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The u. S. Embassy, three american citizens and wounding one more. The gunman, according to afghan officials, was then himself shot by other police officers. Hes now in custody and undergoing treatment in hospital. The condition of the fourth american is described as stable. What do we understand about why this supposedly happened . Were hearing it was the Security Guard. Do you think he was an implanted insurgent or do you think this is somebody having a psychotic break . What do we understand . Well, its too early to speculate on a motive. Afghan Officials Say are saying today that the shooting was unprovoked. It just happened. And then he was himself shot. Im sure they will be investigating that more as he regains consciousness and can be questioned. But weve had a few incidents like this in recent times. And the motives have varied from either, as you mentioned, an insurgent planted into the Security Forces or someone who has had other mental or emotional issues that has forced them to act this way. Obviously the concern is going to be that these americans were specifically targeted, noncombatants. Any indication that they were picked on purpose . I know youre saying its early in the investigation but in any of the other incidents that weve had that are like these, were noncombatants tar ge geted . Theyve obviously been targeted today. For reasons were not quite clear of at the moment. We had a shooting of a german photographer last month from an afghan policeman. He told colleagues he was upset about a u. S. Air strike that happened in or around his village some months earlier. Jeremy, thank you very much. Im asking because weve been hearing reports theres a new strategy there on the insurgent side that not just going after defense troops necessarily but noncombatants as a way of sending a message of fear. Thank you for the reporting. Stay safe yourself there. Appreciate it this morning. Also happening. President obama is attending a state dinner tokyo but hes focus og the crisis in ukraine no doubt. The violence and rhetoric are ramping up and both sides are using some of the strongest language to date. The russians with a thinly veiled threat saying they will use force in ukraine if they believe their interests are in danger. And now president is warning more economic sanctions are ready to go if needed. Cnns Michelle Kosinski is live in tokyo traveling with the president with much more. Michelle . Kate, inevitably this topic came up right away. We know additional u. S. Sanctions against russia are teed up, ready to go and eminent. President obama said were looking at days not weeks to continue to wait and see whether russia would live up up to the agreement signed one week ago in geneva to take concrete steps to deescalate the situation. Today president obama said he himself was not overly optimistic, not hopeful that this would actually happen. He even said it wouldnt take much for russia to avoid further sanctions. Basically to step up and say that it would do what it agreed to do or call on militants to put down their arms, give up those government buildings that theyve seized across Eastern Ukraine. So far there hasnt been progress there. The president acknowledged though that additional sanctions may not in fact change the calculus of russian president Vladimir Putin in that region. Chris . Ill take it, michelle. The president having to do with ramped up rhetoric coming from north korea. You will continue traveling with him. Thank you. We have sobering new developments in the search for flight 370. A piece of metal we had been talking about described as an object of interest by authorities there. It was found wednesday on australias coast. They now say it is not con necked to the missing jetliner. Also, the bluefin21, the underwater drone, has scanned, they believe, over 90 of the search zone with no signs of the plane. Lets bring in Erin Mclaughlin live from perth, australia, with the very latest. Erin . Good morning, kate. Authorities here in australia really treated that object of interest with caution as they would any other lead in this investigation as something either needed to be ruled in or ruled out. And overnight the australian transport and Safety Bureau ruling that object out as being connected to missing malaysian flight 370. Theyre not exactly saying what it is that they found. Though it would seem to be just simply a piece of sea garbage, the kind of garbage that has so far really muddied the waters of the visual search. So the focus now goes beneath the water and the efforts of the bluefin21, as of this morning, completing its 12th mission, having traversed 90 of that very narrowed search area and finding no objects there of interest so far which has malaysian and Australian Authorities considering next steps. Theyre currently we understand hammering out a new agreement about a possible next phase, possibly broadening out the search area and introducing more capable, more powerful submersibles into the mix. We are hearing that they could have that agreement deplete complete as early as this week. Chris . All right, erin, thank you very much. Its time to put some heat and light on the problem of disclosure going on in this investigation. Joining us david gallo, one of the coleaders of the investigation to the air france h 4 47 crash and ms. Mary schiavo who knows all about investigative disclosure from her time with the d. O. T. Items of interest. No debris found. Object was unrelated. Bluefin searched 90 . Will take a long time to do the final 10 because its deep and unmapped. We t get all that. Two issues are developing that we dont understand. David, the first is for you. Fatigue. I keep being told by military sources youre not paying enough attention to how hard this search is for those doing the search. Not a call for sympathy but practicality. Were pushing it too hard. Theyre getting fatigue. Theyve been out there a long time. Its 24 7. Youre limited on that ship with how many people there are. Its not like you can bring in fresh people all the time. Theyre probably at usually after a month youre ready to come in for a quick break. Now, they are probably not exposed to all the media thats on this which is probably a good thing, but in your search for 447, even though you were given 90 chance of knowing where it was, you dealt with fatigue and it changed the dynamic and timing of the search. How so . We spent two months in an area that was retrodrift fred all the debris we talk about for air france 447 in a place where the plane was and we were told it was. On board the ship every single day people expected us to find that aircraft. Every day there was more pressure on the team and some leaked through on board the ship. You knew the outside world was watching and it gets to you after a while. Mary, were being told a lot of the equipment that you and david introduced us to, the side scanning sonar and some of the equipment that that go deeper, probably going to introduce that now. What does that mean and how helpful do you think it can be . Well, what it means is that really vastly more resources. Each one of those pieces of equipment needs its own support ship. Youre going to send down additional submersibles, underwater awe on the moss vehicles, each one has to have a crew and ship so theres more there. Some can go deeper and provide more and different pictures than the bluefin and for the 90 thats done that was good for the bluefin but for the 10 thats left you really do need these vehicles that can go deeper and provide the pictures of the ocean floor thats beyond the capability of bluefin21. If anything it means a ramping up of resources and more ships, more equipment, and more expense. All right. So the question of how is pretty well covered here. They got a lot of equipment and they know how to use it. The question of where is getting increasingly confusing for good and bad reasons. The good reason is, they just dont have a lot of data points. The bad reason is, that theyre not sharing information here. Thats becoming a big concern. Not about a speech from me, its about insight from both of you. This preliminary report on top of not answering the questions today family, on top of not being consistent with the plflo of information, is this how it worked in your search . In our case the french were very careful about what got out and what didnt. I it was a criminal investigation from the getgo so they were good about keeping people informed but there wasnt a constant stream of information coming out. It was tighter controlled than this. Tighter controlled, but this is tight control, they wont answer the familys questions about things that have nothing to do with an investigation. Its different because in the case of the air france 447 there was scheduled press conferences so they knew what was coming. They come out with this preliminary report. Mary, is there stuff thats good, tracking planes differently, we like to hear it. They say were not going to make it public. Were going to give it to the International Civil aviation organization, icao, thats nice, but the people who really want it are the media, the families, and all those ancillary interested parties who also want the inmarsat data to see if they can crunch numbers here. Why isnt that happening . Well, thats a good question because almost always the preliminary reports are made public. And you cant theyre not really a huge report. The preliminary reports just basics. Just the facts. The jack webb stuff, just the facts man. It tells you what happened, what we know, where it is so far. Kind of the preliminary high post cease, what theyre looking at, not more. Just the basic data. Theres not a thing in there that could compromise any criminal investigation because its what we know so far. For example, the ntsb posts those on the internet. There are thousands posted by the ntsb. Usually they dont have recommendations. This is different. You wait until the end to make your recommendations. Here they came forth with some already which is good but theres no reason not to make that public. And certainly not to give it to the family members. That always happens in ntsb investigations. It seems like they are choosing consistency over what would be seen as more rational and effective in this situation. Thats what it seems like at least from an observational standpoint. And no less than the u. S. Navy once was having a hard time dealing with data and they opened it up to anybody to who could help with it and got a solution from somebody who had nothing to do with the investigation. Just a point of word. Mary, david, thank you for the perspective. Hopefully more information starts coming out. Thanks, chris. Lets look at more of your headlines. Authorities in south korea widening their investigation now into the ferry disaster as divers bring more bodies to the surface. At least 171 people are now confirmed dead with 131 still unt accounted for. Investigators raided the offices of the Ferry Company as well as the home of the wealthy reclusive owner. Overnight the number of crew members criminally charged rose once again to 14 now. That includes the ships captain. The middle east Peace Process has been thrown into disarray after long feuding palestinian groups agree to form a unity government. The groups including hamas say they are l. Reconcile and form a unity pack within weeks. U. S. And israel condemn the deal coming just days for both sides to agree to a framework for peace. Breaking overnight. The food and Drug Administration set to propose the first regulations on ecigarettes. The agency wants to ban sales to anyone under age 18. Manufacturers would also have to report ingredients and produce Scientific Evidence before claiming ecigarettess are healthier than cigarettes. It would also cover pipe tobacco, cigars, and hookah which has managed to avoid regulation. See this . Whoops. Caught in the act. Oh, no, thats not ketchup from a hot dog. That was pine tar, friends. He was ejected in the second inning of last nights game against the rivals red sox. He had pine tar on his neck and we know that is against the rules. He did apologize for the incident. In fact, he t got quite emotional about it. He says it will not happen again. This isnt the first time its happened though. Two weeks ago cameras spotted pine tar on his pitching hand in another game against boston looking like hes pretty likely to face suspension. Quiet from the yankees sector from the desk. Apologize and say it wont happen again. Oops, i slipped. He was having a hard time holding on to the ball and he wanted to get a better grip on it. It wasnt malicious, he says. He says. The conditions were horrible. They were. It was a cold night. Many would argue that the game shouldnt have been played or cut the man gives no one any slack. However is that a man card violation right there . Trying to keep a straight face. Do it. Heres my only concern. Sell me on it. My only concern is this. Did we see the umpire actually touch the pine tar . Yes. No. Yes. He pointed at it. He touched it. I didnt see him touch it. I saw him go with a black glove and pointed at it. Did they test it . Just because this man decides to be what a yankee is, which is better than the game itself and just decides to jump on the grenade and say, fine, in the interest of having the game go on, we dont know that it was pine tar. In my best baseball experience, which we know is gigantic, not so best, pine tar has a distinct me smell, distinct touch, its very obvious, you do not need an analysis. You were poking me. I dont know that they tested the pine tar. I think the whole thing is under protest. We will leave it there. Wouldnt you like to know what the weather is like today . Lets get to chad myers in for indra petersons. Chris, youve got a Little Something right there. Its called egg. Three things going on today. Windy conditions. 7 Million People on the way of Severe Weather in the plains and more mountain snow here. Heavy rain they just dont need out there in the pacific northwest. That could cause more mudslide problems. Here are the wind gusts. Boston, 42 miles per hour. New york city, 23. That could slow down airplanes because you cant use all the runway it is you have to take off and land from the same runway or the same direction. Little rock, memphis, paducah, st. Louis, Severe Weather. Pleasant windy day i cross the northeast. Winds in new york city across the buildings through midtown could be howling at 40 miles per hour. Hang on to your hair. I was just thinking of that. Thanks, chad. Good thing mine is stitched in. Coming up on new day, weve waited to hear about the story from the stowaways point of view. Why did he do this . Were starting to get it. The father of the teenager is speaking out about why his son may have wanted to flee from home. And a doctor is going to explain how he could have survived in that wheel well subzero temperatures, very little oxygen. Almost never heard about this before. And still, we also have this ahead. 