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A look at Breaking News, politics and reports from around the world. A look at Breaking News, politics and reports from around the world. Paid 27 million for instance from ukraine. And also identified some of the offshore Bank Accounts. And they also made clear that the defense will put rick gates, Paul Manaforts former deputy, on trial. They called him the star witness and they called out the government for barely mentioning rick gates in their opening. Rick gates obviously also served on the Trump Campaign, as a matter of fact he stayed the Trump Campaign even after Paul Manafort was fired from the campaign. One of the things we wont hear in court and weve talked about it a little bit is we wont hear much about President Trump. The prosecute are tore ors and l try to make it only about the financial instruments, the taxes and Bank Accounts that according to the government Paul Manafort was lying about. They want to make sure that russia and the Collusion Question never enter into this trial. The jury is now right at this moment hearing from the first witness. This is a court that moves very quickly as you mentioned. Tadd devine a democratic strategy is testifying for prosecutors. We expect that the defense will also raise questions to tadd devine essentially showing that Paul Manafort worked for not only republicans, he also worked with democrats that really he was working when he was working overseas, it was a nonpartisan issue. Evan perez in alexandria, virginia, thank you. With the Mueller Investigations first trial now under way, President Trump and his lawyers seem to be cooking up a new Defense Slogan of their own. The president will hold a Campaign Rally shortly in tampa, florida. Lets go there. Jim acosta is already on the scene for us. So jim, what is the latest . Reporter President Trump is in florida tonight to do some campaigning ahead of the mid term elections. But the president and his team are still busy trying to get their story straight on the russia investigation. Mr. Trump is now echoing his lawyers who have gone from saying there was no collusion during the 2016 election to insisting that collusion is not a kricrime after all. President trump appears to have a new strategy for the russia investigation. Ignore questions from reporters while spinning up a new defense where he shielded from Outside Scrutiny Tweeting Collusion is not a crime, a notable leap from the president who claimed there was no collusion. There is no collusion because you know why, i dont speak too russian as. There has been no crime. I can only say this, there was absolutely no collusion. Everybody knows it. Every committee. There is no collusion. No collusion with russia other than by the democrats. Reporter the president now amplifying what Rudy Giuliani said monday. I dont even know if that is a crime. Reporter And Another Trump attorney jay sekulow said today. Not just technically correct. That is actually the law. But there is no violation of law, statute, rule, regulation that we somewhere seen after reviewing this case for a year and i think bob mueller will come to the same conclusion. Reporter democrats arent buying it. I cant keep up with Rudy Giulianis theories and defense. They change almost by the hour. You know, collusion at one point never happened. The next point, if it happened, it is not serious. Reporter weighed done by the russia probe, the president is turning to issues popular with his base threatening to shut down the government to make congress pay for a border wall insisting that is a small price to pay and tweeting i dont care what the political ramifications are. Even fellow republicans are leery of a shutdown with the midterm elections fast approaching. I kind of see it as posturing. It is irresponsible thing to do i think. Reporter mr. Trumps Border Policy is coming under increasing scrutiny with an Administration Official admitting that the practice of separating children amounts to child abuse. There is no question that separation of children from parents entails significant potential for traumatic psychological injury to the child. Reporter one of the president s hard liners on immigration john kelly appears to be sicking around. Sources confirm the president has asked kelly on to remain at his post until 2020. Though cnn has learned the Chief Of Staff wanted the story leaked to tamp down reports that he could be on his way out. Mr. Trump arrives in florida with the Upcoming Elections on his mind throwing his support behind ron desantis. He reads stories. Then mr. Trump said youre fired. Reporter desantis appears in a new ad teaching his children how to build their own wall and a show of big league flattery. Big league, so good. Reporter the white house closed out the month of july without holding a briefing to reporters, so that means the white house held only three briefings for the press this month and eight total since the end of may. There is no other way to describe what the white house is doing these days, though top officials including the president are hiding from the press. And just to give you a sense, you can hear there is a are chorus of boous aboos and other saying things like cnn sucks, go home and fake news. Obviously all those things are false. Were staying right here, well do our job and report on this rally to all of our viewers here tonight. As you should. Jim beingacrososta, thank you. Facebook has announced that it is shutting down dozens of pages that may have been tied to russians spreading disinformation ahead of the november mid term elections. Drew griffin