That he may fire dr. Anthony fauci after the election. Lets begin our coverage with alexandra field live in pittsburgh. Alexand alexandra . Reporter alisyn, good morning. People here in pittsburgh are already lining up to drop off their mailin ballots this close to the election, theyre being warned not to put them through the postal service, do it in person. Everyone else is being urged to get to the polls. Both campaigns locked in a battle for the state of pennsylvania, barnstorming in the final hours before election day. President donald trump will be making a fourstate swing today including a stop in scranton. Hes dispatched Vice President mike pence to erie and latrobe. As for the Biden Campaign, they are bringing in the star power to try and seal the deal here in the keystone state. Youve got lady gaga campaigning with joe biden in pittsburgh. Youve got senator Kamala Harris with john legend in philadelphia. This is a state that trump was able to flip with just 44,000 votes back in 2016. Its a state the democrats want back. Joe biden delivering a singular message now to try to appeal to a broad swathe of voters. Hes telling them hes the best leader to get them through the covid crisis. Were going to beat this virus. Were going to get it under control. But the truth is, to beat the virus, we first got to beat donald trump. Hes the virus. Reporter more than 6 Million People voted in pennsylvania in 2016. This time around, some 3 Million People requested mailin ballots. 2. 4 million of those ballots have already been returned and alisyn, this is giving the campaign some critical data. It lets them know where people voted already and where they need to go to turn out the vote now. Alisyn . Alex, thank you very much for all of that. President trump will be very busy campaigning today. Hell hold five rallies in four battleground states. His first stop is North Carolina, where we find Suzanne Malveaux live in fayetteville with more. Whats happening on the ground, sue stand . Reporter good morning, alisyn. Secret service is conducting their sweep as the rally goers are beginning to enter. It will begin in about three hours or so, this is a must win state for the president. The polls showing it very, very tight here. This is where he captured the state by 173,000 back in 2016, but also a state that went to barack obama in 2008. North carolina voters are shattering all kinds of records, early voting records. We have seen 4. 3 million early voters at 62 of all registered voters here have already cast their ballots that, is 95 , if you could imagine that, of all those North Carolina voters of 2016. Not everything has gone smoothly, not everything has gone well. National attention, however, this weekend out of graham, North Carolina, where several hundred peaceful marchers who were simply trying to go from the courthouse to a Polling Center multiracial, multigenerational, they actually did a silent i have jil for george floyd in the street, that is when local authorities told them to clear the street, go to the sidewalk, apparently not fast enough for these authorities, pepper spraying the crowd. Social media showing pictures and video as well of children who were throwing up from the pepper spray, a woman in a motorized wheelchair as well impacted by the spray, about a dozen folks arrested. When it was all said and done, the reverend who led this group, reverend Greg Drumwright making a statement yesterday outraged by all of this. Police authorities defending their reaction. Take a listen. I understand that some people were saying we pepper sprayed children and other, disabled folks. Again, i want to reiterate we never directly sprayed anyone in the face. It was all directed towards the ground in an effort to disperse the crowd. Governor roy cooper is saying that it was unacceptable, that it was an example of voter intimidation that those marchers say theyll be back on tuesday on election day to assert their rights. There are several voters, many people who are nervous about tomorrow, because of what theyve seen over the weekend. John . Yes, hopefully they will not be deterred to go cast their votes. Suzanne malveaux thanks so much for being with us. Joining us now, cnn political analyst maggie haberman, White House Correspondent for the new york times, Mark Mckinnon producer of the circus and joel benningson, worked on the campaigns of president obama and Hillary Clinton. What an august group this morning. Maggie, let me start with you. You are so well sourced inside the white house and the Trump Campaign. What are they saying this morning . Look, theyve been signaling surprising amount of optimism given the polls were seeing over the last couple of days. There is widespread recognition the president is likely to lose the popular vote by a wider margin than he did in 2016 and he can in their minds eke out a victory with a win in michigan, wisconsin or pennsylvania. Thats certainly possible. Pennsylvania is pretty tight. I think that they are well aware that its very possible if there is not a clear call by tomorrow night, they are going to drag this out over several days and fight over balballots. Theyre not keeping that a secret. The president is according to everyone i have spoken to volatile, that he is up and down in terms of how he is perceiving this. They are very happy with what theyre seeing on the ground in terms of crowds but as you know as well as i do, crowds in a president ial race do not indicate every metric of voter engagement. Joel, on the flipside, what are you seeing, what positive signs are you seeing that signal a democratic win that you may not have seen in 2016 . I think there are a couple of things, alisyn. Number one is very important dynamic in 2016 you had both candidates had very high unfavorable ratings, about 57 , they were both what we call underwater. Right now Vice President bidens