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And if you switch, you could save up to 423. Liberty Mutual Insurance responsibility. Whats your policy . Which will cause me to miss the end of the game. The x1 entertainment operating system lets your watch live tv anywhere. Can i watch it in Butterfly Valley . Sure. Can i watch it in glimmering lake . Yep. Here, too. What about the dark castle . You call that defense . come on [ female announcer ] watch live tv anywhere. The x1 entertainment operating system, only from xfinity. Welcome back to new day. The father of the 15yearold boy who flew from california to hawaii inside the wheel well of a 767 is speaking out. He said he was shocked when Hawaiian Police called to tell him he has his son and he said the teen may have fled home because he was having trouble at school. But its still not clear despite so many questions remaining, why he did it, how the boy survived the 5 1 2hour trip in freezing temperatures with very little oxygen. To discuss this further joining us is dr. John bookbar, a professor of neurosurgery at cornell. Doctor, its good to see you again. Good morning. We talked before. But to talk once again just about real lets one of those medical miracles that we probably wont fully understand unless you could actually see the patient. But to start off, talk to me about the affect on the body these two factors have. The assent, 38,000 feet. We have a point of comparison how high mt. Everest is to give you perspective. And also the temperatures that were talking about, the air temperature out there he could have been experiencing. There are really two main body functions that happen here in response to these altitudes. One is hypoxia where our body oxygen requirements are such that the oxygen is so thin that we develop the hypoxic state and the other is hypothermia where were above the mt. Everest where the cold air is really going to cause us hypoxic state. What would i experience if i was entering if i was suffering from hypoxia . As we enter this hypxic state all the body organs, meaning the heart here and obviously the brain up here, all of our blood is going to be shifted to those main organs. In fact, taking blood from the tremities, the fingers and toes, and putting it toward the main organs. Your body is adjusting to survive the condition. Absolutely. That is essential like a hibernative state. Any animal in deep cold will slow the metabolism of the heart and brain to save those organs. Thats the affect of same thing happening with the body does to react to the altitude, the lack of oxygen, and the low temperature . Both. Those are adaptive mechanisms that weve all adjusted to to keep us alive in those extreme states. So as you say, seems to be a medical miracle that he survived this and walked off the plane. Its not the first time weve heard of people surviving these extreme conditions, a couple of examples that i wanted to get your take on and how it actually worked. A woman, marcia page, survived a skiing accident. Fell off a 65foot cliff. She laid in the snow for 45 minutes at 6,000 feet. Her body temperature dropped to 90 degrees. When is it dangerous . How low when your body temperature reaches at what point is it going to be a problem . Thats whats amazing about this case. We dont know exactly how low his body temperature got. Great point. In these cases we do. We dont have an answer to exactly how low each individuals body temperature can go before these states become deadly. In these kinds of cases weve seen survival. As a surgeon we attempted to harness these adaptive mechanisms to kaep our patients alive sometimes. How do you do that . Well, for example, in a patient who has an injury or a stroke or a trauma, well actually lower the goid temperature to save the brain, the kidney, and the heart. Another case, theres an interesting procedure i wanted to get your take on. This man is 63 years old. He had no pulse for 30 minutes. He survived. His body temperature dropped to about 75 degrees. And they used a procedure to gently rewarm his blood and his organs because it would be such a shock to the system to do it quickly . Thats right. S theres a technique called the arctic sun which is unusual but we slowly warm the body to thaw the body when it gets to these temperatures. Again, were not going to stress this body that has been cooled so quickly. But warm the body slowly so we can preserve that heart and brain. Doctor, quickly, taking these examples of survivals aside and this 15yearold boy. What would be your biggest concerns of longterm effects. Well, this is the hard part to explain. And most of the medical community is scratching their heads about this particular case. Why did he walk an hour after landing after 5 1 2 hours in this hibernate tive state. That we cant explain because he technically should be comatose in a slow warming phase. Theres no frostbite, theres no evidence of damage. So because his neurological exam was so good an hour after surgery he may may make a complete recovery. Which is shocking because in these examples, neither of these examples walked away from what they were doing. They survived later but completely unconscious when they were found. Thank you for trying to help us explain this. Chris . All right, kate, lets take a break here. When we come back, better than the bluefin. No still sign of flight 370. Were going to introduce you to the powerful new technology. And crisis in ukraine is hitting close to home. An american journalist taken hostage. Prorussian mill tans are holding him saying hes a spy. So whats the u. S. Going to do to free him . Salesperson 1 so, again, throwing in the 1,000 fuel reward card is really what makes it like two deals in one. Salesperson 2 actually, getting a great car with 42 highway miles per gallon makes it like two deals in one. 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The x1 entertainment operating system lets your watch live tv anywhere. Can i watch it in Butterfly Valley . Sure. Can i watch it in glimmering lake . Yep. Here, too. What about the dark castle . You call that defense . come on [ female announcer ] watch live tv anywhere. The x1 entertainment operating system, only from xfinity. Welcome back to new day. Lets take a look at your headlines starting with breaking news. Three american volunteer doctors were killed during a shooting attack outside a Childrens Hospital in kabul after a Security Guard reportedly opened fire. Another american doctor was also shot but survived. The guard who is also wounded is currently in custody. President obama is in japan this morning attending a very formal state dinner with the p emper emperor. Russias involvement in ukraine. Promising new sanctions if mass codoesnt make changes. He also weighed in on the island dispute between japan and china saying the u. S. Would defend japan but urged both sides to resolve the longrunning dispute peacefully. A medal object of interest found wednesday on australias coast is not connected to flight 370. Meanwhile, the bluefin21 drone has scanned more than 90 of the underwater search zone. Still no sign of the missing jetliner. Officials are now planning the next phase of the mission which could feature sophisticated new equipment and an expanded search area. The death toll in the south korean ferry disaster rising yet again. 171 bodies have now been recovered with 131 other people still unaccounted for. The high school in a suburb of seoul which many victims attended resume classes today. Also the investigation is ramping up. A south korean lawmaker says renovations last year expanded the top deck of the ferry to make room for more than 100 additional passengers. Investigators aring looking at whether those modifications could have made it more likely to capsize. Chris, thats the very latest. Thats kind of a Big Development in that ferry. Theyre going to need to find out if that caused it to be unstable. Thats true. Thats a big question there. Well have to follow that. Lets get back to what were going to use to find this plane, flight 370. You know, i guess the question could be playfully, is it time to fire the bluefin, underwater drone scanning the indian ocean has completed more than 90 of the search. The question is better gear, too deep for the bluefin, is it are there other capability . Tushs out we have them. Lets go through the possibilities with david gallo. You know him. He understands this stuff very we well. The good news is there are other tools, right . Yeah. I dont know that were done with the bluefin. There may be other place wheres its applicable but well see. Main limitation is about its strength at depth, right . Yeah. So its deeper than theyre anticipating. Is it their fault . No if. This is unchartered bottom theyre dealing with here in the indian ocean. That leads us to the first other stronger tool its called the orion. Orion is a towed side scan sonar. Same kind of sensors as bluefin but towed behind a ship by a cable. The advantage is you get realtime information back from the bottom of the ocean top ship. You dont have to wait for the turn around for the vehicle to come back to the ship. And 14,000 feet or so for bluefin although it exceeded their expectations and this one can go to 20,000. Thats right. 6,000 meters which is about the deepest this place gets. When youre dealing with another mile plus down there. It gives you some reach. And any downside to using this one . Youre up off the seafloor quite a bit so you give up a lit bit of resolution. Its not hugging the see floor like bluefin does. That brings us to the next vehicle which is remiss, similar to bluefin. Tell us about the remis. Its an auv. The one we used to find air france 447. The beauty is that it hugs the t bottom. Hugs it. Hugs it. Runs incredibly precise line. If youre mowing the line, precise lines with accuracy. Downside, youve got to bring it back to the ship. Youve got to recharge it and download the data. Risk here is when you dont know what the bottom is, for sure, if youre hugging the bottom, you could bang into something. Always a risk. What we need here is some good maps, topographic charts. This one is ramora. What about that this. Its an rov, remotely operated vehicle. The beauty is that its, again, hooked up to the ship with a cable. Its not meant for search, its meant for detail work. High resolution cameras. We used it on titanic and 447. Its got manipulators if you want to recover something. Detailed work. Meaning what, slower . No, its meant to be not towed around but you work in one spot. On board that ship theres a control center where the pilot engineers on one side with several people. You can use a satellite to beam it back to land. You can drive it from the studio. Its going to sit in one place . I found the aircraft and lets start looking around and doing a forensic study. You dont use that one until you figured out where this thing is. Its not a search system, no. And the difference between autonomous underwater vehicle and remotely operated vehicle. Remotely operated means youve got a surface ship with a team on board and driving that with a joy stick. Autonomous is a drone, you turn it loose. It runs its mission and comes back. Reality check. Do you believe its about the tools right now . Well, its the tools, its the team, its the plan. So youve got to have those three things and y0u6 got to have luck, a little bit of prayer and off you go. Do you think the reason they havent found it so far is because of the bluefin . Weve been in this situation for air france, out there for months and people said it wasnt there and, guess what, it wasnt there. Its hard to say where the plane is. They could have missed it. I dont think so. Only time will tell. Still have faith in the pings . You know, thats the only thing we have to go on right now. If the pings arent real, we have no shred of evidence that plane is down here in this part of the ocean. Not a shred of evidence. Maybe the inmarsat. Do was have anything to believe that the pings were not leg legit . I dont. It sounded like the right frequency. We put an awful lot of eggs in that one basket. Thats true. A great counter to the question is, hey, if theres anybody who doesnt want to waste time looking in the wrong place, its these people. Theyre putting their loois on the line and their reputation. Early on the Ocean Community was saying show us the evidence before we deploy our people and our technology. All right. Kate, youre hearing david. You know, you got to have the right tools but team and tactics, just as important. Absolutely right. Coming up next on new day, an american journalist taken hostage in ukraine. Prorussian myly shah say hes a spy. Whats being done to rescue him . Our experts join us to discuss next. train horn vo wherever our trains go, the economy comes to life. Norfolk southern. One line, infinite possibilities. All stations come over to mithis is for real this time. Step seven point two one two. Verify and lock. Command is locked. Five seconds. Three, two, one. Standing by for capture. The most Innovative Software on the planet. Dragon is captured. Is connecting todays leading companies to places beyond it. Siemens. Answers. Hot breakfast options. Hampton, enjoy our free you did a great job. It looks good then fuel up with up to 9,000 hhonors bonus points on a long weekend stay. Make every stay more rewarding and feel the hamptonality. Welcome back to new day. Violence is growing in ukraine as troops there begin making a big push against the russians. Theyve regained control of a key building in the east and fended off an attack on a military unit. This comes though as the state department looks to both countries, ukraine and russia, to release an american reporter being held by a prorussian my l lish shah. Lets bring in james spider marks, former commanding general of the u. S. Army Intelligence Center the spi center. Spider, thanks for coming in. Lets talk about a war of words that flared up yet again overnight. Youve got the russian for written minister. Ing the finger at washington saying that washington is running the show, in his words, in kiev. Also saying that any attack on russian citizens in ukraine is going to be soeen as an attack n russia itself. Where