has been digging in to this for us. What are you learning . Reporter well, facebook did shut down these 32 accounts, they run the gamut from an indian support page to an account about mindfulness. But the biggest had to do with the Divisive Political issues which we saw so much of around that 2016 president ial campaign. Page after page about race resistance is one of them including one with President Trump and a flag all aimed at further polarizing the american electorate. One page i want to show you called resister organized several events, one was held last november in new york. Plenty of people showed up not realizing the whole thing was started by a fake Facebook Group likely run by russians. Resisters also set up another event in d. C. , a Counter Protest to a White National rally scheduled less than two weeks from today. Five other real groups got involved with this, some of the people we contacted having a hard time believing the people that they have been messaging on facebook arent who they say they are. In all, nearly 290,000 users followed these 32 fake accounts. As for who is behind it, facebook cant say for sure that it the russian, but it has all the hallmarks of the activities the russians were doing around the president ial election in 2016. This time the pages doesnt lead back to russian ip addresses. They used Third Party Services to boost their posts and encourage people to follow the pages. But again, it looks an awful lot like russian activity. And what are u. S. Officials saying about the russian involvement in this case . Reporter the sect of Homeland Security happened to be speaking at Cybersecurity Conference today in new york. She said there is no doubt russia is gearing up to meddle in the u. S. Midterm elections and she compared the threat to a looming storm. Today i believe the next major tack is more likely to reach us online than on an airplane. We are in a crisis mode. The cat 5 hurricane has been forecast and now we must which is why after i finish talking to you, im going to join senator rubio on the floor and well call on the senate to urgently take up our legislation called the deter act which would tell putin if he gets caught interfering in the 2018 elections or elections going forward, he will face immediate harsh penalties. We have to take every action to protect our democracy. The Trump Administration is not doing enough. The senate has to act. Is President Trump personally involved, is he doing what he needs to do as the president of the United States to deal with this . Reporter well, as we know, he hasnt really come around to fully admitting in his heart that the russians everyone interfered in the 2016 election. And so they have taken no real action to protect us. The 2018 election if they are serious about it, if the Trump Administration wants to support the effort, they should support our bipartisan legislation. We have 98 days or so to go into the election. And we have to pass this. We have to let putin know that the cost of interference are much higher than any benefit he seeks to gain. How much support do you and senator rubio have . We have growing support. We have about 12 cosponsors already, six republican, six democrats. It is growing every day. We had a briefing in the Banking Committee which oversees sanctions earlier today. Both the Senate Foreign Relations Committee and Banking Committees will be having hearings. But hearings arent enough. The real test about whether the Republican Leadership wants to join with democrats to protect our democracy will be whether they get beyond the hears and actually move on the deter act. Lets turn to our top story, former campaign compare man Paul Manafort in court today. First trial of the Special Counsels investigation. How important is this case to Robert Muellers overall russia probe . Well, it is very important. 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Despite all the president ial tweet tsz as and the attacks on Special Counsel and all attacks to try to define what Robert Mueller is up to, he has produced a number of charges against so far four of Trumps Campaign associates, 25 russians for interfering in the election. But Paul Manafort, the president s former campaign chairman, very much a focus of his investigation. Hopefully denounced. Call it the rigged witch hunt. Reporter Robert Muellers investigation has produced a steady stream of indictments and are arrests over the last 14 months and enters a new phase with the start of the first of two trials for Paul Manafort. Trumps former campaign chairman. In virginia he faces charges of bank and tax fraud. In washington, he is accused of failing to register as a lobbyist for a foreign government. And obstruction of justice. And mueller may not be done with manafo manafort. This memo indicates that the Special Counsel is still investigating whether manafort was, quote, colluding with russian government officials, end quote, to interfere in the 2016 election. There is no evidence that mr. Manafort or the colluded. Reporter rick gates has already pleaded guilty and will testify against manafort. Among the others indicted, Michael Flynn, trumps former National Security adviser and George Papadopoulous, former campaign aid. Both pleaded guilty to lying to prosecutors and both are cooperating with the investigation. An associate of manaforts described in Court Documents as a suspected russian intelligence operative also indicted, 13 russian nationals and three russian entities. Charged with interfering in the 2016 election. And most recently, another group of 12 russian nationals, charged with hacking the