favorable rating is 51 favorable, 44 unfavorable. Donald trumps is still about 13 points underwater. I think the other things that are going on here are a couple of voting blocks trump needs to win, suburban voters 49 of the electorate nationally, donald trump carried them by four points in 2016. Right now joe biden is leading with suburban voters by 17 points. Also similarly, your poll this weekend showed biden winning with seniors by 11 points, voters over the age of 65. This is a critical voting block. Trump won them by seven points so trump is campaigning, and i think they know it, that theres erosion around the coalition they built last time. This doesnt mean this race is over by any means but there are certainly indicators here with these groups where trumps margin is shrinking. The third one i would throw in would be white noncollege voters. Trump won them by 37 points last time and right now, according to your poll, hes only leading them by about 16 or 18 points so the margin has been cut in half there. I think thats why theyre scrambling in a lot of these battleground states. They know theyre under pressure here pretty heavily with groups they are underperforming with. Mark mckinnon, monday, 34 hours until the first polls close in indiana and kentucky. What do you see . Where are we headed . 2016 caveats, blah, blah, blah if you asked me or Joel Benenson back in february what are the worst possible things for the reelection, the democrats nominate a centrist pragmatic nominee from pennsylvania, the key state in the crowned jewel of the midwest you have to win, two, theres a global pandemic, three, the president contracts that virus, four, the virus spikes in all the swing states in the last week and then the president goes negative on doctors and dr. Fauci, the most popular Infectious Disease expert in the world. Id say that sets you up for a problematic strategic scenario for winning. That was last night, mark. Do you think that saying he would fire fauci after the election, do you think theres still time to sway voters heading to the ballot box . Do you think that that will have an impact . I think its pretty cooked in. It will reinforce feelings that people already have. Trump supporters dont like fauci and biden supporters love him, so i just think its going to reinforce feelings that people already have. Its a motivation in the last 24 hours is key, in 2016 the one thing i try to ignore the data and say as a campaign guy, where is the momentum . In 2016 it felt like there was a wind at trumps back. Feels there is a wind at bidens back. The president cant really fire anthony fauci. Right. So not only does he make a point of raising the possibility or at least humoring the possibility at a rally last night, he does it in a way he cant execute it, right, so he gets all the negatives from firing dr. Fauci and if he wants to, he cant do it. Maggie, obviously the Trump Campaign is going hard at pennsylvania and we know why, thats very obvious. Obviously we know theyve been on the phone with everyone projecting a more positive tone than they have certainly two or three weeks ago but even in the positive tone, you do hear concerns about certain places, georgia keeps coming up in trump world. Theyre nerve bus georgia, with why . Theyre nervous about georgia and North Carolina, two states where there are a lot of suburbanites who are really not happy with the president s conduct. There are two states where there are high black populations they can turn out for joe biden and against this president and again, it is interesting as you say, they are seeing this in their own numbers. Over the last two days ive heard more optimism about georgia from the Trump Campaign and i want to ask, i dont pay a ton of attention to everybodys projected optimism or pessimism in the final days. Theyre saying what they need to say. However, they have seen georgia and North Carolina as two trouble spots over the last two weeks at least, and that is alarming to them. I get it. I want to make clear, youre telling us what youre hearing from them. Right they would not be doing their jobs if they werent projecting optimism to you and the rest of us. But it is true, those are two spots that they are concerned about. Theyre concerned about arizona as well for similar reasons, and when you are an incumbent president headed into an election and three states that are key to a victory are on this much of, in their perception a knifes edge, might be much worse than that, thats problematic. So joel, one of the things that im hearing from the trump sources is that part of the reason theyre optimistic is because theyve registered so many more republicans they think than democrats have, and that they think that theyre turning those out, that theres a narrowing of the gap between at first registered democrats were showing up a lot in early voting and now somehow registered republicans are. Do you put stock in that . I dont know whether anything they say is accurate. We have a history of close elections in this country for president. We dont have a lot of blowouts, so we know in 2016 it was extremely close. Id say the only things that are different now is that were seeing the Trump Campaign play as maggie just pointed out a little more defense than in the past. So i think the reality is closer to the truth than professing being more sanguine about registering voters. I also think they know that if you look at the three states in what democrats always call their blue wall, pennsylvania, wisconsin and michigan, theres no question, those states have tightened but theyre not anywhere near as much as they had tightened in the days before the election in 2016. Biden has slightly bigger leads right now in pennsylvania than Hillary Clinton had. He has bigger leads in michigan than Hillary Clinton had at this point. Wisconsin is about the same. If