is the geneva agreement . Kate, yeah, it is quite a mess. And United States is caught in the middle here. Clearly lets start with your very last point. Russian citizens in ukraine, first of all, ukraine is autonomous up until the point that russia annexed crimea. So how can you have russian citizens that are citizens of another country in ukraine with the rights and privileges associated with russia and not ukraine. So its a bit of a mix. I think were not us personally, but i think were mixing some language up and diplomatically weve got to straighten that out immediately. These are not russian citizens. These are ukrainian citizens with all the privileges associated with kiev. They are making the statement, spider, from them, perception seems to be more important than reality throughout this. Absolutely. Big problem. Yeah. The story line is completely mixed if other, i think, more important point is the government of kiev really is in a tough spot and we know that. We, United States, has been ineffective up until this point to include our friends in europe to help them out of this spot. What we need to do is apply pressure in kiev and say, look, youve got to get control of whats happening in Eastern Ukraine. And at the same time, the russians are saying to the United States, you need to tell kiev to apply pressure to get things controlled in Eastern Ukraine. This is a kiev issue. This is a ukrainian issue to try and gain control. United states has leverage and has some ability to influence the activities. And i would suggest that the very first thing the United States can do is to go to putin, can go to the foreign minister lavrov and say, look, its very provocative whats taking place in east ukraine. Lets be frank. Get rid of your troops that are north of the border of ukraine. Thats incredibly provocative right now. Whether you think you have all the rights to do that and they do, russia certainly can exercise its forces. That is a provocative step. If that went away and dispap peared for a while, this would bring the temperature down considerably. When you talk about the u. S. Needing to apply more pressure, overnight president obama, when he was asked about this whole situation, he said that more sanctions against russia are teed up and ready to go if russia does not move towards working through this, working through diplomatic means, through diplomatic channels. It doesnt seem that russia is ready to do that. Are sanctions enough . Do you think at this point . Im not also asking what other good option there is because there doesnt seem to be a good option here. The sanctions are a good option. The fact that sanctions additional sanctions are teed up is troubling in that that ball should already be down range. Okay. We should be very, very aggressively in a position where were, for lack of a more descriptive term, viscously attacking putin right in the pocket book and making them feel some incredible pain because the time limit is now truncated. Normally sanctions have a longer tail, i going to take time for the effects of those to be felt. Putin will react to pressure he sees and can feel right now. Thats a financial peace, thats a diplomatic peace, were working that. But that clearly is a military peace and were beginning to increase those pressures. I think what we could do additionally military is improve the navy attacks from the black sea and air force. These are all nato participants, not just the United States, and additional aircraft capability that could attack. And has a very clear message to putin that his actions are being watched, were monitoring, and we have the capability to respond militarily. Caught in the middle of all of this not only the people of ukraine having to live through this but also now you have reporters that are getting caught up in this. We have an american journalist, simon ostrovsky, detained by prorussian separatists. He has doggedly reported on this situation from the very beginning. Some of his reports weve highlighted on cnn air. What can or do you think should be done in this situation . Its unacceptable b that he would even be detained to be caught a lesson because he was being because hes doggedly reporting on a situation. What can the u. S. Do other than say we condemn it . Youre right, kate. Its absolutely unacceptable. Weve been down sadly this path before. Yes. So the United States clearly has to establish who is in control on the ground. That goes back to the issue of what is this interim government in kiev capable of doing. That needs to be sorted out immediately. And so the diplomatic channels of the United States is taking right now are the right ones which is tell us what the individual charges. What did he do that requires you now to impound him, to put him away . Why did you arrest this individual . What are the charges against the individual . How can we now address those . Again, you want to try to lower the temperature a little bit, get everybody to breathe through their nose. So this is not simply an additional piece of escalation but its descriptive of the turmoil and chaos as we try to sort it out in terms of our intelligence perspective. Do we really know who the actors are and can we differentiate and what can we do to share this information with kiev to help them through this problem . Clearly theyve got the lead in is sovereign territory for them. They have to be able to get their arms around it. And we have to be able to lean in and support it as best we can. Diffusing that situation, diffusing the situation at large, thats obviously the priority. How to do it, theres nos easy answer at this point. Major general, great to see you. Thank you. Thank you, kate. Of course. Chris . Coming up on new day, a slap in the face of the families. Indonesians have a report on flight 370 and theyre not sharing it. Why . Were going to speak with sarah bajc, the partner of a passenger leading the charge to get it released. At your ford dealer think . 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This is like salt in the wounds of already frustrated family members who have been beg for information from the malaysian government from the very beginning. Joining us now is sarah bajc, partner of philip wood, american on board mh370. Sarah, good to see you. I wish we had better information about what was going on. But lets deal with why we do not. Two pieces of news. The first, a preliminary report. This deals with recommendations Going Forward and not necessarily things specific to what we understand about the disappearance but could be relevant, could be interesting. Why what did they tell you about why they wont give it to people like you . We havent actually been given a reason why theyre not why we are not being given the report. But i find it fascinating that they seem to be choosing to treat us as if we are the enemy as opposed to an Interested Party in helping to solve this mystery. Now, youre very familiar with this part of the world. Youve lived there a while. You were moving to kuala lumpur during this. You know the culture. How much of this do you believe is cultural, resistance to being challenged, resistance to being expected to disclose things not on their own terms . I think a good deal of it is that. Its called face. We have to save face when we live in southeast asia. What will happen when youre in a daily cultural environment, if you back somebody in a corner they come out biting. So, you know, probably we need a fresh start here. For the most of this this case projecting progressing forward weve been sitting on opposite sides of the table. They have a briefing, they tell us what they know and we ask them questions. Thats just kind of broken. I think we need to start from scratch and sit down and have a positive dialogue. Theres a group of the families who have come together who are really developing as Leaders Within the group and we would like the chance to sit down and talk and have access to that report. Well sign confidentiality greens and maybe not release it to all families until we understand why they werent even allowed to be sent to us. Now, of course, the malaysians dont have the marked cornered when it comes to poor communication as a government entity. But it is becoming a little confusing. Thats why i ask the culture question because we also have it with indonesia. They say they have a report about what they were able to figure out about this flight. They, too, don want to release it publicly. It would be the assumption it would hurt a criminal investigation but we dont see the basis for that here thats a part anyway. What do you make of that one . Well, if indeed they have a report that contains such Sensitive Information that it would compromise an investigation then of course we could shee it. Thats all the more reason to see it, so that the investigation can move forward with foresight and concerted and qualified effort. So them just holding this little report to their chest doesnt really solve a problem at all, does it . And the idea of they had promised the malaysians, were going to have a team of experts. We will come to explain and understand why any idea about when thats going to happen . My guess is probably no time soon. Partly because im not sure they really have experts and if they do im not sure the experts have anything they can tell us. Realistically we continue necessarily believe theyre withholding any new information other than facts that weve already asked for. But we will continue to push and i think youre seeing a much more cancered family effort already. Youre having more and more different family members on cnn. Thank you very much for having all of these people interviewed, so you get a wellrounded story. And i hope that the investigators realize that they will get a lot farther, both in the investigation and in the public opinion, if they work with us instead of against us. Frankly, this is a main proposition of the job, right . One of the reasons that cnn goes there to a story like this is to be able to have presence and push for these types of things. It is unusual. This isnt just about driving narrative. Especially when it comes to these 26 questions. I have a copy of them that we keep on the desk. Im not i mean this with all due respect, i am not impressed by the questions. They dont seem acutetory or anything. A lot of them are factual information requestrequests. Any new guidance on whether or not they will answer any of them . Well, we are hope that they will. Again, we would like to be able to sit down with them and have a dialogue instead of going back and forth through the media really. But were also extending our reach now. There is a subset of questions including new ones that are much more technical that we will be bringing directly to boeing. Boeing has a Shareholders Meeting next week. And if were not getting information directly from Malaysian Airlines and from the malaysian government we might as well go directly back to the source. Boeing is a publicly traded company in the United States and this puts them in a position of a little bit more fiduciary responsibility. I understand that. Certainly they have certain disslow sure properties. As a company they will have different rules as well. Two main pressure points. One is pushing for the completeness of an open investigation that not only have specific relevance to 239 families and victims but overarching security concerns and the toll on the families. The worst thing for you all is indecision, is not knowing and the vulnerability of that. And i guess what im hearing from you and others is that every time its inconsistent it makes you hurt more because you really dont know where your loved one is. Fair . Thats very fair. And then its aggravated by the poor personal attention thats being paid to some of those family members that are genui genuinely hurting. We really just want the malaysian government to, you know, to walk their talking about this point. Im tired of them saying how much they care about our welfare and then really doing nothing about it. Well, sarah, we will remain committed to the story. When we can help, let us know. Thank you for coming on with us. I know its not an easy conversation for you to have. Thank you. So, while we have this going on on the malaysian side of the investigation, the search for the actual plane is continuing every minute right now and we will bring you the latest on that as well as the latest on the ferry disaster, the numbers will there are changing once again and in the wrong way. President obamas trip over seas is also ongoing. Whats happening with that. Lets get to all of it right now. We have prepared for the possibility of applying additional sanctions. The new sanctions by the u. S. On russia are ready to go. The bluefin21s mission nearly complete. Everything. Ed to this area. 14 have now been charged with abandoning the ship. Horrific images of a possible chlorine attack in syria. How did this 15yearold kid survive . The super cold probably threw his body into a state of almost hibernation. Good morning. Welcome to new day. Breaking news out of afghanistan. Three american volunteer doctors have been killed in an attack outside a Childrens Hospital in kabul. Another american also shot being treated for her wounds currently. The shooter reportedly a hospital Security Guard. Joining us now is cnns Barbara Starr. Barbara, what was this about . Well, chris, for those Americans Still trying to help in afghanistan in the pry va sect private sector this is a tragic incident. It looks like the three hospital workers were killed. The hospital is in downtown kabul. You saw the aftermath pictures right there. Killed by a hospital Security Guard. This is a Major Hospital in kabul that is run by a Nonprofit Organization. They have 100 beds and serve about 37,000 patients every year. So you can see the kind of Vital Services that this hospital provides to the people of kabul and the people of afghanistan who have so little trying to figure out what happened. Another incident where someone who workforce afghan Security Forces apparently is shot and killed. These people, we saw something similar just a few weeks ago in eastern afghanistan when an Afghan Security official shot and killed two american journalists. Just before that, also, a french journalist t shot and killed in a taliban attack. Kate . When you listen like that it seems to get worse and worse. Barbara starr, thank you so much. Thank you. Lets turn now to the latest on the search for flight 370. The bluefin21 is more than 90 done in scanning the focused search zone it was working on. The underwater drone is now in its 12th