Democratic National committee and the clinton campaign. His team has interviewed at least two dozen members of the Trump Administration and other trump associates. Bob mueller is not making deals left and right. Rick gates, George Papadopoulous and Michael Flynn all traded some pieces of information for their respective plea deals. That is presumably incredible information. Reporter and what has mueller found out about the june 2016 trump tower meeting between donald trump jr. , Paul Manafort, Jared Kushner and russians who promised to share dirt on Hillary Clinton . Trump jr. Has said that he never told his father about the meeting. There was nothing to tell. It was just a waste of 20 minutes which was a shachme. Reporter but sources say Michael Cohen is now claiming trump knew of the meeting in advance and that cohen is prepared to tell mueller. Cohen himself may not be on muellers todo list though having referred his case to federal investigators in new york. So it brings the issue of collusion or conspiracy right to the president s feet. Reporter muellers latest indictment of the Russian Hackers hinted that he may still be looking at the role of other u. S. Persons. Conspirators cores respondre with several americans. Reporter some speculate that may be roger stone. U. S. Intelligences believes wikileaks acted as a middle man. It is innocent. There is no evidence of collusion or conspiracy or coordination. Reporter Department Of Justice also recently released the fisa warrant obtained to Surveil Carter page. At the time the fbi told the court it believed page was the subject of recruitment by the russian government. Ive never been an agent of the foreign a foreign poll power in any by any stretch of the imagination. Reporter questions also remain about blackwater founders mysterious meetings with a russian banker and george nader, an unofficial representative of the united arab emirates. No one was aware that i was there. It had nothing to do where the u. S. Government, nothing to do with the trump team or anything else. Reporter cnn has reported that the purpose of that meeting was to arrange a possible back Channel Communication between the u. S. And russia. But the uae connection could expand humanlmuellers investig. Nader has been cooperating with investigators. Perhaps the biggest question is what if Anything Mueller has in store for President Trump. Including whether he obstructed justice. I think that really that Obstruction Piece will be the final element of this. And that what well more likely see is sort of these dots being connected. Reporter looming large is whether the Special Counsel will demand a sitdown interview with President Trump himself. Ive always wanted to do an interview because, look, there has been no collusion. Reporter for now mr. Trumps attorney Rudy Giuliani says any interview is still under negotiation. I think he shouldnt. I know how convinced he is that he didnt do anything wrong and wants to explain it and ive seen other people get into trouble thinking that, innocent people. Reporter it should be clear none of the charges that manafort faces so far involve cooperation, conspiracy or collusion with the russians. He did however work for years for the prorussian leader of the ukraine including defending his actions to a western audience for instance defending that his jailing of the political opponent. So he was working for it, getting paid tens of millions for a prorussian politician guilty of main bny bad acts. Millions of dollars from a prorussian very close to the kremlin, very close to ukranian leaders. So that is significant. Also accused of shooting civilian protesters in a demonstration. So there was a lot of malign activity by the person he was working for. An important issue. Thanks very much. Coming up, more breaking new, the first trial in the Mueller Investigation has begun as prosecutors layout their case against the former Trump Campaign chairman Paul Manafort accused of avoiding taxes on millions of dollars in secret income. And President Trump hits the Campaign Trail echoing the new argument that collusion is not a crime. Stay with us. My moms pain from moderate to severe Rheumatoid Arthritis was intense. I wondered if she could do the stuff she does for us which is kinda, a lot. And if that pain could mean something worse. Joint pain could mean joint damage. Enbrel helps relieve joint pain, and helps stop further damage enbrel may lower your ability to fight infections. Uz. And use the joint Damage Simulator to see how joint damage could progress. Ask about enbrel. Enbrel. Fda approved for over 18 years. Liberty mutual insurance. Liberty. Liberty. Liberty. Liberty. Were following multiple breaking stories. The first witness already is testifying in the trial of Paul Manafort facing charges brought by Robert Mueller. Our experts are here to discuss what were learning from the Opening Statements. And joey jackson, what stands on out to you so far from the Opening Statements . Well, quite frankly, what stands out to me is why there is a trial in the first place. Let me be clear. There are 18 counts here. It means that if you are convicted of any one of those counts, it is problematic. We know that he faces 305 years. Why are you going to trial. Compound that against the backdrop of the feds having a 95 conviction rate, and i dont see the play. To the specifics of the trial, in terms of what they are saying, what stabs o at stabs s saying, what stabs otands out i issue of agreed, of lgreed, of. Jurors do not like when people have several homes and they have lied to get those homes because they allegedly lied to