joe biden wins those three states, hes going to be president of the United States. I think thats why the Trump Campaign knows theyre on defense, not just in those states, but theyre playing defense in any other state. If they lose North Carolina and arizona, it gets very hard to see them getting to a map of 270 electoral votes. I feel like im getting smarter just speaking to joel and mark and maggie, but not smart enough. Theres still room for more growth so friends, dont go anywhere. Well keep talking to you. Theres a lot of other news this morning. The fbi is investigating this incident involving a Biden Campaign bus and a group of trump supporters. Well have more on that coming up. Back with us, maggie haberman, Mark Mckinnon and Joel Benenson. Great to see all of you guys again. Thanks for sticking around. We talked a lot about pennsylvania. Lets talk, mark, about florida. What are you looking at . Florida, florida, florida, as tim russert famously said. I still have fever dreams from 2000. Its a key state obviously but a state that trump and republicans have to win or theres really almost an impossible pathway, and so the one thing that could happen in this election, we talk about all the nightmare scenarios and chaos that could happen. The one thing that could change all of that is if florida goes for biden, then it will be over early, clearly and finally. So if youre watching tuesday night, tomorrow night, and the vote comes in for biden in florida, you can go to bed. Given everything that youve seen well id like to give that to joel. My observation is biden is doing better with seniors which is key to florida. The Trump Campaign says were making up for that with cuban americans in america and africanamerican voters. I would ask joel, is that enough, can biden make it through in florida with seniors or trump make it up with hispanics and africanamerican voters and noncollege whites . If only we had Joel Benenson here, oh, wait. Im here. Look, i think florida, we know is historically been very close. Donald trump won it by one point last time. I dont think this is a state he owns. They claim theyre trying to make inroads there, but at the same time, trump has an enormous problem. He ran last time as the outsider. He was the rebel. He was going to shake things up in washington. He was going to drain the swamp. Hes been president of the United States for four years now, and hes presided over the worst pandemic in the history of this country. There are 9 million cases, almost a quarter of a million americans dead. He owns that right now. Hes responsible for it. He likes to pass the buck. Thats what hes really good at. Americans know this comes back to a president who does his job or doesnt and most elections when theres an incumbent running are a referendum on the incumbent. So i think yes, there are some shifts happening in florida. It is a state that republicans have to win. Joe biden doesnt have to win it. If he wins it, its going to be pretty earlier call than most of us are expecting right now. Maggie, on the subject that joel was talking about the pandemic, we understand that the white house is making plans or the president is making plans to hold his Election Night festivities indoors in the east room . Yes. With hundreds of people . I guess it may not sway the election holding a possible super spreader event but might make people sick. It might make people sick. Its unclear whether theyre planning on testing people or not but as we know the rapid test the white house has been using has a high false negative rate in general and either way, its quite a closing message for a president who has spent the arc of this pandemic beginning back in february going into the end of january, going until now minimizing it, downplaying it and defying what his own administration has advised about how to handle it, certainly in this case its guidance against having a couple hundred people indoors. That is whats going to happen and there are all kinds of issues with this, logistical issue in terms of getting around washington, the mere fact of all these people in the same room, originally this party was expected to be at the trump hotel in washington, d. C. , and it was moved i think for a couple of reasons. One is the trump folks are concerned about the potential for having their Liquor License taken away by washington, d. C. Officials who have a cap of 50 or less than gatherings. So thats one issue but the other issue, john, is this gives the president some measure of control, if the evening is not going the way he wants it, if its looking like hes in trouble, lets say biden has a blowout night. This means that trump isnt required or expected to show up somewhere outside the white house and he can control a little bit more of what he sees and finally lets him be surrounded by the thing he wants all the time, which is a crowd. Mark, 231,000 americans have been killed by coronavirus, and if this election is a referendum on the handling of coronavirus, it seems that President Trump in these waning days has leaned into that, just leaned into that, been sort of celebrating the masklessness and telling fox tv host to take off her mask and holding this possible super spreader event, theyre not trying to avoid that anymore. Yes, and think about this, and ive been in a lot of these swing states when the Trump Campaign has come through and done these rallies. In every single swing state over the last week, the coronavirus has been spiking. So the lead story on all of those news stations and in those newspapers is trump comes to town in huge rally events with most people not wearing masks, not socially distancing and coronavirus spikes. Thats the double header of the story, so not only is it not a good story, its doubling down on a bad story for people in those states and were talking about florida. You think seniors arent