Police deployed in riot gear, concerned about the possibility of violence. And there is trump inside the convention hall, were learning of trumps strategy to fight Hillary Clinton in the general election, a strategy that includes challenging her in california. A state that hasnt voted for a republican president since 1988. Trump claims this year will be different. No other republican lets say ted cruz won or lets say any one of them won. They wouldnt even come here for dinner. Because they are told that as a republican, you have zero chance, okay . I really were going to win it. I think we have a real chance to win it. And you know what, i sri view it strategically also. Because if we dont win it, they are going to spend one hell of a fortune in fighting me off. Sara murray outfront want to in san diego. They have been gathering for hours now. More than 1,000. Those are big numbers. Reporter they are big numbers, jim. And for a lot of the day, it was relatively nonviolent. They had protesters out there singing, dancing, they were chanting. But there was a tense moment when protesters tried to breach a Police Barricade and saw them interacting with the police. The police trying to push them back. And the San Diego Police department has tweeted there has been one arrest, and our producers and reporters outside did see one protester taken away in handcuffs. And this tends to be a more tense moment right now, jim, because you have the donald trump fans leaving this event. Were going to be passing the protesters, and the police are taking pains to ensure there is a large buffer between the protesters and those Trump Supporters who are exiting. Obviously, they want to avoid any conflicts they can. Were seeing some of them waving a mexican flag there. So what of the political strategy now . Trump says he can put california in play in a general election. We know thats a tall order. Is that realistic, or is this about making the democrats spend money there . Reporter well, a tall order seems like an understatement, jim. Donald trump did float the idea if he can just get democrats to spend money in california, maybe that would be a victory for him. But as for actually winning the state, like you said, no republican has won california since 1988. This is a state that president obama won by more than 20 points. And its a kind of state where if you were playing to win, you would need to put some kind of infrastructure in place. And thats one thing we have not seen from the Trump Campaign, even though donald trump has said hes going to put 15 different states in play, hes going to play in places that republicans have not played in the past. What we have seen is, he doesnt even really have a robust staff presence in some of these traditional Battle Ground states. Places like ohio, places like florida. Places where you would expect a campaign to be building out, the Trump Campaign really lagged behind on that front. So theyre really going to have to get up to speed and build out far beyond that if theyre helping to play ball in states democrats have won for many years, jim. California just one of the states on trumps proposed victory map. What im going to do is, i want to focus on 15 or so states. Because we have to win. And i want my energy to be put in the states where it could go either way. Tom foreman outfront tonight. Tom, how does the Trump Campaign say theyre going to make this strategy work in the general . Reporter well, as sara hinted, jim, probably not on the west koechlt. If you think about it, washington, oregon, california, have all reliably voted democrat since the early 1990s. And look at the overall map here, as the polls and past performance suggests its going to be. You see a lot of red out there for the republicans, blue for democrats. Yellow for the battleground states. The democrats mathematically have an advantage, because a lot of blue states have very big populations, lots of electoral votes. So when he talks about these 15, what is he talking about . Well, he could very well be talking about these states, based on his comments. And heres an example. Lets talk about new mexico, for example. This is right down here, on the border. Its one he has been talking about for some time. And thats why he thinks it might have some traction for him. He thinks it stands on the border, could assure people there theyre going to somehow cut down on drug traffic, theyre going to cut down on job loss. Theyre going to feel more secure. So he thinks that might give him traction. He might tilt the state thats been going blue back to the red column. Lets go up toward the rust belt. And were going to define the rust belt in a very broad sense, all the way from the midwest over here to the east coast. Basically, every place where there has been a strong blue collar presence in that general region there. He thinks he has a chance up here, because first of all, as youll note, there are several yellow battleground states in there he can tie together. Secondly, he thinks even in some of the blue states, there could be trade deal backlash. People who feel that Hillary Clinton was tied to trade deals they think sent their jobs overseas. And lastly, it doesnt hurt his home state of new york will not really part of the rust belt, at least sort of tied to it, and could help knit all of this together in a confederacy that might help him with all of those votes up there. This is the thing, though. Stringing all of this together, jim, seems like a fine idea if youre hoping to win that way. But that strategy can count both ways. For example, Hillary Clinton