the bank, bookkeeper, to the government about tax and other issues that they get 21,000 watches and 15,000 jackets that they didnt earn. And so the government is dropping that all upon them and that becomes problematic. And so if you look at the greed, you look at the dishonor and you collectively look at the extent of the alleged fraud, and you look at the 18 counts, you scratch your head and you say why was there not cooperation here. You how important is this first trial for the overall Mueller Probe . I think it is highly significant. To be clear this trial is not about the campaign. It is not about trump. It is not about collusion. However, when you as a prosecutor go out the gate and you have an 18 count case where you have witnesses who are just going to bring to him, it establishes if you are successful not only that you mean business, that your investigations are thorough, that you have people there who are credible, but it also sends a signal to others that you might want to cooperate. You know what, you might want to take a plea deal. You know what, you may not want to go to trial. So i think not wiwithstanding t fact that this is not related to campaign activity, it is highly significant to mueller, to the probe and to just the general competence of the Prosecution Team in the first instance. John kirby, at the same time russia apparently is still doing what they were doing in the 2016 president ial campaign correspond to facebook, they have had to delete a lot of pages, Hundreds Of Thousands of followers. And the suspicion is the russians are trying to foment dissent, a lot of division. Do they appear to be deploying the same strategies as they did in 2016 . From the press reporting, it certainly appears to be that way. And good on facebook for being public about doing something about it. And helping to alert facebook users and the rest of the public about the threat. But it does appear like they are taking a page out of their old playbook and running it again. And we need to be mindful of other vehicles that they might use to sow dissent and chaos. What are you hearing about how the president is thinking dealing with and i will of this as he is trying to go about being president . First of all, im told part of the sort of manic state of his tweets especially recently and well see what he does at this rally tonight has been as it has been for months and months and months if not longer about the Mueller Probe and the fact that he still even to this day when he sees and hears that he thinks, okay, it is my critic saying that im not a legitimate president. But im also told it is more than that and that is that he is becoming increasingly concerned and aware of the prospect of the republicans taking over the house in november and he is saying to aids that t s oies thf rally he is doing tonight he wants to do more of about this is Donald Trumps m. O. When he sees problems, he sees things not getting done, he says forgets it, ill do it myself. No one can do its way i can. He did that in business and he certainly did it in politics. But the question is whether it will play when is he not on the ballot. Certainly in tampa where he is going to support a republican in a primary, other places where he won by big margins in north dakota and west virginia, but a lot of the battleground in the house will be won or lost in swing areas where some of the republican candidates may not be so thrilled with him coming to help them. And sgrjamie, You Brokes Sto of bob woodward mass abook has a book coming out entitled fear. What are you hearing . Were told that donald trump is about to get the bob woodward treatment, that he interviewed dozens of firsthand sources, that he has hundreds of hours of taped interviews. And that they also the book will take you right into the white house. You will see donald trump in the oval office, in the swituation room, even in the white house residence. And beyond that, were told that the sources gave woodward documents. That he has memos, notes, dia diarieses files, everyone notes handwritten by donald trump. Were going to see exactly where this goes, but im told that some of what is in the book includes explosive debates around decisionmaking and you can expect to hear about china, north korea, the middle east. There is new information about the russia investigation. And also you go behind the scenes about what im told President Trump was thinking during those protests in charlottesville. Well see what he comes up with. Looking forward to it. Stick around, there is more news were following. After months of dedeanin inof d collusion, why is he now tweeting collusion is not a crime . And also why the president is attacking some of his fellow republicans calling the Koch Brothers and im quoting him now a total joke. Heres a trip tip when you Search Hotels on tripadvisor. Enter your destination and the dates of your stay. Tripadvisor searches over 200 Booking Sites. To find the best deal on the right hotel for you. Tripadvisor. You always get the lowest price on our rooms, guaranteed . Lets say it in a really low voice. Carl . Lowest price, guaranteed. Just stick with badda book. Badda boom. Book now at choicehotels. Com buffalo Style Chicken in a pouch bold choice, charlie just tear, eat. Mmmmm. And go try all of my Chicken Creations chicken President Trump today directly attacked the koch o brothers, they regularly denature lots of money to conservative organizations. On twitter the president called them a total joke in real republican circles. Rebecca, tell us more about what the president had to say. Wolf, as you can see the president