noticing the issue on the virus spiking . So you know, key constituencies, especially seniors in florida, for example, that we were talking about, not a good strategy. I think its getting closer. Its his only strategy. Thats all he does. If i could throw in one quick thought. When youre running a president ial campaign, you got two imperatives. You have to reinforce your strengths and knock against your negatives. Donald trumps approval rate of the handing of the coronavirus have been disastrous for an inc president. You and mark have made a great political career out of this consulting thing. What can you do with 34 hours left at this point to make any kind of difference . Whats your life like these last 34 hours, if youre part of the campaign, joel . Usually anxiety. Youre really hoping that all the things youre seeing that are positive are working out for you, that if youve got negatives, you can overcome them. In 2016 we had the whole dust up because of jim comey bringing up the emails the weekend before the election, about six days out. You dont want to be dealing with your negatives six days out, and that was really something that i think led to a lot of Hillary Clintons defeat at the end. We had to get out from under the whole email controversy and we couldnt do it. Trump needs to get out from under his failures on coronavirus, but hes completely lacking of any repairive skills as a politician. He refuses to acknowledge damage, so he consequently cant fix it. Mark, your answer to that . What do you think each campaign can do in these sunset hours . Its a terribly frustrating time for the ad guy like me in a campaign because theres nothing you can do. I would generally day drink and go to a movie. Weve been doing that for days. Why wait until the day before the election . And maggie, i mean, in terms of what theyre saying on the Trump Campaign, are they aware of these strange optics of coronavirus spreading like wildfire and their big rallies and does it concern anyone . Look, there are some people in the campaign who for a while over the summer were telling the president not to do big rallies. You saw what happened in tulsa, when the president insisted on holding one in june, and a fraction of the people they were expecting to come came because there were people in this country who are afraid of getting sick. They have basically foregone that. The president sees the fact that crowds come out for his rallies as vindication of his position, that he is right to be continuing to do it. I think that most people alisyn on this campaign, not everybody, but enough feel like they are held captive by how the president wants to run this, and there are plenty of examples of candidates who are dominant over their campaigns but this president is very different in that respect. Its very hard to get him to change his behavior or do anything differently. Most people have generally given up trying as hard as they might have several months ago. Mark, i covered the campaign you worked on in 2000 that went into overtime. What do people need to be prepared for now, no matter what they hear from politicians tomorrow night in terms of when this election will be over, when we will know whether theres a winner and when theres a winner. Youve done a good job this morning and as have a lot of other Media Outlets to make it clear that you wait until all the votes are counted and the good news for this election, i think, heres my prediction is that all of this waving of the flags of rigged elections and mailed ballots in the rivers has had a reverse effect in the sense it has opened peoples eyes about the voting process, why its important, how its important, how you do it, and i think as a consequence, people are voting early, earlier and safer, making sure their ballots in, making sure its secure, and i think it may surprise all of us in the sense that we actually have a clear and concise and definitive outcome f not early tuesday night, into wednesday. From your lips to county executives ears. 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Why is that of concern to you . So john, we are breaking records all over the place here. The rate of acceleration of this virus is just increasing. We added a million cases in 14 days. Were going to add the next million in less than 14 days and we are already seeing our hospitals at breaking point in some parts of the country and that means it doesnt just affect patients with coronavirus, it also means that elective surgeries are being put off for things like hip replacements, for cancer surgery, or heart surgery in some cases and also means that rural hospitals are now already unable to transfer patients to higher levels of care, and may even be transferring their patients with heart attacks or strokes, hundreds of miles away. This when we get to breaking point here, we might have no other choice but to implement these measures that no one wants, like shutdowns and thats why we have to take action right now targeted measures like wearing masks, like restricting indoor gatherings, things that we can do now to prevent that really horrible outcome, because cases are raging out of control across the u. S. Youre an emergency room physician. You know about this. Youve seen this, and we all remember the videos from our reporters who went in to some of these overwhelmed hospitals of the stretchers, the gurneys lining the hallways, the doctors hearing one after another of whatever that code is for somebody going in to distress over and over and the speakers. I just shutter to think whats happening in some of these hospitals in the midwest and upper midwest now. Right, and the difference between whats happening now versus what happened before is that the virus is everywhere now. Before when there were just a few hot spots across the country, their Health Care Workers could volunteer and go