could hit him in georgia down here. Which has been a red state that has shown some signs of maybe tipping some. She could hit him over here in arizona and that would force him to defend places that right now he may not think he has to. Its going to get very complicate and the chess moves all over the place, jim. No question, tom foreman, thanks very much. We have a great panel outfront tonight. Hillary clinton supporter, bernard whitman. Sally cohen. The co chair of Donald Trumps campaign here in new york, joseph ba reliy. Former rnc communications director, doug hy, and erin he will more. Doug, you look at the 50 states, can he really change the map . Maybe in some places he can change the map. California is not where it starts. I worked at the california congressional delegations for six and a half years. Ran a race out there, worked on others. Hes got some challenges there and some challenges that arent just trumps challenges. Its where do you win, what counties are you driving up the vote. Is that in the central valley, are you trying to do so in san diego . And then how . What strategy are you using . And some of this is what sara talked about. And then with who . Its a weak state party. The conservative activists have fallen in recent years. There is not a lot there to build for trump to really get there. Joe, you heard sara murray talking about the organization he lacks in these states. How can he pull off this strategy if he doesnt have the staff on the ground . I think a big picture, hes trying to flip the script. Someone who has done more with less money spent, less staff. And we see him winning in a lot of states in the primary. Essentially, this puts Hillary Clinton on the defensive. She is someone that never expected to have to even consider defending california. A big state, a lot of electoral votes. Now with just some rallies, with just some social media, with some earned regular media, he would potentially challenge her there. Buck, do you buy that . I think that trump has been able to do a lot of things that everybody thought he couldnt. I think that going after new york and going after california are more a rhetorical play than a play to actually win those states. Because it is just a way of him saying, look, were going after everything, changing the entire narrative here, and i dont think hes going to win either of those states. But i do think that in places like michigan, wisconsin, places where he will be competitive or at least it looks like hell be competitive, saying hes going after the democrats on their home turf plays into the trump narrative, which is im just a lean, mean, winning machine and thats what hes trying to get across. Bernard, does the Clinton Campaign look at this and get worried . No, i dont think so at all. This is a classic fake. I think that donald trump would stretch himself so thin that he would actually crack. The idea that he could put california and new york in play is absurd. In fact, i think theres a lot more concern about his winning arizona and georgia, and if i were advising him, i would say spend your time in michigan and ohio and pennsylvania and wisconsin. Hes got to win single state that john mccain won, plus some. Dont forget, these guys both lost. Currently hes underperforming. Both of those guys among whites, hispanics, women. Hes got a tall order cut out for him. I think this is brag doesh oat its best. I see you nodding your head, sally and smiling. I mean, yeah. Look, and i am i am constantly pointing out to certainly my side, you know, of the Democratic Left and america. That donald trump can win, it is possible. We shouldnt sort of rest on our laurels. But, yeah. This is sort of classic trump. And we all know whomever the nominee is on the democratic side versus trump, this is going to play out in the rust belt, in four states. Thats what its going to come down to. Which, by the way, is a travesty that american politics and elections always come down to just a few states mattering more than the rest. But there you have it. The rest is just talk. So erin, i want to ask you, were still seeing pictures, enormous protester presence outside the donald trump rally. I want to play some sound of both trump and sanders, what they have said at events when violence has happened. Lets have a listen. Welcome to the Political Revolution the guards are very gentle. Hes walking out with big high fives, smiling laughing. I would like to punch him in the face. We need a Political Revolution where millions of people stand up, fight back, and create a government that works for all of us. So i was rough with him. And i started screaming. I said, get the hell out of here erin, is donald trump partly to blame for the kind of violence we have seen outside his rallies . Certainly not. Hes not inciting violence. These are certain, you know, little little tidbits of information taken out of context, as well. I think bernie is just as responsible saying we need to spark a revolution. So i think these are bernies people getting out there, sort of the occupy wall street movement, getting aggressive. I want to get to you, sally. If Bernie Sanders is just as responsible, youre admitting that donald trump is also partially responsible. Anybody who is setting fires or throwing rocks at police should be thrown in jail. But when we have candidates who are saying, punch somebody, ill pay your legal bills or welcome to the revolution, with your contributing to this atmosphere of ugliness. Sally . Im sorry. Thats just absurd. Bernie Sanders Campaign is based on an opposition to the sort of hawkish pro