dive. Still no sign of the plane. And it turns out that metal object of interest found wednesday on australias west coast did not come from the missing jet, they say. Lets get to Erin Mclaughlin in perth, usaustralia. Erin, what does this all mean for the search . The search, of course, will go on, indicate. This is just one more that managed to disappoint the australian transport and Safety Bureau analyzed photographs of that object of interest which was discovered off the coast of australia. We managed to obtain the photographs as well. They showed pieces of metal, piece of me tall rather that is white and orange in coloration. Its easy to see how someone might mistake that for a piece of the plane but the ntsb saying on further analysis that those images are not, in fact, related to missing malaysian flight 370. Theyre not saying exactly what it is that was discovered but we understand it seems to be though that it was just another piece of garbage, another piece of sea garbage, the kind of garbage a that has managed to muddy the waters of this on going visual search of signs of debris. The spotlight really turning back to the bluefin21 and the underwater efforts. We understand as of this morning it was on its 12th dive having traversed 90 of the very narrowed search area, the area that they say is their best guess as to where the black box may be and with that ruled out, australian and malaysian authorities already considering next steps that we understand there in the process of hammering out an agreement possibly to broaden the search area and introduce more underwater submersibles into the mix. We understand that agreement is expected by the end of the week. Chris . Erin, ill take it. Thank you. Joining us now is cnn aviation analyst mary schiavo to discuss more. Mary, i hope you were able to get a look at that picture as well. Its the first time were seeing this object of interest. Obviously i am not a trained eye. Would it be easy to mistake that for debris . Sure, it was white in color and there are a number of rivets and a support structure uds underneath. So the white color of the rivets and the metal did point to something that could look like a piece of aircraft. The things that are giveaways that wasnt are the insulation and the color of the insulation. Aircraft insulation has three properties. Its thermal blanket, its moisture resistant and accusic. So this is not ive asian insulation. And the inside of the metal on the plane is usually a dirty green color. Like a graygreen kind of color. Sure looks like it on the outside. The rivets are a little too far apart for an aircraft wing but i could see why they would think it could be, sure. If theres a chance you might as well chase downey leads that you have at this point, right, mary . Absolutely. At this point i would encourage people, even like they did in adam air, encourage people with rewards to see if they can find aircraft parts. That might be some of the only leads we have Going Forward. That gets to the point i feel like were the discussion is moving towards, why not get the public more involved . Why not be more trans important with this entire not criminal investigation, no one wants to get the details of any criminal investigation. But to get more people involved in trying to find out what happened to the plane. That speaks directly to this preliminary report that was just submied to icao by malaysian officials. They chose not to make it public which is allowed but unusual. What h are the reasons to keep that confidential . They say it was to protect the investigation but thats really disingenuous because there have been thousands of air investigations by very accomplished nation, britain, france, australia, the United States. They follow the protocol with making the preliminary investigation public. Those countries have public sunshine hearings where we set forth the facts. A docket on the ntsb hearing is thousands of pages long where they make public all the information. At the ntsb hearing you can go forward and talk to the ntsb board and investigators and tell them, hey, i would like to know this or i like to have this question asked. They may not ask them but you have access. I think the public would be helpful, as cnn found out with the crowd sourcing project, the calls came flooding in for every pixel for every picture they put up on that crowd sourcing project. I think 30 pairs of eyes looked at it. Its so encouraging that the world cares as long as you give them a chance to help. Crowd sourcing has been effective in the past. The u. S. Navy has employed this in the past. I can ask the same question, why not do it . It sounds like theres not a good reason to not try it. Is there a downside to crowd sourcing . Too many people involved, too much noise to have to weed through . Well, there is a lot. As we found out there is a lot of people that send in a lot of suggestions. You can weed through them and look through them, but for the crowd sourcing it has been successful in the past. I dont see any reason why the public cant knows these facts. In a sense, were paying for it. Its the taxpayers around the world paying for this search. Excellent point i dont think has been hammered home enough, mary. On this preliminary report, in your past experience, what is in the prelim report . What could we have seen in it which were not going to unless they decide to release it . The preliminary report reads a lot like a police report. Its just the facts. It says on such and such a date, march 8th, you know, a plane was lost from radar. We have this information. We have that information. You know, the cause is not known. Its under investigation. It sets forth all the facts that are known. I suspect the reason theyre not releasing it is theyre not too sure of the facts. For example, the radar data from malaysia and doind neisha is deplorable. I think theres a huge lack of it is what theyre not wanting to come forth with. That preliminary report has to set forth the facts. I think a lot of facts are missing. At this late date in the investigation, thats bad. Saving face that they might be trying to do as the family members like sarah bajc, she suspects at this point. Mary, thanks so much. Chris . We know exactly where the sunken ferry ship is but the horrible question in that situation is where are 131 people . Many of them teens. Divers continue to bring more bodies to the surface. 171 people are now confirmed dead. Investigators are expanding their criminal investigation. They searched the offices of the shipping company that operated the ferry as well as the home of its reclusive billionaire owner. Cnns Nic Robertson is live in jindo, south korea. Nic . Yeah, chris, right now we got a standoff situation here on the harbor area. There are a group of families here not satisfied with the answers getting from government officials. They are surrounding the minister of maritime and fisheries. The chief of the Maritime Police and his deputy, these minister and Police Chiefs are not allowed to leave. The families for over an hour having asking questions. Theyre not satisfied with the search. We also here at cnn now heard from a south korean lawmaker who tells us something about t cap people the shape can take. The problem is, according to the lawmaker, this heightened the center of gravity on the ship making it potentially, potentially more liable for capsize. Also learned in the last few hours that another crew member is likely to face charges. That is 15 out of the 20 surviving crew members likely to face charges including deserting the ship. Chris . Harsh charges. Were going to have to see where it goes forward. Still cant understand why it happened. Nic, thanks for the reporting. We want to tell you about ugly reminders of the crossed red line in syria. Listen to this. There are reports the nation may be using chlorine gas against its own people including children. Could be the result of a loophole in the International Deal made last summer to eliminate syrias chemical weapons. Cnns alise is there with more. How could chlorine be an acceptable loophole . It wouldnt. Three years into syrias civil war policy is in shambles. One of the reasons is because all roads to damascus is through ma mosc moscow. Reporter signs the regime continue to gas its own people. Even as inspectors on the ground rid syria of the most deadly chem wall weapons, making a mockery of the u. S. russian deal which scuttled plans for American Military strikes. President obama pushed back against charges the latest attacks spelled diplomatic failure right now we have 87 of syrias chemical weapons have already been removed from syria. Thats as a consequence of u. S. Leadership. And the fact that we didnt have to fire a missile to get that accomplished is not a failure to uphold those international norms, its a success. Reporter but three years into syrias civil war peace talks between the opposition and regime are on ice. The humanitarian crisis is exploding and extremists are growing in strength. The u. S. Has looked to russia to rein in president assad. Instead, maoscow has blocked action and continues to arm the regime. Senator john kerry pointed the finger on late night tv. 150,000 people have been massacred. Atrocious things are going bon by this thing bashir assad. Reporter in an interview wednesday Sergei Lavrov said the u. S. Must share responsibility. Syria happened and they were elling us they still do. If only russia tells us go, everything would fall into place, its an absolute, i would say unrealistic approach. Reporter now with tensions over ukraine, u. S. Officials say what limited cooperation theyve been getting from russia is in jeopardy. That would pose a big dilemma from the u. S. About how to respond. After this attack is investigated if it turns out to be a gas attack at the hands of the regime, clear violation of that deal. Et cetera get more of your headlines. Starting with ukraine, forces with a major push back against prorussian separatists in the east. Theyve executed several operations leaving a number of militants dead and holding off an attack on a military unit. Now, russia isnt saiitting quietly. Russias foreign minister took a slap at the u. S. Saying it is behind the revolution in ukraine. President obama says he has more sanctions redifficult reday them if they cant. Nonviolent federal drug offenders to be eligible for early release. The Justice Department announcing it will consider recommending clemency for inmates serving ten years and would receive significantly lower prison terms today. This move is expected to generate tens of thousands of new clemency applications. 2,000 u. S. Army officers are losing their jobs. About 1500 captains and 500 majors being forced out by the end of the year because of budget cuts. This is part of the pentagons plan to shrink its force to preworld war ii levels. By the end of 2015 the army will have more than half a million active duty soldiers. Food and Drug Administration se set to propose regulations on ecigarettes. They would have to produce proof that ecigarettes are healthier than cigarettes as they claim. These would be the first regulations on ecigarettes. They certainly have risen in popularity. Huge jump in popularity. When i was flying overseas, they even say on planes overseas they were saying no ecigarettes. Not with a baby though. Oh, my ecigarette smoking . Yeah. I know you think its cool. The blue light, its so cute. Also, how can it not be bad for you . It is. Its highly addictive. Come on, any time you put something in your mouth and smoke comes out the other side. Logic tends to tell you. You dont have to be sanjay gupta to know. But you do play a doctor on tv. Thats true. Its the tie. Coming up next on new day, the fa there of the stowaway who went from california to hawaii is speaking out about why the teen fled. And we will look at how he was able to survive the deadly conditions with dr. Sanjay gupta. Inside politics, red hot this morning. Hillary clinton saying there is an army of women out there. The question is will they fight for her . Were going to examine it straight ahead. Hey so im looking at my bill, and my fico® Credit Scores on here. We give you your fico® score each month for free awesomesauce wow the only person i know that says that is. Lisa . Julie . at discover, we treat you like youd treat you. 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I was saying earlier you dont have to be sanjay gupta to know that cigarettes are bad for you but you do need to be you to explain this situation to me. Why isnt his skin frozen . How did he wealk away . It is a medical mystery and obviously theres not a lot of cases like this. We dont know for sure what exactly happened to him. One of the things thats important to point out is there are two competing forces on his body likely if he was in that wheel well when he was up at that altitude. He had lower oxygen as a result of the altitude. Lower oxygen available to his body. But also he may have been so cold, chris that it almost puts his body into like an animal hibernation. When youre in hibernation state you dont need as much oxygen. The body almost pro techs itself in a situation like this. He could have, you know, warmed up a little bit as he was coming back down. That could explain why his skin temperature wasnt so cold. But thats a theory, chris. This is one of these sent nar ros where the brain slows down, the body goes into a state of shock that allows it to survive . Thats right. And its interesting because the body will do this naturally in some ways. We do this in hospitals as well. Someone comes in with an cardiac arrest, for example. Theyre not getting enough on oxygenated blood to the body. You have two options. Get oxygen in the blood or slow down the bodys need for the oxygen. I profiled a woman a few years ago, chris, anna, she was skiing and she felt into a creek head first. Her heart stopped for three hours. She was 56 degrees when they measured her body temperature. Then they slowly rewarmed her, slowly, chris. Look at what happened to her heart. I just saw some little shivering and suddenly, suddenly it contracted. And there was a pulse, and a second contraction. Ahhh, everybody goes like that and we had really tearful eyes all of us because it was a moment of victory. Wow. They were slowly rewarming her heart, chris. Three hours without a heartbeat, 56 degrees. She made a full recovery. Shes now a radiologist in that very hospital where she was cared for. Thats amazing. The shivering, the body trying to warm itself up. In this situation, every other one weve heard about there is an obvious physical