between different states. You could also have enough medications because medications ventilators ppe could be shipped from one area to another but when the virus is so widespread, we could very well run out of ppe. We are already running short of many critical medications and were also going to run out of Health Care Workers which means that patient care is going to suffer, and we will be at breaking point in our hospitals. So we are where we are in this pandemic and as dr. Fauci has made clear he thinks its a bad place to be and were in for a lot of pain. Theres a lot of focus, doctor, i dont have to tell you, on the election. Polls close tomorrow night and start to close at 6 00 p. M. Tomorrow night. One thing people need to realize and take into account no matter what happens in this election donald trump will be president until at least january 20th, so my question is, if theres no change in policy, if theres no change in the federal attitude toward this pandemic, what is likely to happen in those months . Its a really good question. There is already so much mixed messaging, misleading messaging thats coming out from this administration. Ive been watching coverage over the weekend and watching these rallies occur at a time when were asking people to hunker down. Were asking people to maybe forego thanksgiving and seeing their loved ones, and at the same time theyre watching tv, seeing thousands of people out there gathered shoulder to shoulder. Its a really big issue, and i think we need to be doing our best to spread the correct information and also any new president coming in, if its a Biden Administration, theyre going to be facing the same problems as well of that kind of messageing, and so inag messaging. If there is a new Biden Administration they should be galvanizing and energizing the American People now and spreading the message that we can make a difference, that the actions of the American People have taken to date, they are not wasted because we have saved many lives and we can save many more to come. If President Trump wins reelection, i assume well hear more about dr. Scott atlas, seems to be the person who has president s trumps ear the most. Is he not an expert in Infectious Diseases but he went on rt, russian television, known to be a Foreign Agent and propaganda arm of russia and had to apologize for it. Ill read you a portion of his apology, i regret doing the interview and apologize for allowing myself to be taken advantage of. Rookie mistake here, and you know, i just wonder what you think as a doctor that this is the person who is leading apparently the strategy . Yes, so theres the problem of where dr. Atlas or scott atlas made the comments but i think the bigger problem is what he said, because what he said to rt is the same thing thats been spreading to other Media Outlets in the last several months and its full of lies and false information. No one wants a shutdown. The Public Health community very much understands why a shutdown is so harmful but the reason we may be close to another shutdown now is actually because of failure by the Trump Administration to take this virus seriously and by scott atlas continuing to downplay the severity of this virus t actually is causing so much harm to the American People. Dr. Wen, thank you very much. Well speak to you again very soon. So one of the final Campaign Event of the 2020 race takes place in the battleground state of wisconsin. A live report from there next. Honey honey . New nyquil severe honey is maximum strength cold and flu medicine with soothing honeylicious taste. Nyquil honey. The nighttime, sniffling, sneezing, coughing, aching, stuffy head, fever best sleep with a cold medicine. Hey while the guys arentcatch listening. We need your help. Your platforms are toxic to women who lead. We are targeted with ugly and violent language, with threats of sexual assault, coordinated bots attack women for political gain. We have asked facebook to do better, our freedom, our democracy is at risk. We are fighting back, and were asking you to join us. Weve got your back, do you have ours . You know, lean in. President trump heads back to the upper midwest today in hopes of chipping away again at the democrats blue wall. Cnns ryan young is live in milwaukee with more. What are you seeing on the ground, ryan . Absolutely. We know that President Trump will be in kenosha again today and of course thats where that policeinvolved shooting, theres so much unrest happened earlier this year. You could tell the president struggled in the state. He was here friday, the first lady sunday and ivanka sunday and hes back monday. President trump surprisingly won this state back in 2016 by less than 1 and i can tell you, after being here for a few days, you cant turn the tv or the radio on without hearing some sort of ad. If you look at the video we shot from over the weekend, there were long lines all throughout the state as people were showing up to vote. More than 1. 9 Million People so far have cast their ballots already. One of the things that we have to think about is the coronavirus. Its a big part of the story here. The surges have been unbelievable. 