war sort of it is a passivist driven movement. He has very clearly denounce violence. And to say revolution, come on. Then everyone that tea party has been inciting violence too. Lets be clear. Donald trump has encouraged and incited people to be violent saying i want to punch people in the face myself and ill pay your legal fees and his rhetoric based on violence against mexicans and muslims and just like not responsible for the violence of his people that are protesting in his name. It is interesting those elements of the left like to show up in places and break stuff and wave mexican flags. When you look and see what the american left have devolved into, you have people that act in this hysterical fashion. I blame people that think bernty is going to create a Political Revolution. There are 1,000 people in san diego. Democrats saying that these are just a few Rotten Tomatoes in the crowd when one not job at a trump rally punches someone. That is donald trump from the stage to punch protesters in the face. Bernies condemnations in vegas we have to leave it there. Thankfully no, punches here, at least tonight. Thanks very much. Were going to have them back. 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They were yelling usa, usa, shouting, getting into this with each other. All sorts of different things. And as we said, there have been some arrests. I dont know if theyre detaining this person, because this is a clear arrest just getting to the other side. They let him go. Theyre trying to separate the Trump Supporters from the anti trump demonstrators. And they had made some major moves with barricades and with police in riot gear. Of at some point, they were separated by hundreds of yards. But as they came out of the center on the streets of san diego, where right outside the history yak gaslamp district, thats where we had the standoff, the skirmishes between both sides. And they have been yelling at each other. We saw some punches thrown, two or three. But basically, we have not seen a large amount of arrests, just all the shouting going on right now. Thanks very much, our Paul Vercammen, there live in san diego. Youre seeing him there in the midst of what are becoming violent protests there, potentially violent protests. As youre watching this, doug, formerly with the rnc, basically seeing this as every event now. Every event. Were hearing the words, as paul said, punches thrown. Were seeing this time after time. And its why the committee is so concerned about what were going to see in philadelphia, as well. This is happening on both sides. A lot of anger on both sides, deserves to be a lot of anger at washington from both sides. But its why both committees are scared about some of the security procedures that well see at the convention. Erin, i have to ask you, does this damage trump as a candidate . If if people see consistently that he engenders this kind of response from people . We already know that nothing donald trump does or anything around him causes any sort of change. Ive always called him the teflon don and thats true. No matter what he says or does, his voters are coming out and right now he and hillary neck and neck. So nothing really matters. Lets be frank. In the primary process, different set of voters. As we get into the general, sally, bernard . It does matter. This is absolutely outrageous. And donald trump needs to get out there and say, you know what, peaceful protests are fine. There is nothing wrong with that. I totally respect peoples voice to voice their opinions. But my supporters should calm down, be civil, respect one another. But you know what, were never going to hear that because that is not in his interest. Oh, my gosh, it turns out owe thats so interesting. Youre saying the punks were thrown but youre going to assume which side theyre from. I misrepresent i really resent the mischaracterization of this. We have so far heard 1,000 people protesting peacefully all day. One arrest and violence may be happen. Lets be clear. The police have to separate them. And thats but them, both sides. And by the way, we in the media really love when this stuff gets ugly. Because we want to cover it more. People out there, exercising their civil and constitutional right to object is important and significant. God bless them all. I hope that the protesters on both sides stay peaceful. But yes, this is important. Of people need to see this. If trump is sucking up the media oxygen, this is the only way for people to be heard. Donald trump at a rally two days ago when someone was removed, a protester removed, and he said dont hurt him and then he made a comment saying, i just say that for the television cameras. Kind of i think the media always overplay whatever he says. Im coating the candidate here. Lets remember what went on outside the rally where you had shamefully so many protesters from the left, assaulting police officers, throwing bottles, throwing rocks. Honestly, if they were my supporters, i would be ashamed of myself. And i think they have to own it. They are they wearing Bernie Sanders tshirts . This is a distinction that i think should be made. Yeah, i would like it too, honestly, if it trump would come out and say everybody behave. I think he started to do that and should do more of that. But on the left, you see people who actually think they should be able to shut down trump rallies. They absolutely think its their right to say that trump is beyond the pail. He is the nominee for the gop. Why is it is it too much to ask, doug, for the presumptive gop nominee to make a statement, saying, i