manifestation of the trauma. Here, the kid walks away. No burn marks on his arms. Does it make you think there has to be a variable right now that we dont know about, something was warm, he was somehow insulated, he had found his way into some different compartment . Yeah. Absolutely. I think that those would be much more logical assumptions. We havent heard that for sure. But if he were in that wheel well alone, is there a possibility he could have still survived . The answer seems to be yes. Again, based on what we know the medical science and previous cases like this. Something about it. Something about this that makes me think even in ones where its happened before like that really amazing one you just showed us of that woman with her heart. Theres been such obvious signs of this stress. You know, as opposed to this kid saying, i passed out. Then hes eating meatballs and Drinking Water and having cookies and walking around. Have you seen one where someone seemed to show so little sign of the distress . No. I guess thats a good point. Even with the women we just showed, she obviously had tremendous distress, Critical Care in the hospital, all of that. I agree, there is something about it. Could he have stayed warm in some way . Coming out of a state of hibernation like, this even if you do make a full recovery as you saw there, you still would have probably some signs of disorientation, physical manifestations. We dont know whats going to happen with him Going Forward. God willing, everything is okay. Its too soon to tell. Before i let you go, the work you did in africa was amazing and proof of why so many people turn to you. You took on a problem b thats not popular, its dangerous, and its spreading and you let us learn about eboli. Youre the best. Appreciate that, chris. Means a lot coming from you. Especially because i dont like you as you well know. You know its genuine. Thats why. Thats right. Thats why its so surprising. Kate . Coming up next on new day, the bluefins undert water search for flight 370 soon nearing its end with no success in this phase. So where does that leave the search if their leads were wrong here . And also, well go inside politics as president obama kicks off his fournation asia visit in japan, dealing with difficult trade talks, enjoying pretty expensive sushi. Look at this video. A little soccer with hondas amazing robot. Quiet mom has a headache had a headache but now, i dont. Excedrin is fast. In fact for some, relief starts in just 15 minutes. Excedrin. Headache. Gone. 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The bluefin21 is now scanned more than 90 of the underwater search zone with still no trace of the missing jet. Now, if the drone fails to find the plane officials are expected to expand the search area and bring in additional sophisticated equipment. Off the coast of south korea, divers diving treacherous currents. 171 bodies have been recovered. The ferry was expanded last year were told to make room for an additional 117 passengers. Investigators now looking into whether that may have made it more vulnerable to capsizing. Total of 15 crew members now, including the ferry captain, have been arrested. Russian president Vladimir Putin says ukraines use of military will have consequences. This comes as ukrainians have gone on the offensive. Pushing into areas prorussian forces have tried to plant their flag. President obamas warning more sanctions are at the ready. Those are your headlines, guys. That is not good. Politics words on one side. Threats of violence on the other. Obviously political implications going home abroad and at home. Lets get to inside politics on new day with john king. Good morning. Were going the pick up on that point, on the standoff with Vladimir Putin over ukraine. And with me this morning to share their reporting and insights, julian tha goldman. You just got back. Also listen to the president here. Hes traveling in asia now in a News Conference over night with the japanese prime minister. President obama making clear if russia doesnt back down and theres no indication it will, more sanctions are coming. We have been preparing for the prospect that were going to have to engage in further sanctions. Those are teed up. It requires some Technical Work and it also requires coordination with other countries. Teed up the president says. Obviously there is some work to put the language down and work with the european allies. Hillary clinton said yesterday she thinks the sanctions should be tightened and widened. First, lets start within the administration. Whats the argument between going to like full bore sanctions or gradually amping them up . Its clear the president they dont think is going to be a change in putins calculus. They have kind of been outgamed over the last week. Geneva, the accord last week really bout putin some time here. So, yes, it looks like this next round of sanctions will be within a matter of days. Year not talking weeks. Possibly by the end of this week. And then were probably looking at other rounds of sanctions and the big issue to look at is this threat of the seccer toial sanctions. Hitting russias gas industry, hitting the energy industry, the banking sector, thats where putin will really feel the pain because ultimately for him it comes down to his own stature in the world and that is based on russias economic standing. That is the process you just laid out if you understand the bureaucracy, thats months. They dont see any shortterm resolution here. You heard Hillary Clinton saying that the u. S. And europeans, its going to require some patience on their part. Peter do, you see any space between the former secretary of state and former boss, current president , you of office so shes free to use different language sometimes. The president has to say were coordinating, working, teed up but got work to do. She can say tighten and widen. Is that a difference or maybe the rhetoric is tougher . Hillary clinton isnt just a former secretary of state. Shes one of the most famous people ithe world and representative of the people of the United States to people around the world no matter what her position is. On this specific instance theres not a ton of daylight that were seeing. But, you know, she does choose her words carefully and the only time that i can remember so far that theres been a ton of daylight or shes caused a headache for the operation on the Foreign Policy front was when she made that holocaust comparison in a private fundraiser in california a few weeks ago. Shes fairly cautious. You say she chooses her words carefully. If you look on the conservative blogosphere and read it including we have show youen image from the drudge report. There have been a lot of conservatives and conservative suggesting that Hillary Clinton would be too old to run for president in 2016. Treading a little bit on dangerous ground here. In that same appearance last night she didnt reference herself directly but talked about age discrimination against women. A lot of women who drop out of the workforce in their late 20s and their 30s, they raise their children, you know, their brains have not atrophied. Their brains have not atrophied. Look, you know, in some ways you could say that had nothing to do with the krit criticism of her but shes very smart. Whether you like her or not. She understands, she pays attention. Wasnt an accident. She brought that up on her own. It wasnt part of the question and answer session. So sounds like shes sort of laying the groundwork, maybe not so soot ubtly. Im going to be kind, theyve had a huge crisis. Its worse than that. Trying to get the votes of anybody of color. Why would they risk now alienating older white women who are part of the Republican Base by saying Hillary Clinton is too old . We were talking about this before the show. The entire reason not the entire reason, much of the reason democrats have been so successful on the National Level is that the share of the white vote in this country is declining and democrats are absolutely cleaning up among the parts of the pop plagulation the growing, hispanics in particular. So, yeah, to your point, i dont think this is necessarily helpful thing for all conservative blogs to be flogging this, shes too old to be president thing. You know, i just dont think its good for them. My mom raised seven kids at home and went back into the workforce. Ill stay out of endorsing Hillary Clinton but a lot of women who raise their kids and go back to the workforce. Former secretary of state is dead right about that. Yesterday we had a laugh at jens expense over at stay t. State department. She was asked a technical question that was really a question about Hillary Clinton. W45 what was her response . Could you cite something good that happened at an oddity. She fumbled. She didnt have a good answer. Yesterday, she had a do over. And i wanted to just highlight, as an example of how effective this process was during the first term, what some of the examples of how were implementing it are. Too much so about this but cleanup on aisle four. Doing it with humor, too. Shesing are a little fun with it there. I just shows you how crazy p appetite is now, from supporters or detractors and ultimately her record at the state department and narrative is going to be defined by the book that she has coming out next monl. And also not by the internal review processes that this question was about but the asia pivot, iran, syria, the russian reset. To some extent i think a lot of the criticism republicans reason seizing on this trying to find every instance of hillary supporter or clinton herself not being able to identify what shes done in the state department but im not sure most americans could identify what any secretary of state has done and this is whats more interesting to me is just how this is any bold point here, how shes going to manage, you know, her relationship with the administration if she decides to run. Foreign policy is at the end of the day dictated by the white house. And how she answers for that over the next few years is going to be the intriguing reference. We will see some of that in the book that comes out in june. Warren buffett is one of the wealthiest individuals in the United States. Hes been helpful to the current president of the United States. Barack obama on a number of issues, Warren Buffett says raise taxes on me, the rich. He said lets expand the earned income tax credit. Listen here with cnns poppy harlow, Warren Buffett asked, should he help the president maybe raise the minimum wage . The real question is, are more people going to be better off, you know, if it is raised . I dont know the answer to that. Is that an im not an economist or im punting . Might be some of some punning and also saying to the administration, look, dont make this the buffett route like they did with the tax issue. Im not sure what his secretary would think about that. Remember the buffett rule from a few years ago, argued on the high taxes on the wealthy. The administration and b the democrats broadly realize that i have to keep their base motivated in this election. I sat down with mike of the political director at the aflcio, the big Labor Organization who said minimum wages should be what democrats should only be talking about in this election. But again, thats a labor guy. Warren buffett is a the divisio seeing right there. I know they are both soccer fans, as we go back to new york. President ial trips can be a grind. Look at the video here. President obama having a little bit of fun. This is hondas trademark robot. What do we think . Is he any good . I think hes pretty good. The robot is a better dancer than maybe the robot is at soccer. I think hes i think hes pretty good. Would you be able to beat a robot at soccer, john . Robot has a Little Spring in his step there. My knees might not be as flexible. Right, exactly. 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That area was calculated based on where the pings from the data recorders were last detected. Now, some are wondering if those calculations were correct and if experts should try again. David gallo is here, cnn analyst and director of special projects at woods hole oceanographic institute. Good morning. Good morning. Lets look at this. This is that object of interest. You are an expert at this kind of thing so i want you to look at this and tell me ill stay in my lane as a news anchor. Lacking any evidence and if this washed up on a beach in Western Australia it would get your attention. Its got the rivets. Looks like the skin of an airplane. You cant fault anyone for drawing attention to it. Mary schiavo said fiberglass connected to it doesnt point to it being right. You would have to know whats beneath that skin but from the outside this part would certainly get your attention. Again, theyre saying it is not connected. Right. Authorities are saying its not connected to flight 370. All right. Lets talk about the efforts, deep under water. We know weve talked about before in our oceanographic folks with talked about the currents and how the pings can be distorted under the ocean. Sure. Recap that for us for folks just tuning in. You have an underwater mountain like the zenith plateau south of the area theyre looking at. The scale is distorted because this is a couple of miles of ocean water a couple of miles. Yeah. This is a tiny ship way up there and this is a tiny vehicle hanging down by a long cable. This is also much bigger than it really is. This would be a tiny spec on this type of topography. So what were looking at is the sound emanating from here. Most people think the sound would come directly to the listening device but thats not true. This sound is bouncing off topography like this and getting bent around by ocean currents and ocean thermal structures so its got all different paths that the ocean is taking that sound. Many say the ocean does play tricks with sound. I think this gives us an idea. It occurred to me those currents change. So from one day to the next youre not going to have a consistent hour to hour. The ocean is constantly heating up and cooling down. The thermal structure is changing. It makes it challenging then if a ping is detected to know that its going to be the exact same place where its then detected again. Exactly right. Sure. I mean, the ideal circumstance is if youre in the same place youre going to hear it again. Thats not the way it works. Is there a way to test conditions so they can sort of get a game plan going . Yeah, i think many people think you can go out there and recreate that. You cant, can you . Right. So you can go to a laboratory