al franken lost his job, Harvey Weinstein lost his job. Lets not compare Harvey Weinstein and bill cosby to whats happened here. Youre saying that society, media or someone is looking at these things through a political lens. Im pointing to i think this week was that way. And it shouldnt be that way. It hasnt been that way in the last year. I dont disagree with you about what youre saying about clinton and his behavior and it shouldnt be a footnote. What about those women . Its not a footnote. There was a huge investigation. Brett kavanaugh worked on that investigation. And he was very strongly of the opinion that bill clinton needed to answer for what he did. Do you know what a liberal democratic woman told me this week who supports Brett Kavanaugh because she worked with him for a long time . She said kellyanne, im so everybody is so emotionally drained or disgusted based on the range of emotions. Or both. Or both. I feel badly for Brett Kavanaugh. I think the democrats could have avoided all of this just by coming forward earlier and asking dr. Ford and or judge kavanaugh in those private phone calls. This woman got a say because of the Republican Party and judge kavanaugh is right, they can vote him down, up or down ultimately, jake, sit on the Supreme Court or not but theyre not going to force him to quit. Let me just say this to you my liberal democratic friends, something i totally agree with and hadnt thought about. She feels so badly for the way she rolled her eyes and treated people like paula jones and juanita roderick. And these people had true claims a and they were dismissed again. I completely agree with you. But we are not now where we were then. Two years ago . Where we were then. And i interviewed Juanita Broderick two years ago. We are not, as a society or as a media where we were two years ago. Let me ask you as a final question you have said that you found her credible, professor blazy ford. I said i found her compelling and im glad she had her voice and i think they could both be right. I think something terrible could have happened to her the same summer we were both 15 and that judge kavanaugh was not involved. I think that is why you have sworn testimony. That is where you have corroborating evidence, if you can find it. And thats why, i suppose, the fbi will continue to investigate. Im a big fan of transparency and accountability. Im happy. Although i think it was torturous for both ford and kavanaugh and people should stop using both of them for their own political gains, may i say. Im happy if they were willing to do that they came forward and testified under oath. The whole thing has to matter. It has to matter who he has been throughout his life. Hes gone through six fbi vets. People are afraid they wont be able to defend themselves against 36yearold allegations. Thats true. But there are also people who are afraid theyre going to be sexually assaulted. People on twitter are saying how can she work for donald i work for President Trump because hes so good to the women who work for him and hes so good to the women of this country, who are much better off with security and prosperity because of his leadership. So, i dont want to hear it. Preemptive message for the tweeters out there. Kellyanne conway, thank you. Appreciate it. Thank you. It was a jawdropping moment. Kavanaugh questioning senator Amy Klobuchar about her drinking habits. Youre asking about blackout. I dont know. Have you . Could you answer the question, judge . An exclusive with senator Amy Klobuchar minutes away. Stay with us. What if your skin could light up the room . Aveeno® positively radiant sheer daily moisturizer. Lightweight hydration for positively radiant skin that lasts. Aveeno®. Naturally beautiful results®. Money managers are pretty much the same. All but while some push High Commission investment products, Fisher Investments avoids them. 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A book that youre ready to share with the world . Get published now, call for your free publisher kit today youre saying theres a case where you drank so much youve never had a problem remembering what happened or the night before . Youre asking about blackout. Have you . Can you answer the question . Its not happened, is that your answer . Im curious if you have. I have no drinking problem, judge. Nor do i. Thank you. One of the most notable personal moments in a hearing full of high emotion, anger and tears, judge kavanaugh later apologized to senator klobuchar for that interaction, but the exchange have left some to question his temperment for the Supreme Court. Senator, thank you for joining us. Thanks, jake. He apologized for asking you that question. Do you agree with your colleagues the fact that he made that comment, his general tone and tenor demonstrated a lack of judicial temperament . I was stunned about how he acted at that hearing. This is basically a Job Interview for the highest court of the land. All i was trying to get at are some of the issues you were discussing with Kellyanne Conway. And that is that everyone has said that they respected dr. Ford for coming forward, that her testimony was compelling and credible. Both accounts cant be true. And so one idea here is that he simply was drinking more than he was saying over this time period and that he didnt remember what happened. So i was simply trying to get at that and really couching it in the fact that i had alcoholism in my own family. My dad who is 90 now struggled with it throughout his life and finally got treatment and is sober and got help from aa. So i was actually trying to get at the truth. And so thats why i was stunned by how he answered it. But, of course, he later apologized. Do you think that he was telling the truth when he said that he has never had any memory loss after a night of drinking . It doesnt quite make sense to me. First of all, you have these other people from parts of his life who have said that he was belligerent when he was drunk and other things. Now, they