5,000 new cases on friday, there were 3,000 cases, more than 3,000 cases just yesterday, and monday is a big testing day in this state. So were at a Testing Center where there will be dozens of people who are coming to get tested. That was the Big Conversation yesterday. People were worried about their economic futures when it came time to the coronavirus, but when we talked to one mom yesterday who was a teacher, she talked about the loss of all the things that have happened not only from family members being sick or just the idea that she didnt get to see her own son graduate from high school, so these personal stories that people are talking about, theyre tired of the political ads. They want to see some sort of action happen especially when it comes to the coronavirus. Alisyn . Youre so right, ryan. Every one of those numbers that we report every morning is a human life, and obviously the impact that all of this has had on families when people get sick is immeasurable. Ryan, thank you very much for all of that reporting. We are one day away from the most consequential election of our life time. Legendary Journalist Bob Woodward here to talk about the high stakes and what this all means for the country. We are in the final hours of the 2020 race and an unprecedented chapter in the history of president ial politics. What will happen next . Joining us now, Pulitzer Prize winning journalist bob road ward, an associate editor at the Washington Post and author of rage the second of two books he wrote about the Trump Presidency. Bob, great to have you here. Thank you. Lets talk about that. Youve written these two best selling books during the Trump Presidency. Youve spent countless hours interviewing him indepth, one on one. Can you give us a general summing up of what youve learned about donald trump . Well, first of all, even republicans acknowledge that it is the coronavirus election that is the central event in peoples lives, and it turns out on january 28th, thats nine months ago, the prospect, the inevitability of this pandemic coming was laid before trump with all the details. He acknowledged it privately in a top secret meeting. Ten days later he told me the virus was actually one that could be transmitted by people who didnt show symptoms, was airborne. He was horrified at what was coming, and then he did not tell the truth to the American People, and he still has not told the truth to the American People about this, and it is one of the most serious, negligent acts by a sitting president i have ever seen as a reporter for 50 years, or in fact in history. Again, hes out campaigning on the campaign trail as we hit record numbers of new cases, saying the country has turned a corner. It is absolutely antithetical to reality t is not the truth. The country is in a worsening situation in terms of the pandemic. So bob, how do you then reconcile what you see as the reality, what you see the truth of the pandemic being with the fact that the polls show that donald trump is trailing in this campaign. I dont think anyone disputes that, but hes still got a chance. How can it be he still has a chance . Well, anything can happen. I think one of the important things going on right now in these days is that the trump voter is going to have to stare down the truth that the president , even though they support him and like him, is not factually working in their interest. In my discussions with trump, i asked him, whats the job of the president . He said to protect the people. He is not protecting the people. There is a National Interest that is very clear to attack and deal with the pandemic, and he does not organize. He does not plan. He makes decisions on impulse, and so we are now in this reality where the future is lying right before us and the future is going to be listen to your doctor, all the doctors to dr. Fauci, all saying people believe in their doctors, and trump has pitted himself against the medical establishment in such an irresponsible, alarming way, and the truth lying out there is worse pandemic, the racial crisis has not really been addressed or solved, and we have economic catastrophe visited on tens of millions of people in this country. And so if the polls are not accurate, and if President Trump does win reelection, what does that tell you, bob, about this country . Well, first of all, the polls are broken. I dont believe in the polls at all. Karl rove, who was george w. Bushs political guru, wrote a column saying, and this is a man who lived by polls, that the system is broken. It is completely broken, so anything can happen. What people need to think about, what is in their interest, and the reality of this pandemic is 9 Million People having this, getting the coronavirus, almost a quarter of a Million People in this country dying. Its defined part of the life for most people in this country, and you reasonably want to ask whats being done about it. I was listening to trump last night in georgia on television, and hes saying, as you point out, turning the corner, vaccines are several weeks away. That just is not true, and then he said, look at me. I had the virus, and im fine, and of course he had the best medical treatment in the world to get him through this. He is not dealing with reality, an absolute american tragedy. We got about a minute left, bob. I know you havent heard today what his advisers are saying, but generally speaking, given the truth that youre laying out here, what is he hearing from the people surrounding him in these waning hours of the election . Well, see there are people around him, but they are cheerleaders, and he dismisses the truth. I showed through, you know, five years almost of reporting on him, he is in a permanent state of denial, when he is presented with information that does not correspond with what he perceives to be his political interests, and what actually is the impulse of the moment. He is impulse driven, and january 28th, nine months ago, should have been the day the Trump Presidency changed and he organized the country for what was coming. Now we have it and theres no plan, no strategy, no coherent effort to tell the public whats going on, and what the next steps are. Bob woodward, you are the author of rage, of course, as well as so many other books. We really appreciate getting your take on all of this. Thank you. Thanks for being with us. Cnns election coverage continues next, and john and i will be back at 5 00 a. M. Eastern tomorrow, september yt m clocks. We look forward to joining you. 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