and set up conditions where you have maybe say we have a piker at this depth and theres a mountain like this and then we have various let me get you to the drawing tool again. Various thermal structures. Layer of warm water here. You can do that on a computer and then make the sound happen and see what happens. Heres one of the challenges though. This topography is unfamiliar to us. We dont have this mapped in the south indian ocean. Yeah. That changes it for us. We dont know what were dealing with. If you know the topography you can model it better in a computer but not knowing it, you really dont know where all the valleys are or all the peaks and whats sediment, whats not. In terms of the folks theyre bringing in, we know theres an International Team being assembled. Its a specific type of expert thats going to understand this type of thing. Acoustic experts, especially underwater. Do you know if theyre involved in the team . I would imagine they are. Thats the kind of person you need, someone that understands the virm. Were looking back at the pings for a second. We know that youre instrumental in 447 air france. Right. We know there were no pings but there was surface debris and you know roughly where the plane was last. Sure. Even then searching in the wrong place. People said, you know, air france you had the debris. The debris, we had a whole team of people retrodrifting it. Where did it come from because that was going to be the center of the hay stack. They were fairly confident. Were pretty confident the plane in that box. We spent two months inside that box day after day, night after night that team was out there. Found nothing at the end of the two months. It does its difficult to rebound from that. So we could be searching in the wrong spot and its not unreasonable to shift it again then. Its very wouldnt surprise anyone to find out that these pings were not necessarily from the plane or they come up empty handed after this search. Do you think these are from the plane . You know, got to go by what the australians are telling us the ping rates were right, frequency is right. A lot of arrows point to this spot. Got to go with that. Its pretty much the only evident we have that the plane is in this part of the ocean. 10 left for the bluefin to search in this search area. Well see what they expand and what other tools they bring in. David gallo, a pleasure. Chris, kate . Michaela, thanks. Coming up next on new day, is pope francis breaking with catholic tradition . What he reportedly told a woman who is married to a divorced man. What she can do and what the vatican is saying about it. Live with the details straight ahead. Why relocating manufacturingpany to upstate new york . I tell people its for the climate. The conditions in new york state are great for business. New york is ranked 2 in the nation for new private sector job creation. And now its even better because theyve introduced startup new york dozens of taxfree zones where businesses pay no taxes for ten years. Youll get a warm welcome in the new new york. See if your business qualifies at startupny. Com sfuel reward card is really what makes it like two deals in one. Salesperson 2 actually, getting a great car with 42 highway miles per gallon makes it like two deals in one. Salesperson 1 point is theres never been a better time to buy a jetta tdi clean diesel. Avo during the first ever volkswagen tdi clean diesel event, get a great deal on a jetta tdi. It gets 42 highway miles per gallon. And get a 1,000 fuel reward card. Its like two deals in one. Volkswagen has the most tdi clean diesel models of any brand. Hurry in and get a 1,000 fuel reward card and 0. 9 apr for 60 months on tdi models. Welcome back. Pope francis continues to rattle the cage of the rye shows. Here is the situation. Hes on the phone with an argentine woman, one of the cold calls to catholics and reportedly told her she could receive communion if if shes married to a divorced man. Lets bring in delia gallagher, cnns vatican correspondent. Lets deal with the first part. Do we believe this report is accurate . Reporter well, chris, we know the vatican is confirming that a call was made. They will not discuss the details of the conversation which they say are private. So the report we have only from the woman who says that the pope said she was absolved of her sins and could, indeed, receive communion. The clever indication to me is that the vatican also said you cannot interpret anything that happened on the call as a comment about Church Teaching which to me is a suggestion that he may well have said it because the vatican doesnt like these type of departures. Tell us about what the rule is. If you are divorced or married to someone who has been divorced as opposed to annulled which is the catholic equivalent, what is the rule . Reporter the rule is if you are divorced, you can receive communion. If you are remarried, you cannot. If youre remarried, that relationship is considered adult rouse. Its based on various passages in the bible and on centuries of Church Teaching. Its a rule which is being debated at the van khan right now which is why the popes call is so significant because pope francis has already indicated he would like the cardinals to look at this issue and see how divorce and remarried catholics might be allowed to receive communion. But they havent pronounced on it yet. So the popes call is significant in that respect. So my understanding is at least locally, if youre divorced, even if youre not remarried you can be given a hard time and be counseled not to because it means being divorced which is technically not allowed, puts you in a state of grave sin. All of that is just dogma. What winds up mat terg is pope francis trying to move the bar of what is supposed to matter most in the faith. What kind of reaction are you getting on that score from the vatican . Well, what pope francis has said about the issue is that its a moment for mercy. He recognizes the difficulties of divorced catholics and of divorced and remarried catholics. He, in general, wants to be more inclusive. There are cardinals who are also in favor of looking at this issue. The problem, chris, is that its a centurys long theological issue. So theyve got to figure out what is going to be the rule if they are going to change it. Theyre set to discuss it in october at the vatican and again in 2015. So if there is any change in terms of this Church Teaching, we wont know about it really until 2015. My prediction is this may be the first example of pope francis actually making a change that is reflected in teaching. Because if his message is we have to be inclusive and be about mercy and love because thats jesus message, no better way to prove it than this. Let me ask you about this, the new canonization about Pope John Paul xxii and xxiii should be a big deal. How are those being received . Reporter a lot of anticipation. Were expecting millions of pilgrims to come to rome for this double canonization. Its a significant time because i think the pope is choosing these two particular popes to be cannonized together which is what he would like to model, john xxiii opened the second vatican counsel. Thats something pope francis saying hes the son of the church. He wants to be faithful to tradition but also be open to change. John paul ii got painted with that brush about the scandal and what he knew and didnt know. Always interesting to have a modern day person cannonized. It will be very interesting to see how its received Going Forward. Delia, thank you very much. I look forward to talking to you more about this as we go forward. Kate . Coming up next on new day, war of words. Russian president Vladimir Putin addressing attacks in Eastern Ukraine this morning and president obama saying more sanctioned are teed up. An update on the situation that has turned deadly when we return. 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Yp you wiryou will not beli officiap officials soffici murders. Were live with the latest. Final search. Australian and u. S. Teams almost done with the first underwater search area for flight 370 with no signs of the missing plane. Where do they move next . Were live with the latest. The fda taking a giant step to regulate e cigarettes as well as cigars and pipes. Our dr. Sanjay gupta joins us with what this means for americas health. Your new day continues right now. Good morning and welcome once again to new day. We have breaking news overnight. Three American Hospital workers have been killed in a shooting attack outside a Childrens Hospital in kabul. Another american was also shot, but survived. Were told the shooter was a hospital Security Guard. Lets get the very latest in this developing situation from pentagon correspondent Barbara Starr who has more. Reporter good morning, kate. The latest attack against americans trying to help in afghanistan. This is a Major Hospital run by a Nonprofit Organization in kabul. They have a number of hospitals around the world, actually. This is a 100bed hospital. They see 37,000 patients annually in afghanistan, especially focusing on women and children. These American Hospital workers were there to help, and today they say that someone who was a security officer, an afghan at the hospital grounds opened fire, killing three, wounlding one. It is believed some other personnel there also were wounded in the attack. Afghanistan right now is at a critical crossroads for the United States. 33,000 u. S. Troops still there, gone by the end of the year unless theres a new Security Agreement, and that all depends on in the next several days who might be announced as the next president of afghanistan. They have had elections there. Theyre going to have a runoff. It looks like it may be a man named abdullah abdullah, the former foreign minister, someone who may sign that Security Agreement and that will pave the way for the future of u. S. Troops in that very troubled country. Chris . Barbara, thank you for staying that on us. The president is saying hes ready to drop heavy economic sanctions on russia if they dont back off in ukraine. The threat has russia saying if that happens, they may use force. Lets start with Michelle Kosinski traveling with the president. Reporter we heard it directly from president obama that expanded u. S. Sanctions against russia are teed up, ready to go and apparently imminent. He says were looking at days, not weeks of this watching and waiting to see if russia will live up to what it said it would do, taking concrete steps to deescalate the situation. It would appear that has not happened in any regard. President obama has said he is not overly optimistic, not hopeful that that would happen. He even said it wouldnt take much at this point for russia to change course, even if it was just to stand up and commit to that agreement that it signed or called on militants to disarm and give up those buildings they seized inside ukraine. The president acknowledged as russia continues to blame ukraine for the situation that sanctions might not work, that they might not change the calculus at this point of russian president Vladimir Putin. All right, michelle. It seems that in the ukraine measures to deescalate seem to be doing the opposite. Ukrainians are on the offensive trying to retake buildings occupied by separatists. Lets get there. Cnns arwa damon has more from Eastern Ukraine. Arwa, whats the situation on the ground . Reporter well, early in the morning there was a move by pro russian militants to try to storm a military base that is either the largest arms depot in the country or one of them at the very least. That attack was repelled. At the same time the Ukrainian Military seems to be on the offensive for the first time, taking what seems to be a fairly significant measure and trying to taik down some of those prorussian checkpoints that are around the city of slavyansk. At least three of them have been destroyed, video images posted on social media and on various other outlets showing them up in flames. Not quite moving into the center of the city where the prorussian protesters have been holed up in various buildings. The Ukrainian Government trying to make good on its pledge on what it calls an Anti Terrorism application. Bear in mind in they filled ms. Rahbly at this the first time around. Russian president vladimir put tin say if ukrainians are moving against their own people, thats a very serious crime that could have grave consequences. Arwa damon on the ground for us in ukraine. We could be now hours from entering the next phase of the search for flight 370. The bluefin21 has scanned 90 of the focused area they said was their best chance and theres been no sign of wreckage. Also officials now confirm that this metal object of interest found on the australian coast is not from the missing plane as they had hoped. For more, lets discuss all the developments and bring in david soucie, cnn safety analyst, author of why planes crash and david marks. Good morning to both of you. David, we talk basically every day at this point about where we are and where were going. Now that they have about 90 of this area scanned, are you, as someone who has seen these searches unfold before, are you losing confidence in this search area . Not quite yet. Theres two directions i see this going. One is if they give up on the search area where the prescription are located and they say weve got to reevaluate. What that tells me is the pings they have, they have no confidence on whether the pings were coming from the aircraft. If, on the other hand, they start searching in the area of ping number one, which im surprised they didnt do in the first place if they really thought these pings were coming from the aircraft. Ping number one was the longest and most sustained period of time. What i would think is they would go there. The only reason they would dont that is because of the depth and equipment they have on board. Thats the two directions i would see it go. They either stay with the pings because they have confidence with the pings or if they retract it, it tells me they have no confidence in the pings and i would lose confidence as well. Lets talk about both of those avenues in a second. Spider, talking about where they are right now, 90 of the search area has been covered. What is the impact on the people involved in the search as this drags on . I know hopefully theyre inoculated from all the talk outside and all the outside pressure, but this has got to not only be exhausting, but also be frustrating. It is, on a very personal level, certainly very frustrating. You want to be able to have a successful