have not been interviewed by the fbi. And so that was my hope. When he apologized i said look, i just want to see an fbi investigation here. We know that she passed a polygraph test, which while not admissible in regular court, is used all the time for fbi, for cia, for defense department. And she passed it with flying colors. So these are the things that the fbi could look at if they evaluated the credibility of the witnesses. Are you confident you just heard Kellyanne Conway say the fbi can investigate whatever they want to investigate. Are you confident that the fbi will be able to explore everything they want to, including if they are interested, the Julie Swetnick allegations, including whether or not he was honest to the Senate Judiciary committee about his drinking . Well, based on some of the reports weve seen this weekend im very concerned about this because the white house should not be allowed to micromanage an fbi investigation. She says theyre not. Kellyanne said theyre not. I know and there was one thing she did say and that was that the hardworking men and women of the fbi should be able to do their jobs. On that, i agree. But what we are hearing are reports is that theyre somehow trying to limit this to a few witnesses or tell them what they should do. And while the white house decides who to nominate and that person is submitted to a background check, i never heard the white house, either under this president or another president s, have said you cant interview this person or look at this time period. You could only look at these people from this one side of the street when they were growing up. Thats why we have to allow them to go ahead. Beyond the reports, do you know of evidence that thats the case . Kellyanne conway said thats not the case, that she doesnt think that the white house is telling the fbi dont look into this, dont look into that. Dont interview these witnesses. Exactly. Im basing this on reports and im listening to her interview, which was interesting when she said at the end that victims of Sexual Assault should be able to come forward and have their stories and their claims investigated. And so many people, including senator grassley, the chairman, during the hearing said they respected dr. Ford and talked about how brave she was. What i said at the hearing was if you truly respect her, then you cant just say it. You have to follow up on the evidence. She actually said that she ran into mark judge, the other person she said was in the room, at a safeway but she doesnt know the time period that he worked there and that was one thing that she specifically asked be followed up on. She said he was so uncomfortable when she saw him. He is, of course, a key witness and has not been interviewed by the fbi but, according to reports, they plan to interview him. I just want to see this be conducted in a fair and independent way, which senator flake has asked for. The people who have real leverage on this thing are the three republican senators who are still undecided. They have to make sure this is a credible investigation from beginning to end. You used to be a prosecutor, as you know. As of now, with the evidence that we have, which is no corroborating evidence, no one who was at the marty being able to back this story, which is not a refutation, but also not a corroboration. No idea of when and where this happened. We know that the prosecutor republicans brought in, ms. Mitchell, has said she would not have enough to take this case to even get a search warrant. Do you disagree with that assessment as a former prosecutor . First of all i want to make clear, this is not a criminal trial. Kellyanne and i agree on that. This was a Job Interview. So many of us have already decided because of this nominees expansive view of president ial power that he doesnt belong on this court to be hand picked by a president who has continually undermined the fbi, said he wants to fire everyone from the attorney general to the Deputy Attorney general. We have issues with putting someone on the bench with those views. A number of us said we were going to vote against him. What this was about was the dignity of the court and the senate, that we get to the bottom of the facts. Ive not looked at the evidence in that way because i havent been able to interview the witnesses that are there. But what i did find was that she seemed very compelling. She answered the questions with grace and dignity, and all we want to do this is why senator flake made what i consider a courageous move in standing up and saying i cant stomach this anymore. This is beneath the dignity of this country. This is dividing the country. Lets at least have an impartial fact finder and they better be impartial. And i believe they can be. The fbi, follow the evidence. Senator you and the other democrats on the Judiciary Committee signed a letter to President Trump describing Julie Swetnicks allegations. There were not a lot of questions asked about her allegations in the hearing. Do you think her allegations that kavanaugh was involved in facilitating women getting so drunk they could then be gang raped. Do you think those allegations are credible . I dont know. I think she has to be interviewed by the fbi. I havent met her. I do believe in due process. She did sign an affidavit. I do think it needs to be looked into. That is all ill say because we are not a Detective Agency in the u. S. Senate. Thats why i repeatedly made the case. Even in the anita hill hearing, george h. W. Bush reopened the background check investigation to look at those allegations. And numerous times, even in the last few months with nominees, those back ground checks have been opened. Thats why we made that strong case to our colleagues on the other side of the aisle. The issue is not when did evidence come out. The issue is, what do you do when it comes out . The Justice System is always messy. When you have power, what do you do with that power . Im very glad that senator flake saw this and called for this