dont want to see violence . Absolutely. It should be common sense for him to do it. It should be common sense for Bernie Sanders to be more declarative than the obvious disgrace in nevada. No hands are clean here. Why is donald trump responsible at all for people protesting his rallies . Because he has incited it and encouraged it. He is a candidate for office, expressing his views. Hes running for the president. And you know what, im sorry, but the list of things i have to talk to my 7yearold about to not emulate in the potential possible future president of this country is getting a little too long. You want to draw analogies between the protests and trump, fine, youre free to do that. Theyre not running tore president , he is. And stop stoking this kind of violence and hatred in this country. Erin. I can control my 3yearold. How do we expect donald trump to control adults by the millions . I want him to control himself and be a better role model. How its not just going to happen. He isnt capable of telling people how to act and making them act. When you start to become violent, thats when the leaders of the two parties have to come out and say, you know what, this is unacceptable. We need to have civil discourse, express yourself freely. But when it comes to shoutsing people down, or even worse, throwing punches, that is absolutely unacceptable. Youre saying both parties have a responsibility. Both parties. I was actually incredibly frustrated with Bernie Sanders. He lost respect and support. People said hes basically a good guy. He actually waffled on coming down hard. Democrats are the ones that have actually had protest moments or people that are engaged in protest movements and the media has to say its mostly peaceful except for people burning down buildings or throwing rocks at police or doing other things that are violent and illegal. Those are always people i do want to ask this. Is that anger we see out in the streets and these are again live pictures here. Does that reflect just the broader state of mind right now of voters on both sides . When donald trump began his campaign by suggesting that mexicans are all rapists and murderers, what do you expect supporters to do . Go out and take matters into their own hands. Thats what my concern is, and when you couple that with his support for allowing people to carry guns in churches and colleges and Office Buildings and restaurants. My god. That is a crazy this is not this is not a civil candidate. His discourse, his message, what he wants to do to massive parts of this country is not civil. I would like to see the protesters to be honest, be infinitely more peaceful because their greatest power is in contrast to the violence we have seen. Folks, great discussion on that. Again, were going to keep you around. Thanks very much. And just a reminder to our viewers, were showing live pictures of protests outside a trump rally in san diego and a huge police presence. Well say on top of this. Outfront next, a trump sanders debate. What trump is saying about that tonight. And new details in the search for the missing egyptair flight 804. Tonight investigators zeroing in on what they believe could be the planes location. Safety doesnt come in a box. 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You know, i hope that he changes his mind again. I mean, mr. Trump is known to change his mind many times in a day. And i would, you know trump goes around and hes a bully. Hes a big, tough guy. Well, mr. Trump, what are you afraid of . Why do you not want to see a debate here in california and obviously all across this country . The back and forth between trump and sanders leaving Hillary Clinton high and dry . Scott mclain is outfront. Reporter Hillary Clinton says the democratic primary is all but over. But dont tell Bernie Sanders that. We can win here in california. And we can come out with the democratic nomination. Reporter as new poll numbers show clinton and sanders now in a dead heat in california, sanders continues to make the case that he has a better shot of winning in november. If we win the democratic nomination, were going to defeat donald trump, not only are we going to defeat him, were going to defeat him very badly. Reporter clinton continues fighting for votes in california. Today speaking to Community Leaders in oakland, and hitting the airwaves with ads in english and spanish. While hitting trump at rallies. Send a message to a demag demagogic, retorically divisive candidate that when you think about the future you dont see Donald Trumps face up there. Reporter on the verge of clinching the nomination, Hillary Clinton trying to shift her focus to the general election. Donald trump is an unqualified loose cannon who cannot get near the most powerful job in the world. Reporter but sanders is not making that easy. On jimmy kimmel last night, sanders called out clintons comments to cnn earlier this month she had the nomination wrapped up. Just arrogance. I think on june 7th people of california will have a message for secretary clinton. Reporter clinton has declined to debate sanders in california, so instead he is has challenged trump. Sanders said two networks offered to host the debate but trump backed out, saying in a statement, as much as i want to debate Bernie Sanders, and it would be an easy payday, i will wait to debate the firstplace finisher in the democratic party. Probably crooked Hillary Clinton or whoever it may be. I hope he changes his might be again. Mr. Trump is known to change his mind many times in a day. And i would, you know trump goes around and hes a bully. Hes a big, tough guy. Well, mr. Trump, what are you afraid of . Reporter and this afternoon, sanders sent out another statement about this debate proposal, saying he hopes trump will change his mind. Now while Bernie Sanders doesnt want to let this idea go, a lot of democrats wish that he would. West virginia senator joe manchin called it bs he continues to push this debate. My panel is back with me now. Ber, you heard sanders calling Hillary Clinton arrogant there. Fair criticism . No. You know, to quote al gore, facts are stubborn things. This nomination process is finished. Shes 3 million votes ahead, 800 delegates ahead without even superdelegates, almost 3 million delegates ahead. 