outcome. You want to be able to see that your efforts are going to bear fruit, that theres going to be some motion moving forward and you can have some sort of resolution because theres such a personal face to this effort entirely. There are two things to consider. One is whats called the personnel tempo to your very point, kate. The purse tempo, how much can the individuals continue to stay on the job and not lose the edge. How do you sustain that over the course of time . Its been demonstrated for the last almost 50 days and how much can they do Going Forward . And the other piece of that is whats known as the operational tempo or the op tempo. That involves the equipment, the kit, what does the maintenance posture look like of all the efforts that are involved. So balancing both the purse tempo and the op tempo is what needs to be measured Going Forward before decisions are made in terms of what the sustained presence is going to look like which is really a collection, an intelligence collection effort which is on going. Obviously we need to see what direction they decide to take in this next phase before you can fully answer this question, spider. But from the perspective of the nations, do you put more assets at it or do you start thinking about pulling back or doing things in a more Cost Effective way . It seems harsh to think that way but nations at some point are going to have to. They are. Those calculations are taking place right now. There are three elements were talking about. One is cost which really is you can objectively lay this out, be very agnostic about it, what is the actual cost of committing to these resources, these personnel and these incredible technological enablers. The second thing is competing priorities. These are intelligence collectors that the United States uses. Those assets should be used to populate intelligence and collection back into our National Intelligence requirements and how those are taking place are not being done right now. The third certainly is the calculation, the human calculation and oush ability to be a good partner in all this which clearly we are, how can we sustain this presence moving forward . All good questions. David, when you were talking about the two different avenues, where they need to go next if this search doesnt pan out, if they lose faith in the pings, i assume you mean they need to go back and challenge all the assumptions and calculations that they made to this point. What major assumption do you challenge first . Which one do you think is the most questionable . Right now theyre in the tactical mode of operations. Theyre saying theres our strategy, were looking at this. Whenever the strategy is challenged. Whenever those tactical meth thots thods have failed and you give up on that, its two different strategies. One is you can go back to the previous decision, the prooef yus assumption that was made within the chain which is lets go back and look at the inmar sat data and see if we can reevaluate that. That adjustment has been done. I would think since theyve already gone back to that step and done that, the next thing to do is challenge the next assumption in line which is the malaysian radar data. The next thing i would challenge would be the malaysian radar data. Barring that, if that turns out to be questionable at any level, which it is in my mind because they dont know it was that aircraft. They know an aircraft took that route. So thats where i would challenge. Even before that, going all the way back to what i call white sheet strategy, white sheet planning which is where you start from the beginning and you just go with the facts, maam. Thats all you use and go forward with that. I hope that thats happening right now. Theres more to this operation than just being out there and doing. Investigation is 80 pfrs strategy, 10 20 tactics. You do the math. Dont ask me to do it. Something we could be learning from the preliminary report but they have not released that. Thats where we could get some of those facts. David, spider, thank you very much as always. Thanks, kate. Michaela. Lets take a look at another development. The fda is taking another stab at cracking down on e cigarettes. The agency is proposing the first regulations on the product. Age restriction, Greater Transparency among the priorities. Our chief medical correspondent dr. Sanjay gupta joining us from cnn center in atlanta. Lets move through some of the fro pose als first off. What are the guidelines. You would have thought fda had authority over e rigs. Theyve tried in the past. The age limit thing is a big one, they dont want this sold to people under 18. They have warning labels, and specifically about the concern of nicotine addiction. Thats what the warning label would say. The third one is a big one. The companies would have to register with the fda. The fda would have to approve these products before they go to market. Thats obviously something that would be a big deal. Look at the bottom one. They will no longer be able to distribute free samples. I think thats generally a pretty good idea no matter how you look at this. Also controlling some marketing plans as well. Why dont you talk about how these things work. Mr. Cuomo is getting heat from people online saying theyre safer, theyre safer. We dont know. This needs to be studied more. Thats a laudable thing to do. This is it. This is what an ecigarette is. You have a battery pack and a heating coil. This is the liquid nicotine. Once someone takes a puff, it activates the battery and the heating coil and you get this vapor which is essentially a heated nicotine. Youre getting the nicotine for sure. No one doubts that. The question is are there other chemicals youre inhaling as part of this and what do the chemicals do . This is uncharted territory. They dont know the answers to that and this is what they want to be able to figure out. Clearly already concerns about the addictive nature of it, and i guess theres also concerns that it could potentially lead you to smoke a real cigarette or is it the idea that people are using them to stop smoking real cigarettes. One of the claims is this can be a Smoking Cessation device. You use it like a nick teen patch. Maybe you can wean yourself off cigarettes altogether. Theyve made the claim but i dont think theyve proven it yet. Thats part of the regulation, if you make the claim, you to be able to substantiate the claim. This also is going to set some guidelines for pipes and cigars and hookahs. Thats the whole college thing. Thy thank you so much, sanjay, for breaking this down. Well be hearing more about the regulation of this and more studies. Dont forget to tune to in sanjay gupta m. D. Weekends saturday 4 30, sunday at 7 30 a. M. Eastern. Always good to have you with us. Up next on new day, malaysian officials confirm theyve completed a preliminary report on the disappearance of flight 370. Why do they refuse to release it publicly . [ female announcer ] f provokes lust. It elicits pride. Incites envy. And unleashes wrath. Temptation comes in many heartpounding forms. But only one letter. F. The performance marque from lexus. Welcome back to new day. The search for flight 370 has been marred by a lack of information and science. Malaysian authorities reportedly have data theyre keeping from the public and theres growing outcry from the family members involved and others to release it. To discuss it, u. S. Congressman eric swol low. Good to have you, congressman. The idea of government not being open is nothing new. We deal with it with you guys and in washington all the time. This does seem worthy of distinction. What do you make of the reluctance to answer the questions of the family, to release the preliminary report. What do you make of this. Time to open it up. As we approach month two with very few ideas about what happened, i think its time to open this up. We can crowdsource this information, bring in third parties to analyze the date and the try to give the families the best chance possible to know what truly happened to flight 370. Interesting point, congressman. As someone dealing with Homeland Security down there, they have this inmar sat data. Who knows that there arent better minds out there that could be applied to this situation and come up with something, right . We dont know if we dont release it. In our area of silicon valley, crowd sourcing is used to solve so many of the worlds problems. I think here, take out whatever is sensitive, but i dont think much is sensitive at this point. So release as much cockpit data as possible and lets have as many hands on deck to try to find the location of this plane. You think wed be having the same conversation. We dont ever want to be in that position. I would hope ntsb would be more receptive if we went this deep into a search with literally very few clues. I think the malaysian government owes to it the families to release this date tax open it up to the rest of the world. Lets get the best and brightest minds on it and lets move forward to try to narrow this search area. Theres bigger concerns here. Obviously we want closure for the families. Theres security concerns if we look all the way back. People who got on with bad passports, the idea that you cant track Something Like a plane that was used as a weapon against us in the United States. We still have to figure out how to fix the second one. On the passports, youre looking the Pass Registration right now. How are you going to do it . Thats right. I am calling on the home labd Security Committee and my colleagues in congress to ensure that the billion passengers each year who are not having their passports checked against the national lost and stolen passport database, that they do so. Right now only three countries check 100 of the passports. Thats unacceptable, especially with so many countries around the United States who have planes flying around our borders. We want to make sure for our own National Security that there are only screened passengers who have had their passports checked against the lost and stolen database on that flight. Do we check them . The united stets states does. We do, the uk. Does and the United Arab Emirates does. Beyond that theres not 100 checking. We need to bring the rest of the world up to speed. Im calling on ways to incentivize other countries to do it as soon as possible. When you point a finger at somebody else, you have four fingers pointing back at you. Here you have a 15yearold who hops a fence, hangs out on the tarmac for seven hours, sneaks on a plane and makes it to hawaii. You created an agency. Homeland security is supposed to be all about this. How does this happen . We focus so much on terminal security and Employee Entrance security, we seem to have not put as much emphasis on Perimeter Security. These airports are over 1,000 acres long. The vast land that we cover. 99 of the airport is its perimeter, not the gate area we all know as passengers. This case has highlighted that we need to do a better job of protecting airport perimeters. This is the fifth perimeter breechl over the last five years. Its not a coincidence. Its a problem. Im calling on tsa to have a nationwide assessment of all of our nations airports as far as what Perimeter Security looks like and what we can do to beef it up. Again, use technologies. This occurred in silicon valley. Silicon valley very well may have a Technology Solution for this. Im challenging them to step up, too, and give us some ideas on how we can better do this. San jose is the airport were talking about, obviously silicon vall valley. You dont have to be a big brain to figure out how to secure a fence. This keeps happening. Where is the failure of operation or priority . Again, were protecting an area that is approximately 800 football fields. So to have an airtight perimeter is really a challenge. But i do believe that in addition to fences with barbed wire and vehicle barriers, there is technology out there that can supplement the security that we have with eyes and ears around the perimeter. We cant put personnel every ten feet around a thousandacre airport. Fair point. But you may be leaning too heavily on the acreage. He jumps the fence. Ill give you the acreage on that. Noup he hangs out for seven hours. You nothing but personnel on the ground. Youve got security all over the place. They still didnt catch him. He went through layers of what should have been protection here. So it goes beyond just watching fence. And that may be the biggest problem, because the personnel on the ground are trained to look at anyone in a secured area. Their First Priority is to look and see if anyone in a secured area is wearing visible i. D. They do these trainings all the time across our nations airports. Part of the training is theyll have somebody walk through who does not have visible i. D. And theyll test the employees to see how long it takes to spot and identify that person. So this is something that should have been caught, and we had the opportunity. This person didnt just jump a fence and board the plane. He was there for six hours. That was a lost opportunity. Hopefully we dont also lose the opportunity to get accountability on it and some change. Hopefully that also applies to how we mandate equipment on jets to make sure they can be tracked just like our cars can, congressman. Thats another lesson that takes us back to the original story of flight 370. Congressman, thank you very much. Let us know how the effort with the passports go and the efforts to increase security that were discussing here this morning. Were happy to keep the story going. Thank you. Kate . Coming up next on new day, there is some Amazing Technology ready to go, if needed, and requested in the search for flight 370. What is it and could it bring them any closer to finding the plane . 