investigation. Now it is on him, and he worked with his friend senator coons, and it was a good moment when we got that reopened. Now it will be on him to make sure this is a credible investigation. Youre not asserting anything one way or another about Julie Swetnicks claims. I want to ask you one other question. You said you find it hard to believe, im paraphrasing, that kavanaugh has not had any memory loss from drinking. I want to ask you about when he was asked to explain some of the terms listed in his yearbook, which gets to state of mind, he said terms many believe represented sexist jokes. He insisted they were much more innocent explanations. Do you believe that . I dont know what those terms meant at the time but there is evidence that they meant other things that were much different than what he said. And i think the way you get to the bottom of it, honestly, is ask other people, his friends at the time with the fbi under oath what those terms meant then youre able to much better assess his credibility. I guess the thing that is interesting to me about the kavanaugh debate, the kavanaugh allegations against him is, there are a lot of suspicions against him about whether or not he ever had memory loss, about whether or not hes not telling the truth or being completely forthcoming about what his yearbook jokes meant. It doesnt seem to me that any of that necessarily, especially when it comes to the memory loss, can be proven. And if you cant prove and i get this is not a court of law, but if you cant prove that hes not telling the truth, is that enough, even though i know you opposed him on policy grounds, is that enough to urge that his nomination be withdrawn based on suspicion . Again, i dont want to engage in hypotheticals here. In the end it will be the decision of senator flake and senator collins and senator murkowski. Senator manchin. Some of the senators that are still undecided. They are going to have to look t the whole record here, at his demeanor. Theyll have to look at those decisions he made, like finding the Net Neutrality rules unconstitutional. Or finding the Consumer Financial bureau unconstitutional. His views of executive power, his views for senator murkowski on native american rights. Right. His views on what happened here and was he telling the truth or not . And just for the country, a number of us said, whether we supported him or not, at least give them those facts as they make a decision on who they want to serve on the highest court of the land. Senator Amy Klobuchar of minnesota, thank you very much for joining us today. Appreciate it. Thank you, jake. Great to be on. Turn the other cheek or hit them where it hurts . One Christian Conservative says his party needs to stop electing nice guys. Thats coming up next. Im carl and im a broker. Do you offer 4. 95 online equity trades . Great question. See, for a full Service Brokerage like ours, thats tough to do. Schwab does it. Next question. Do you offer a satisfaction guarantee . A what now . A satisfaction guarantee. Like schwab does. Man scoffing what are you teaching these kids . Ask your broker if they offer awardwinning full service and low costs, backed by a satisfaction guarantee. If you dont like their answer, ask again at schwab. 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Yeah. Matt damon as Brett Kavanaugh. Rachel dratch as senator Amy Klobuchar. That was last night on snl. Lets discuss. Governor, what if this happens . The fbi report comes back, its basically all the same things we know now except the investigations have been done by the fbi. What then . Well, i hope hes voted down then. I mean, i think as you know, i was not in favor of him to begin with, for a variety of reasons, but i do think that this is a moment that was really a watershed for people who have not been heard. When flake when senator flake was in that elevator and Maria Anna Maria and Maria Gallagher said, look at me. Are you telling me that my experience doesnt matter . Women have felt that way for so long. And these two spoke for so many that the ability to have an investigation this is before of course, we knew that the investigation was going to happen, i cannot tell you the palpable pain that existed among people who felt like plowing over, plowing through women. We had the most credible witness we could possibly have and it wasnt going to be good enough. Lets show that sound because you were referring to it and senator flake said it affected him. It was after he said he would vote for kavanaugh but before he pushed for the compromise leading to the fbi investigation. Look at me when im talking to you. Youre telling me that my assault doesnt matter, that what happened to me doesnt matter and youre going to let people who do these things into power. Thats what youre telling me when you vote for him. Dont look away from me. Look at me and tell me that it doesnt matter what happened to me. Heart rending. I know you want a speedy confirmation process and you support judge kavanaugh. Could it not be argued that ultimately this is actually the function of the senate to cool things down, to take its time and that President Trump has said maybe this is a blessing in disguise to at least let people know that the fbi has looked into these charges . I think, as you said, its very likely, i think, in my case, that the fbi will interview the same people that the Senate Judiciary committee has interviewed. They havent interviewed judge or theyve only interviewed right but the fbi, if those people want to submit statements to the fbi, they have no power to subpoena them any more than the Senate Judiciary committee has done. What i predict is at the end of the day well see the information we have. Well have two very compelling stories and no actual contemporaneous corroboration of them. I think were seeing some democrats preparing the ground after saying for two weeks the fbi is the gold standard. You have senator schumer saying the fbi isnt biased, its unprofessional. They can do that