55 of the vote. Shes won 27 contests. Compared to eight years ago, against barack obama, that race was razorthin. I mean, yes, california and new mexico. The contest is over and he should exit the stage gracefully like ted cruz. I wonder if you have a slight different opinion on that. They should vote and two candidates to choose between. Its just not over yet. And yes, i will admit, that the math looks hard for Bernie Sanders. But it is also more it is still telling for Hillary Clinton that at this point she cant put it away against him. And is by the way, still use for the democratic roz that again it is nice the democrats are talking about substance, talking about the economy. And Foreign Policy. And trade policy. And having that discussion, and it is good clarifying process for america and for the future of the democratic party. I have to ask you on this debate idea, which donald trump has put to rest today. But he had said it was a dream, would have been a dream to debate him. Lets start here. Something that was started on a comedy show, jimmy kimmel, like Hillary Clinton saying that beyonce was going to be her Vice President ial pick. I dont think it would have done anything to benefit donald trump. And as far as Bernie Sanders goes, he should be more concerned that Hillary Clinton, who he is in a dead heat with in california, is refusing to debate him, despite promising to do so when they set out the agenda for the debates. I want to go back to their point. Hillary clinton seems delusional now if she thinks this race is over and acting as though she won the nomination race. I will agree with sally on this. Dont get too excited. She has he said a tinge of arrogance and hes right. They are obviously from different parties, sanders and trump. But a lot of positions are very similar. Were going to play a few comments back and forth. Were not going to cut social security. I will do everything within my power not to touch social security. Bushs decision to get us into a war in iraq unilaterally was one of the worst Foreign Policy blunders in the history of the united states. Obviously, the war in iraq was a big fat mistake. We need a serious discussion about the role of superdelegates. Clearly, the Current Situation is undemocratic. Hundreds of delegates ahead. But the system, folks, is rigged. Is trump missing an opportunity here to win over some independents . Well, i think that he wants to make sure everyone knows hes the front runner for the gop. He is the come nominee, rather. And only going to debate whoever he has to on the democrat side. So thats oft obvious. I do think he will try as part of his strategy to win over bernie supporters. I dont think its absolutely baked in the cake that everybody who supports Bernie Sanders will march in lockstep with Hillary Clinton. There is some crossover between some of the positions on trade and workers and Manufacturing Base with Bernie Sanders. And so its he is not going to do it. He obviously i dont think he was ever going to do it. But we will see this return to can trump pull over democrat voters. And if hes going to do that. Its going to be people from the bernie side, not from obviously the whats his message . Erin, whats his message going to be to those voters to draw them into his camp . Anti establishment. I am not the norm. I have completely swung the pendulum the other way, come to my side, youre going to see change. Even now republicans that were all the way, on the right, are really they have made their bed with donald trump. They were super religious, anti homosexual. Instead of focusing on what the car republicans care about. And that is what donald trump is focusing on and thats why hes winning. Maybe those are the people bernie can get to. Are you seeing the party step into line behind trump now . Starting to see more people fall into line. There are two types of resistance. You see the attacks that we saw in susana martinez. That tells people, maybe i dont want to get on board with this right now. And also people who are starting to say ill support the nominee. Theyre not never trump, theyre hesitant trump. It doesnt really work as a , though. Hesitant trump. Never hillary is a much better one. Folks, you have been great. Thanks very much. Outfront next, breaking news. Protests erupting outside a trump rally tonight. We will take you back out there, live. Plus, new details in the search for egyptair flight 804. Investigators could be one step closer to finding out what brought the plane down. And aging, overcrowded and in need of serious upgrades. 