pulling no punches when it comes to the Koch Brothers in addition to the quote that you cited, he said that he has never sought their support because he doesnt need their money or bad ideas. He also said their network is highly overrated. I have beaten them at every turn. So the president asserting his dominance in his republican party with those tweets. But why would the president tweet this now . The context is the Koch Brothers and just charles koch now is the leader of the koch network. It does political work, policy work and other work. They had their meeting in Colorado Springs over the weekend. And one of the top koch officials, brian hooks, was very critical, said that the white house and divisiveness that it is creating will do long term damage. And they also said that they were frustrated with republicans who have followed the president s lead on issues like trade and immigration and that they were going to hold those republicans accountable by potentially not supporting them in crucial election as. Isnt there is a preliminary risk for the president to attack the koch network likeas. Isnt there is a preliminary risk for the president to attack the koch network lis. Isnt there is a preliminary risk for the president to attack the koch network like this so brutally . In one sense, no, because the kochs have never really liked donald trump, donald trump never really liked the kochs. They didnt support him in the president ial election. So no bridges left to be burnt. But the kochs network is comprised of hundreds of donors and businessmen. So there is an element of this that could be a risk for the president if he wants to upset this very powerful network. At the same time, this really highlights the split in the Republican Party and donald trump now is the leader of the party. It has gone in his direction. Weve seen republicans take his side on some of the key policy issues and that is why the koch network this weekend expressed such frustration with republicans that they would side with the president on issues like trade, why they want to hold him accountable, but frankly the president lashes out because he is the leader of the Republican Party. Doesnt he real rise thize t koch network gives millions of dollars to conservative think tanks, and very often that is part of the base that reports the Republican Leadership. And they are also spending millions right now, they have committed to spend millions pushing back against the administrations proposed tariffs trying to understand mine one of the president s central policy issues. That would not help him politically to have them working against him. He doesnt seem to care though. Their network is highly overrated, i have beaten them at every turn. So this war under way. Thanks very much for that report. Coming up, despite his agreement with President Trump, is kim jungun secretly building new long range Intercontinental Ballistic Missiles . Tech at safelite autoglass, this as cnn is learning there has not been any official contact in weeks since secretary pompeo visited pyongyang and had a disastrous visit about denuclearization. More than eight months after north koreas last missile launch, what could be a major blow to President Trumps diplomatic efforts with north Korean Leader kim jongun. The Washington Post reports north korea may be developing new Intercontinental Ballistic Missiles at this plant on the outskirtsf of pyongyang. Seemingly a far cry from the pledge to work toward complete denuclearization of the korean peninsula. What we see is real time that north korean officials dont take this seriously. They have no intention of giving up anything. That doesnt come as a surprise to the survival of kim jongun and his family. A u. S. Official tells cnn kim has not made a full commitment to denuclearization, and u. S. Intelligence agencies believes work continues at almost all north Korean Nuclear facilities, including this one. Their Nuclear Capability is still intact. Their testing capability, we just saw a few months ago in the destruction of a testing site. The production is a different question. In other words, u. S. Intelligence says, no significant signs of denuclearization. Contradicting this tweet from President Trump one day after singapore, declaring there is no longer a Nuclear Threat from north korea. North korea continues to produce fissile material, nuclear bomb material. Is that correct . Yes, they continue to produce fissile material. Defense Officials Say the kind of liquid fueled missiles north korea may be developing right now dont pose a major threat. They have to be rolled out and fueled up before launch, giving the u. S. Plenty of advance warning. The big challenge one official says, learning as much as possible about north Koreas Nuclear arsenal before they declare their inventory so the u. S. Can make sure kim jongun is telling the truth. And that last part is crucial because, according to the Washington Post, u. S. Intelligence agencies believe that north korean officials are in fact preparing to deceive the United States about the number of warheads and the number of missiles they have, and they havent even indicated that theyre willing to declare a full inventory yet. Wolf. Will ripley with the very latest, disturbing information indeed. Thank you. Coming up, the Breaking News in the first big court case for the Special Counsel, Robert Mueller. Former Trump Campaign chairman Paul Manafort goes on trial, accused by prosecutors of Hiding Millions of dollars in secret income. Tripadvisor makes finding your perfect hotel. 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