soberly, discretely and senator coons saying four days of a they should be enough. Now theyre starting to say wait a minute, we think theyre not going to be doing this completely. Lets not buy into the fbi is only for delay here. I think it will be good to have everyone a lot of senators said were still not quite settled until we hear from the fbi about it. Well hear from these witnesses and theyre starting to come out with repeated testimony, Leland Keyser, dr. Fords friend, who said i support her but i still dont remember the events she described. Were going to see the same kind of result here at the end of the day. People may have more confidence because they saw the fbi involved and then moving forward to a vote. So moving forward to a vote, tens of millions of americans are going to look at this process. I have to wonder what chief Justice John Roberts thinks about this process, as well, as somebody who cares about the integrity of the court and not wanting it to be political. Tens of millions of americans will look at Justice Kavanaugh as somebody who got away with it. As they did Clarence Thomas. This process was so badly bungled, by both sides. You know, the minute these allegations came out, i said get the fbi out again and do an investigation. That should have been done actually before the hearing. I think its unfortunate that it happened here. That is whats normally done. I went through not accusations of Sexual Assault, but accusations against me when i was up for secretary of labor. And by the time i got off the telephone and drove home, the fbi was practically on my doorstep waiting to reinterview me and other people. Had this process taken the right form, had it not been politicized, i think we would have a lot more confidence. And it isnt just not coming up with corroborating evidence. I want questions asked of dr. Ford as well. We cant live in a society in which accusations of this kind of activity are enough to ruin give me one question you want to ask her. She has a clear recollection of going down the stairs and going outside. This is a woman who didnt drive. Somebody drove her home. We didnt have cell phones. We didnt have ubers. There are other people who need to be questioned. And i can remember as a 15yearold who used to drive me. Not to every single event but there were just a handful of people who drove when i went to parties and my father. And so, i mean, i do think more questions this idea that we have to believe dr. Ford just because she testified about what happened in that room, obviously one of these people does have one of these people does have a faulty memory. Senator turner, it has, in many ways one level its about kavanaugh and professor ford. On another level i went to a Party Last Night and heard women telling these stories about their experience and we heard Kellyanne Conway. And i did a few days ago. Right, on my show. Lets run a little bit from Kellyanne Conway. A remarkable moment i was not expecting just minutes ago. I feel very empathetic, frankly, for victims of Sexual Assault and Sexual Harassment and rape. That im a victim of Sexual Assault. I dont expect judge kavanaugh or jake tapper or jeff flake or anybody to be held responsible for that. You have to be responsible for your own conduct. What was your reaction when you heard that . The assault part, you know, touched this whole situation has triggered lots of emotions and people are bubbling up. Just a mallstrom of emotion. Im not sure what she meant about people need to be responsible for their own actions. In a lot of ways victims of Sexual Assault and rape, you cant say that that person is responsible for that happening. Im not saying thats what she was trying to say but right after that and being able to reveal that just like that, she probably wasnt planning to reveal that and immediately went to the next. I do agree with the governor, this is a watershed moment for this country. And i hope more good can come from this. Not only listening to women. Kellyanne brought up great points about what happened. Some victims are listened to and some are not. We have to stop that in this debris. Especially if youre poor or of color. In my hometown of cleveland you have poor, black women, some drug addicted, some alcoholics, were raped, murders, kept in this mans house. Even when they went to the police, they cant believe them. Why . Because of their status in this country. We have work to do beyond whats happening in this kavanaugh hearing. And i think she meant the perpetrator is responsible for their behavior and other men arent. And not to put that on some other man. But she obviously thinks something happened to professor ford but that Brett Kavanaugh didnt do it. It seems theyre both credible and they both believe what they believe. Its possible dr. Ford remembers wrong. Its also possible that Brett Kavanaugh remembers wrong. Do you find it credible that he has no memory blackout . Even though he by his own admission drank to excess . He said that under oath. We have people who knew him from the time, dozens of people who say that they find him credible, that this is that allegations dont line up at all with what theyre saying as well as everyone she places at the scene doesnt remember it. Some of them also say, you know, her friend says i dont think i even knew him. Other people say this sounds nothing like Brett Kavanaugh. We have a lot of corroborating testimony. I think that he said it under oath. I think as Kellyanne Conway was trying to say, horrible things happen to a lot of women. We cant hold him responsible for them. We have to look at each case. We have to cut it off. We went long with kellyanne because after what she said, we wanted to give time to talk about it. Sorry we cut the panel short. Well have you back here. Thank you for being here. Passion, anger, emotion. Marketing . Mad men theory of politics in the senate hearings, the topic of this weeks state of the cartooniun. Stay with us. 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