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That is usually the precursor and there are hundreds and hundreds of officers to move people out and separate the crowd. We have seen pushing, we have seen shoving. We have seen some punches thrown. But so far, it mainly has boiled down to a shouting match. Over here to my right, you can smell it right now. It smells like theyre burning something. Most likely from these protests, possibly a trump flag or a trump cap or Something Like that. Where we are right now, this is the anti trump crowd. They have separated, most of the Trump Supporters from this crowd. And as i said, the bull horn announcement that this is unlawful is assembly. The officers clearly getting ready to stage something. And i would guess the next hour or so here, jim. Back to you. All right, Paul Vercammen in the middle there. We will continue to follow the story of the protests outside the donald trump rally. But also breaking tonight, the search for egyptair flight 804. Officials now hiring a private company to help find the planes crucial black boxes. Investigators in a race against time, just three weeks remain until the batteries in those black boxes run out. Now theyre narrowing the search, focusing on a threemile stretch in the mediterranean, after detecting signals from the planes emergency beacon. David gal low is outfront. He co led the International Effort to locate the remains of air France Flight 447, one of the toughest searches in recent history. Its been eight days. Do you think they can locate the black boxes before the pingers run out of batteries . Hi, jim. It depends on an awful lot of things. I never put a lot of faith in those pingers. You have to have almost perfect conditions, and the conditions here are far from perfect. Especially since its deep water. So you know, i think theyre better off looking for the wreck itself. Scouring the sea floor with s. O. N. A. R. And looking for the main body of the wreckage. Thanks very much, gallo robert gallo for helping us there. Were going to leave this for a moment, because were seeing more breaking thousand out of this protest outside this trump rally. These are live pictures. It appears the police have not been able to keep those two groups of protesters apart. Thats been key. You have Trump Supporters there, you have trump protesters there. And when they get together, we have seen fists fly, we have seen bottles and rocks get thrown. And thats what youre seeing there right now. Im still here with my panel, doug hy, formerly with the rnc. Is this damaging for the Republican Party . I think it is damaging. One, this is an event our nominally is holding. Two, something the entire country is seeing, and theyre seeing always with this, some kind of racial or ethnic divide, something the party has been trying to heal for four years or longer. And have these pictures damage that. Joe, how do you respond to that . The trump rally itself has been over for quite a while and the people left are people only there to incite violence and riots. Its a shame and embarrassment that this is what has devolved. Ive got to be honest. I see mostly not Trump Supporters being ones engaged. And you look back at albuquerque two nights ago. And you saw everything that happened there. Sally . Okay. First of all, we have a great tradition of nonviolent protests to make political points in this country. And i applaud the protesters out there. And hope they are all following in that great tradition. We have seen throughout this election, Trump Supporters engaging in violence. As well as violent rhetoric. But the larger issue here is the violence of trumps policies. You heard Homeland Security officials under george w. Bush, talk about the level of degrading, rounding up of people, of undocumented immigrants, raiding homes, raiding schools. Raiding workplaces. And how ugly it would be to round up and deport 11 million people. Were talkin turnment camps. Words that Bush Administration Administration Officials used. So that is ugly that. Is violent. And these people, thank god, are protesting that as violating our history and our spirit, and, again, i applaud them. Joe, do trumps positions help fuel this kind of anger . It look, a lot of people dont like trumps positions. Thats fine. Thats their right. Their right is also to protest. They can stand outside of a trump rally, they can have signs saying the most hateful things and anything. It doesnt matter. What matters is, taking that next step where you start assaulting police officers, you start assaulting people that are trying to leave a rally and its wrong. And i think the Democratic Candidates have to own it, and they have to say to their supporters to stop doing this. Doug i think theres blame all around. And, again, politically, this is something that republicans dont want to see. We have Serious Problems with hispanics. The language that we have seen, at the time the front runner, now the nominee use, has been terrible for our outreach with hispanics, with women. Pick your minority group. Weve got big problems with them. The only Silver Lining i see on this, when trump staff says theyre not theyre just suggestions. Does this lose you the election . Potentially, yes. If we look at all of the polling we have seen, 85 of hispanics disapprove of trump. 