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Australias defense minister said wednesday the next stage of the search may include more powerful side scan sonar. What kind of equipment could searchers bring in. David gallo is here, cnn analyst, director of special projects at woods hole oceanographics. And coled the search for france flight. Lets start with three options we have that could be brought in. We dont necessarily know, but these are some of the options that could be brought in the the bluefin isnt enough. First off we have this animation. This is the orion. Whats the difference . Its towed behind the ship. But you get realtime information back from it. With the bluefin and others like it, you have to send the vehicle to the bottom, it does its mission, comes back and then you see what the vehicle saw. Is the biggest advantage the realtime . Thats an advantage. Everything is a tradeoff. You get a bigger range. The tradeoff is resolution. This also goes pretty deep. All of this goes deeper than the bluefin. Everything will reach down to about 6,000 meters. Which might be one of the biggest challenges. The next one, this is the remus 6000. Its torpedo shaped. Made to do these precise long lines, it useless side scan sonar. Like the bluefin, you sent it to the bottom. Does it works and comes back up. We use three of those on the search for air france 447. Is there an advantage to the remus that the bluefin doesnt have, why you used it for air france . Air france we knew we might have to go to 6,000 meters. We started out with the remus that we developed at woods hole oceanographic. Could you use these in conjunction . Im hoping that probably thats going to be the solution that comes out of this, because theres so many different kinds of terrains, shallow, deep, rugged, smooth, that its going to be a combination of these vehicles, some from the same ship but others from a single ship. Would you say the biggest difference between the ream muss and the bluefin is just depth ability . A little bit about how we operated. We operate a bit differently than the bluefin people operated. Its the same category of robot. In the same family. Same family. The final one is the remora. We used it to pick up the black boxes. We used it on titanic. How is this different . This looks quite different. Its very different. Its not towed. Operated by cable from the surface ship. Its controlled by a pilot sitting on the ship. Its the coolest video game on earth. Youre getting realtime images. The first one where youre seeing live video images from the bottom of the ocean. Thats what this produces. If the search area is expanded out, if it becomes lets just guess and say 2x. As opposed to the more detailed search area. The terrain to the north, here we may be looking next is pretty baron. These places where it gets extremely rugged, but other places where its extremely flat. Im thinking the same thing. Im looking at all these different options, david. Why didnt they bring in the other options that can go deeper sooner . This is one of the cases where more is not necessarily better. They had the tactic which is they had the pinger locations. They were very close to the aircraft. One vehicle may pan out. That was the idea, throw the dart into the bullseye right off the bat. Would you suggest one of these over the other for what you know for the terrain which is very little . Im going to being a fan because we used it again. Its not just because its my home ins turks be you used it on titanic, air france 447. Ill go with the torpedo autonomous, ill go with the remus 6000. David, thank you for walking us through it. Its fascinating all this is out there. Coming up, the pleas of the flight 370 families seem to be falling on deaf ears. The question, why wont the government release the preliminary report. Well talk with a husband of a 370 passengers and push the issue . The father of the teen stowaway is speaking out for the first time. 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Com welcome back to new day. The on going search for flight 370 is undenybly hardest for the families of the passengers of course. After weeks and weeks of false leads, theres no sign of the missing jet, this as malaysian Authorities Say theyve completed a preliminary report about the disappearance of the flight but they have not released it publicly despite the demands of families. Joining usow to discuss from india is a man whose wife was on board flight 370. Thank you so much for joining us this morning. Were now nearing 50 days since the disappearance of the flight since the last time you spoke with your flight. You have two young sons. What do you tell them . How are you and they coping at this point . Basically my elder son he search for news. Hes following this on the news. My younger son, he has gone quiet. Hes not asking anything. When we Start Talking about flight 370, he falls silent. He hopes his mom to come back. He has many plans to do when mom comes back. What is your biggest question which is yet to be answered by malaysian authorities . My biggest question, as you said, were approaching 50 days and we have no single clue about the disappearance of the plane, no data shared with us. Therefore, there is a lot of big space for conspiracy theories and speculations. And what malaysian government is doing is theyre denying some conspiracy theories. Which have been circulated in media for the last 46 days. Theyre just denying. My question, why dont you prove or disprove those stories rather than just denying. Denying is not enough. They have to prove or disprove the theer read theories. We think theyre lying, continuously lying from day one. Its very hard to trust them. Do you think theyre searching in the right place . No. As far as now what we see, since they have not found anything, in spite of deploying so many spending so much time and money and so many days on the ocean, not a single thing. That tells us theyre not working in the right place. Pralhad, your 18th wedding anniversary is next month. You say you hold out hope. Do you hold out hope that youll be able to see your wife or what happened to her by that wedding anniversary . As i said, yes. I cannot think otherwise because i really wish that she comes back and we celebrate that day together again. That is i am here because of my children. I cannot think otherwise. And you will remain strong as you have for your children and for your wife. Pralhad shirsath, thank you so much. Well check in with you soon. 239 families in that situation, one of the reasons weve got to continue to monitor that story and push for answers. Coming up on new day, the father of a 15yearold who hid in a planes wheel well from california to hawaii is spoeakig out. Does he have any insight into how his kid survived . At your ford dealer think . They think about tires. And what theyve been through lately. 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He said his son may have fled home because of problems at school. This morning the california boy is still under evaluation in a hawaii hospital but seems to be fine. Here is cnns accokeek cofuj a cofujita. Reporter his father says he had no idea his teenage son hitched a ride to maui and survived a flight that could have killed him until he got a call from hawaii police. He yitd fid his son to the voa and described the moment he got the call. I was shocked, i wondered how my son went there, he says. The teens father says frustrations at school may have driven the 15yearold to run away, crawling inside the cramped quarters of a 767s wheel well to make that 2300 mile escape. He had a lot of education problems bothering him he tells the voa. He was not good at math and science. Airport officials in maui tell a different story. He indicated there was problems at home with his family and he left the home and headed to the airport. Reporter police say he told them he planned to fly to somalia to see his biological mother. Authorities believe he climbed into the wheel well of the first plane he saw. Despite all that, his father tells the voa his son was, quote, a cool boy, adding he thanks ala for saving him. Akiko fujita, los angeles. Lets turn now to the search for flight 370. We know the underwater search is nearing a critical deadline. If the bluefin doesnt find any sign of the aircraft soon, whats next . For an update on the search, lets bring in our meteorologist chad myers. Get to it. Ocean shield, sflit. The ocean shield is searching up here. I want to show you on google earth, and ill zoom right to it, how small this area truly is. When you look at it this way it looks like Shaquille Oneals bathtub. We know there are five ships in the search area. If the planes can get out of here its all part of the old system named jack. The cyclone. A cyclone there. Its dead now. Its just cloud cover, but enough cloud cover to maybe keem them on the ground. Thats it. Thats the little spot that were going to zoom in. Theres Shaquille Oneals bathtub. From top to bottom, were talking 18 miles. The difference is down here its about 13,000 feet deep. Up here its 18,000 feet deep. Remarkable dropoff from one side to the other. Here is the ocean shield and what its been doing for the past four days, a dot here, a dot here. It only gives us a ping about every four hours. We dont know what its doing in between. It circled around here for quite a while. 14 hours this thing went one mile. Were thinking, wow, did they find something . No, probably not. Because they dont even know if they find something until they bring it back up, download the data, put new batteries in and send it back in. Its not like theyre watching a video screen from up above and they say, wow, we see something. Not like they have other data that shows this might be a credible spot. Ill superimpose the pings, the passive system that found the first ping, the second ping, the third ping and the fourth ping, very close to where the pings are. This is why they were kind of covering around here, maybe doing a little bit of a better search here, a good search here. Again, we superimpose this, this is what its done. Here is where the pings are. About 16 miles from this ping to this ping which is a little bit hard to understand. Weve been told all along this thing is only going to ping about two or three miles. How do you go from 16 miles here to 16 miles here. Even if the pinger is here, thats eight miles this way. We talked to oceanographic people who say the acoustics get played with and toyed with under water with the currents, et cetera, et cetera. Talk to me about the ocean shield. How long can it stay at sea . We talked about this earlier, how exhausted these men and women must be out there. Give me some land. They have been out there 24 hours a day now for day after day after day. They have enough fuel. At some point in time theyre going to have to go and get some refreshed people. Theyve got to get fresh eyes on the area. Looking at all that data will wear off on you. They found the oishlgs it wasnt the right oil. This is where the search area is here. This is where the none thing was found yesterday. While were looking at this weather here, talk to me about that because we know what an issue weather can be early on in the search. We saw it with the remnants of jillian. We saw jack come through, a cyclone that was a concern. It skirted australia or the search area. I think jillian is probably the reason we havent found anything. If we didnt think about jillian when we were searching over here, jillian was right here, 160mileperhour cyclone. Were thinking dont worry about it. Its a thousand miles from where it must be. It wasnt 1,000 miles from those pings right there. All this, this area, they had 20 to 30foot swells. They had 160mileperhour winds going the opposite direction because were taking about the southern hemisphere. That just scattered the stuff everywhere. We know that if you get something thats floating, and all of a sudden you move it around at 160 miles per hour, it could fill up with water if it was an empty compartment, its going to sink to the bottom. Its a blender. Chad myers, always great to have you. Chris . Coming up on new day, proof it is never too late to try something new. A 102yearold finally goes 103 stories. How she got there . Thats the good stuff. Coming up. Yup. All five of you. Our clients need a lot of attention. Theres unlimited talk and text. Were working deals all day. You get 10 gigabytes of data to share. What about expansion potential . Add a line anytime for 15 bucks a month. Low dues. Great terms. Lets close. New at t mobile share value plans. Our best value plans ever for business. [ girl ] there are maneating sharks in every ocean. But we still swim. Every second, somewhere in the world, lightning strikes. But we still play in the rain. Poisonous snakes can be found in 49 of the 50 states, but we still go looking for adventure. A car can crash. A house can crumble. But we still drive. And love coming home. Because i think deep down we know. All the bad things that can happen in life. They cant stop us from making our lives. Good. So here is the yankees pitcher pineda. Theyre playing the sox. The ump comes out because he gets alerted by a rat that he has pine tar on. Hes got pine tar on his neck. Do you think hes surprised he got thrown out. Its pretty obvious. Hes playing dumb. Why do you use pine tar, better feel on the ball and the mass makes the ball move differently. Didnt someone used to put it behind theyre. By the way, we dont know that the red sox pitcher didnt have pine tar on. No. Second time this guy is alleged to have done it. He admitted it. They suspended him. It sucks. The funny thing s pine tar they throw you out of the game. The fact that performanceenhancing drugs are running r running rampant through the sport. Lets end on the good stuff chicago style. Ever since the sears tower was built in 1973, Willie Tillman wanted to go to the top. Back then it was the tallest building in the world and willie was 61. Now willis is 102. It hasnt stopped her from crossing it off her bucket list. Do you want to walk up or take the elevator. I think ill take the elevator. Its so high, willie needed oxygen. Thanks to a special program at her Senior Center that grants the wishes of its residence, willie finally going up to the top, 103 stories, just about one floor for every year shes been alive. Never been up this high. I didnt know you could see this much in the daytime. Oh, chicago. From up here its just overcrowded. Willie, not scared of heights, says she would sky dive if they let her. By the way, she aint done yet. Lots of fun. Great. I love it. Ill be back next year. Thats the key to living long, is loving life. God bless. You are the good stuff, young lady. Anyone who reaches 100, like my grandmother, is the good stuff. Great to have in the family. Good genes youve got there little one. Tonight be sure to watch the Series Finale of chicagoland. It airs at 10 00 p. M. Eastern, 9 00 center. The news continues with newsroom newsroom and carol costello. Have a great day. Newsroom starts now. Happening in the newsroom. The bluefin21 mission almost complete. As of this morning completing its 12th mission, having traversed 90 of that very narrowed search area. Still no sign of flight 370. We must try to explore all possible options. The u. S. Is teeing up another round of sanctions. President obama doubling down on sanctions. We continue to see