73 of women. How do you win there . How do you win california . Joe, how do you get over that . I mean, since trump won the nomination, we have seen one consistent thing. His number amongst independentses has risen, meaning people are breaking towards him. I think this doesnt do anything to help the anti trump movement. I think a lot of people see this as offensive, and they actually gravitate towards donald trump. Theyre sick of this. Sally, do you buy that . No, i dont. Again, you know, i think it was effective, and we saw a period in time where people were protesting entering these events, and it was the reaction that they provoked. In these sort of violent stoked rhetorical environment of trump rallies where then we saw his protesters respond in violence, and we heard him incite, encourage and say he would pay for the repercussions of that violence. So that rely for people crystallizes the kind of future, the kind of choice at stake in this election. No question. Sally, joe, doug, thanks very much. Outfront next, on one of the busiest travel weekends of the year, our special report on americas outdated and overcrowded airports. We stop arthritis pain, so you dont have to stop. Tylenol® 8hr arthritis pain has two layers of pain relief. The first is fast. The second lasts all day. We give you your day back. What you do with it is up to you. Tylenol®. Working on my feet all day gave min my knees. But now, i step on this machine and get my number which matches my dr. Scholls custom fit orthotic inserts. Now i get immediate relief from my foot pain. My knee pain. Find a machine at drscholls. Com breaking news. We continue to monitor these protests, three arrests there in san diego outside a donald trump rally. Weve seen it get heated, seen punches thrown, and as we said, there have been arrests by police there. Looking forward as well, memorial day this weekend. The nations airports tested as millions of travelers look to get away this holiday weekend, one of the busiest travel days of the year. The tsa is struggling to keep security lines moving, hasnt always worked. How did the problem get so bad so fashion, rene marsh has a story youll only see here. Reporter long lines. We were insecurity for two hours. Reporter frustrated passengers. It has become the standard at airports nationwide. The trouble facing americas airports goes far beyond the security checkpoint. People going through airports built in the 50s, 60s, 70s, the airport structures cant accommodate. Reporter decades ago when the airports were built, there were 62 million travelers. Today that number has grown but capacity has not. More than 750 million passengers are expected to fly this year. President ial candidates on both sides agree the nations airports are not ready for the 21st century. I am tired that we dont have a single airport in our country thats considered in the top 25. You look at some of our airports, it is third wore. Reporter also in need of updating, the faas air Traffic Control system. Doug parker is the ceo of american airlines. Our flight times and what we schedule our times to be are longer than they would be if we had a more Efficient Air Traffic Control system. Reporter airports like laguardia and lax in los angeles rank as some of the countrys worst in the past because of outdated terminals. These terminals are old, kind of falling apart, and we really need to upgrade them, but thats difficult to do when youre constrained for space. Reporter funding is finally coming through in some major cities, but at smaller airports like kansas city which lacks amenities and space for passengers, theyre looking for the cash. We have no new aircraft that nobody can accommodate. Reporter helps from states, local municipality and the local government, but it is a simpler funding process in other parts of the world. In south korea, this Airport Ranks as one of the best in the world. It is heavily funded by the government. Theres entertainment, high end retail and computer stations, showers, spas, an on site hotel, full stage performances, and terminals are massive. Congress regulates a tax at 4. 50 on Passenger Air fare and 9 round trips. That goes to airports for Construction Projects but the fee hasnt been raised to account for inflation in 16 years. It is not a fair fight. Their government recognize the importance of airports, our government says it does but show it by increasing funding for us and looking at us as economic engine for local communities. So rene, which airports are most in need of an update upgrade . Reporter major airports like laguardia, lax are finally starting to invest billions of dollars to renovate but the problem is smaller and mid size airports that arent hubs may not have support of the airline, may not have access to local money. Theyre struggling with the old infrastructure that cant meet capacity not only for people but aircraft as well. A lot of the airports have been pushing to increase that passenger tax but the airlines dont like the idea, jim, because it makes the ticket prices look a lot higher. Congress has the power to increase the tax but at this point they have not. Tough to get through congress, rene marsh at reagan international. Thanks very much. Well be right back. Right throu. Sales departmentthis is nate. 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Were going to continue to monitor the crowd as police move in. Thank you for joining us tonight. I am jim sciutto. Ac 360 starts now. Good evening, thanks for joining us. We begin with breaking news. Clashes outside a trump rally that just ended in san diego. A heavy police presence, they declared it an unlawful gathering, reports of arrests, protesters throwing eggs. Has been a tense scene. Paul vercammen joins us now from san diego. Whats the latest . Whats been going on, watching this for the better part of an hour. Reporter anderson, im right off camera. Were seeing some fights break out, others are trying to make peace here as we see Trump Supporters are on one side of the street and theyre clashing with antitrump demonstrators on the other side. Now as you look off to my right, police with nig
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